Info on Peacock Gudgeon

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I saw some very small (1") but beautiful Peacock Gudgeons at a LFS today. Have any of you had any experience with these fish. I am thinking of purchasing three to put in my 37 gallon community tank.

The tank currently has 17 Neon Tetras, 5 Congo Tetras, 3 Hatchets, 3 SAEs, 2 small Clown Loach, 1 small Polka-Dot Loach and 1 small Bristlenose Pleco
 
yea looking at the stock you have in there now it would be ok just try not to buy fish that could fit him in there mouth cuz if they can fish him in there mouth they will probably eat him lol i wish my lps had those
 
I saw some very small (1") but beautiful Peacock Gudgeons at a LFS today. Have any of you had any experience with these fish. I am thinking of purchasing three to put in my 37 gallon community tank.

The tank currently has 17 Neon Tetras, 5 Congo Tetras, 3 Hatchets, 3 SAEs, 2 small Clown Loach, 1 small Polka-Dot Loach and 1 small Bristlenose Pleco

They grow to 2 and a half inches, though most top out at 2. The males will not get along, but will just chase each other if near each other, no til death stuff. It says that they are completely peaceful on most websites, but one that I got was a bully. They will swim at all levels of the tank, but some prefer to use the bottom, so if any of your bottom dwellers has the potential to be aggressive towards small fish I wouldn't recommend getting them.
 
I saw some very small (1") but beautiful Peacock Gudgeons at a LFS today. Have any of you had any experience with these fish. I am thinking of purchasing three to put in my 37 gallon community tank.

The tank currently has 17 Neon Tetras, 5 Congo Tetras, 3 Hatchets, 3 SAEs, 2 small Clown Loach, 1 small Polka-Dot Loach and 1 small Bristlenose Pleco

All research I have done on Peacock gudgeons indicates that they are very peaceful. I'd say go for it.

I notice you have loaches. They like to be in groups of at least five. They are very shy without friends of their own kind. Polka-dot loach - do you mean a Y. sidthemunki? They are cool little fish, only a couple of inches long, but your clown loaches have a potential size of 18 inches long with a heavy build. You're going to need to upgrade! Prepare for a 6 x 2 x 2 tank! Hope you have a reinforced concrete slab floor!
 
Polka-dot loaches are usually botia kubota otherwise known as the Angelicus Loach or Burmese Border Loach. They get a little too large for your tank size.

Here's a link:

http://www.loaches.com/species-index/botia-kubotai

The clown loaches however will outgrow the tank and need to be in a group of about 6 (at least)...they need a tank at least 180 gallons IMO.

I think if you remove the loaches, the gudgeons will do much better. Loaches can be boisterous.
 
In my display tank at the store (a 240) I have 9 7 years old or older clown loaches. There isn't a single one that's more than 6" SL. You have a long time before you need to worry about upgrading your tank that far. There's always a market for good sized clown loaches. I consistently have people want to buy the fish in the display tank. Maybe I need to become the home for wayward overgrown loaches or something, but honestly, while I know it's in people's best interests, I've NEVER seen someone that had trouble getting rid of a clown loach getting too big for the tank they were willing to house it in. If you can't keep them happy long term, you'll be able to find someone that will. It's not like you bought an oscar or something ;).

Peacock gudgeons are great little fish. The males guard and tend the eggs. The females will get a very rounded gravid looking stomach. The females have black edging on their unpaired fins, while the males are just yellow (once they're mature enough). They are cave spawners and tend to like a piece of pvc to lay eggs on the top of. Hope this helps! Here's a picture of a nice male. Notice the almost nucchal hump to his head?

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Barbie
 
Great Photo Barbie! Did you shoot that?
Thanks for your input everyone.
I am still trying to decide about the Peacock Gudgeons. I did some prior research on line. I inquired because I am mostly interested in peoples 'actual' experiences. They are beautiful, but it seems they are not good in groups of their own kind and I am not interested in raising their young and I definitely do not want to give up my Loach for them.
I did have two Botia Kubotai, Angelicus Loach, Burmese Border Loach, or Polka-dot loach. Sadly, one found its' way out to the floor a few weeks ago. I do plan to buy another when I find one - but they seem to be rather scarce at LFS. Although the loach will get too large for my tank, I think it will be a little while. When they do I will sell them.
 
Polka-dot loaches are usually botia kubota otherwise known as the Angelicus Loach or Burmese Border Loach. They get a little too large for your tank size.

Here's a link:

http://www.loaches.com/species-index/botia-kubotai

The clown loaches however will outgrow the tank and need to be in a group of about 6 (at least)...they need a tank at least 180 gallons IMO.

I think if you remove the loaches, the gudgeons will do much better. Loaches can be boisterous.
Botia kubotai are really slow growers. A 37g is not an issue and is IMO fine. Keeping 5 of them is always a good idea. Yes, they're boisterous but not as boisterous as the others such as the yoyos.;)
 
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