Well got my rusty. It's about 2-3''. Right now i't's larger than most of my other fish which are young. I got them to come down $3 to 11.99. It's better than driving 30 miles across town one way in houston to save 5 bucks. I'm trying not to feel guilty for paying that much for a fish. I'm cheap. I'm proud that i got 2 labs for $3.99 from the small assorted tank from petsmart. And yes they are full labs. My krib was about 3.99 and the firemouth was less. I wanted that fish though. It will be the most i'll pay for a cichlid or any fish for a long time,