I'm getting fed up...

ramshorns have a flat spiraled shell (squint a little - it looks like a ram's horn), pond snails have those rounded oval shells and are speed demons.

why not use the lettuce method, and throw the trapdoor snails back? freeze the rest.
 
only get 1 skunl loach though. they are realy cool .I lost one for 2 weeks & thought he jumped but I caght him peeking out of a shell that had the end knocked off it.Never though to look in there b4.. little sneeker.The whole time he was lost in my refugim he was eating all my small snails! True snailer& you dont need a small school of them to do the job.,Skunk loaches, though friendly are intolerant to their own kind(like red tail black sharks)I use one in a much larger tank with 5 zebra loaches & a few black kuhlis a few kuhlis & a few platinum kuhlis .Never had snails but am curious about yoyo loaches wich do a similar job with differant personality(little bigger)I never know how many kuhlis are actualy in there though.
 
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