INSANE GLOW IN THE DARK SHRIMP, PLEASE READ!!!

i firmly beleive that this is a true one of a kind living shrimp, swimming around glowing bright, REAL shrimp, also the picture i posted may not show, the digestive track does NOT glow the body and meat of the shrimp does, giving the edges of its shell an unreal look! have to see it in person, sadly i cannot allow anyone in my home


When new species, or variaties, are found they are photograhed and documented with pictures. Find a good camera buddy to help you distribute your find. Otherwise you'll have only the 'trust me' proof.

I would isolate any changes in enviornment, including water parameters and diet. It sounds like this shrimp just began showing this morph? If so what caused the change.
 
ok so what i have found in the last 2 days, is that, the shrimp themselves harbor this ability to glow, not a bacteria built up, shortly after a shrimp expires, the brightness fades... till it appears to be a slightly pale cherry shrimp!

if this was a simple bacteria ALL or most of my shrimp should have this attribute! only 1% or less do!

I feed same things other folks have fed their shrimp with no exceptions, plus if i had, all or most shrimp would appear altered!

these shrimp compared to normal cherry shrimp in daylight, appear to be paler, pinkish orange, and far more active at night!

i have counted now at least 3 breeding sized females! and i have located at least 1 large male, i intend to breed these, and feed them any foods you all deem "normal" and ill keep you all updated!

just keep in mind weirder things have happened in nature, cherry shrimps reproductive cycle is soo fast the odds of a mutation like this was bound to happen, sooner rather then later, for example how many color variations are now found of this shrimp, this is just another outstanding variation, that has nothing to do with outside forces, although if i stand corrected through the next few months, ill inform everyone it was a mistake!

at this point there is too much info pointing in the direction that this IS a true mutation, that the Shrimp themselves are harboring this new and exiting trait..

like i said ill keep everyone updated, and come a point where their ability to reproduce this trait in their young, consistently, ill possibly be shipping these out to the highest bidder, of course after i confirm my own suspicion

....well thanks for the support.. i guess

ill keep you updated..
 
Pictures would be great! Day and night shots. I think all of us here can't wait for that - good luck!
 
the thing is that these shrimp are in a tank with others nearing 500 or more, so the only way i can be certain ive gotten a glow shrimp, is by catching them at night, and photographing them with a bright flash,ill get right on it, im in the process of building up my 210, so im pre-occupied, ill keep you all updated! with pics when possible!
 
no kidding, huh? Weird. See if it breeds true. Then cross breed those cherries with snowballs, and see if you can make those glow also lol. If you do get these things to breed, I see a lot of money in your future....
 
Sorry to pee on your parade

I know you didn't ask for my opinion and no one more then I (well maybe you) would love a world where shrimp start glowing spontaneously but regrettably this is not evolution; it's bacteria.

if this was a simple bacteria ALL or most of my shrimp should have this attribute! only 1% or less do!

That is like saying every disease strikes every organism in the same way, at the same time, and has the same symptoms. What you're not allowing for is Bio diversity - different individuals of the same species will have different immune response capabilities. Some are healthier then others some are weaker - the weaker get sick. And then there is the bacterial life cycle, necessary environment, etc.


Robbyman1406646 said:
just keep in mind weirder things have happened in nature, cherry shrimps reproductive cycle is soo fast the odds of a mutation like this was bound to happen, sooner rather then later ...

So you are proposing that over the millennia that this organism has been around, and the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of captive specimens that it not only has had this random multi-allelic mutation happened once but four times and only in your tank and your tank alone?

Sorry but it's bacteria.

Here is how to culture the bacteria at home:
http://www.splammo.net/bact102/102lumbact.html
Give the link a read it's interesting, especially where they extract the original bacteria from.

Also please do a Google search for "glowing shrimp bacteria" and look at the links and then look at the 'images' - there are a lot of good articles and a few pictures of glowing shrimp.

Having said that it, all is not lost, as it would be interesting for you to track down and see how the bacteria got there and if you can replicate the circumstances. If you can consistently induce glowing in shrimp then that is a product people will buy!

PS - If you do put the "magic Shrimp Glow Powder" on the market I want my cut :)

PPS - the reason the glow fades after the shrimp dies is because there is nothing left for the bacteria to feed on. The very fact that the glow doesn't stop the instant the shrimp dies shows that the shrimp isn't producing the glow.
 
I am also convinced that the glow is caused biologically (via bacteria), not from any interbred mutation or food. I did not want to cause an argument by taking over the thread, so I stated my opinion, and evidence.

The only glowing animals that have been bred, or created, by man have been from gene splicing. They are also closely guarded, to prevent the introduction of such genetic 'monsters' from being released into wild populations. The species of glowing pig is only housed in laboratory conditions. The fish species is sold in Japan, but they are unable of reproduction.

Those I mentioned, and other flora gene splicing instances, I know of no instances of spontaneous luminescence of any species of flora or fauna. Only the introduction of foreign genes (from animals such as jelly fish), have caused self lumination within animals.

Breeding traits, such as glowing, into any animal by selective breeding, when the trait does not exist at all in the wild, is not possible. The gene has to come from somewhere. Scientists can not use the process(es) by which nature (insert your personal theory of evolution) causes mutation, resulting in new species and genetic traits. Animal husbandry is very well documented, and understood. I have been breeding shrimp, and other animals, for many decades. I've studied genetics and animal husbandry, even in college, most of my life. I am not basing my opinion on idle speculation. I don't want to cause an argument, or flame war. I do wish to educate and further the hobby of breeding invertebrates. Please continue to document your findings and post them here.
 
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