my convicts had babys i left them in my community tank for food... convicts to common to sell...plus was interesting to watch the female try to defend while the others tried tried to eat them... the male was a bad father he was 4 times the size of the female she did her best but...fish are more interesting than tv...some times...
Is it wrong that I want to see my angel hunt?
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I will be the odd one out here. The smaller fish are your pets too. There is a difference between, for example, giving your snake a feeder mouse, and letting it eat your cat. Predatory pets can be given feeder animals that they will kill and eat in a rapid and fairly humane way.
Mouse, hamster, rat, gerbil, ginnea pig, rabbit, where do you draw the line?
Is it just about what you consider cute?
Beside price, what is the difference between neon tetras, and feeder guppies?
Is it just about what you consider cute?
Beside price, what is the difference between neon tetras, and feeder guppies?
I honestly believe that its extremely important to put fish in situations that they would encounter in the wild...especially hunting and eating live prey. Personally, i consider taking a fish and making it strictly a showpiece is the less "humane" way of keeping them. Why would you want to rid these creatures of their natural behaviors and habits? IMO, thats one of the most interesting parts of keeping fish.
I guess it comes down to what kind of person you are. Some people chose to put fish in a glass box for their own entertainment, some people build a suitable aquarium so that they can bring a piece of nature into their home. The ladder tend to try and encourage the fish to act as naturally as they would in the wild...including hunting and feeding. Why would you set up a tank to be naturalistic in both design and water parameters for a certain type of fish, but discourage their natural behavior?
Were not talking about dogs or cats who have had thousands of years to evolve to our standards. Sure, many fish have had their natural instincts bred out of them, but those arent usually the type of fish we keep. We try to keep these animals as "wild" as possible. As we all know, being "humane" is the last thing on a wild animals mind when its hunting. Actually, being humane is literally impossible for a wild animal because the very definition of the word requires that the animal would have to understand humanistic values...which is ridiculous.
Were not talking about dogs or cats who have had thousands of years to evolve to our standards. Sure, many fish have had their natural instincts bred out of them, but those arent usually the type of fish we keep. We try to keep these animals as "wild" as possible. As we all know, being "humane" is the last thing on a wild animals mind when its hunting. Actually, being humane is literally impossible for a wild animal because the very definition of the word requires that the animal would have to understand humanistic values...which is ridiculous.
I ones had platies and a betta in the same tank, and when my platy gave birth, the betta just hunted the little babies. I thought it was like survivial of the fittest game I guess. I kinda felt bad afterwards.
YES! You both said that so well. They are simply acting on their natural instincts. It's only when we try to make it unnatural that it goes cruel or 'inhumane' because we are the ones making it so. When we put a fish's natural prey into a tank for the specific reason to be eaten, that's just nature. We don't think it's cruel to watch a lion take down a gazelle, so how would it become cruel to give an angelfish a neon tetra (its natural prey).
I am glad this thread has some discussion going on, I admit I was a little worried that people would post things along the lines of "sicko" etc. But, it is nice to see I am not alone, and also to see others viewpoint.
For what it's worth, I doubt my angel will ever actually eat anything that is in the tank with him (may be different if I were to use some feeders). But the most he does is a little chase out from behind a plant, and nothing more. I am sure if he really tried he could have probably caught a large number of the tetra's in the tank.
For what it's worth, I doubt my angel will ever actually eat anything that is in the tank with him (may be different if I were to use some feeders). But the most he does is a little chase out from behind a plant, and nothing more. I am sure if he really tried he could have probably caught a large number of the tetra's in the tank.
