Is it wrong to....

actually No they didn't purchase it for $52

remember you are dealing with retail for retail not cost. they actually by trading fish made more money that they would for the hardware.the filters have a low turn over and the fixed cost is higher than the soft items like livestock.

If the guy returns it and they give him cold hard cash, then they have just purchased that item for $52 when they would have normally purchased it for $25. Inventory cost has increased. Increased inventory cost yields less profit. If dude keeps cash, petsmart loses profit. Dude has stolen from petsmart.

Even if they give him in store credit, petsmart loses less money. They still lose money. Dude has stolen from petsmart. Sure, he's stolen less profit, but he's still stolen.

they trade retail for retail but remember they are dealing with costs not retail.

Again, if dude keeps cash, inventory cost increases. Less profit. Theft.


when I worked retail we would take in an itme like this and gladly trade retail for retail on an item that has a higher retail margin as we would make more money on that item.
This only works if dude spends the money at your store.

don't forget petsmart will sell that time that they normally stock. so they don't lose.
Again, now an item they "purchased" for $52 takes up shelf space. Shelf space has a cost. When they sell that item that they paid $52 they not only don't make profit, but they actually lose money because they item took up shelf space for 1 minute, 1 day, 1 week, any time, they still lost money to do inventory cost.

As I understand it, the dude is looking for a refund. Now, maybe he will spend the money there, but a refund is differnt than an exchange.

You are making a good point, ,but... If they "refund" the money for you, they are "purchasing" the product. It was not originally in their inventory, therefore it was "purchased" into inventory. And instead of "purchasing" it from a supplier, they are purchasing it from this guy's cousin with a substantially larger markup. So, that piece of inventory has a higher cost associated with it. That exact piece of inventory costs $52, versus the same one next to it that costs $25. When someone purchases the "$52" product, petsmart is now not making the $27 they would have made had that person purchased the $25 product.


So, perhaps they "lose" less profit by the dude stealing fish instead of stealing a filter, but the dude is still stealing and they are still losing money, not just profit. Their operating expense goes up.
 
Simply, yes. After shipping, gas, time and effort, I doubt he'll find much of a profit from it. He could put in less work at McDonalds and make the same $21. Not to mention the Karma loss. No offense, but I have faith that something will go wrong for him in or because of this endeavor.

I agree


Not to mention if they do have a way to find out he is trying to scam them he could end up getting charged with fraud, petty theft and whatever other charges they decide to bring up.

Its not worth going to jail or getting probation over IMO.
 
Speaking as a person, its stealing and shouldn't be done.
Speaking as a manager at a pet store, it pisses me off when people do this. We try to be nice and allow people to return items even when they have lost receipts to help the customer and so that people will continue shopping at the store. If people continue to scam these business guess what will happen. Prices will go up, and return policies will get tighter. I wouldn't be surprised if years from now stores such as Petsmart or Petco develop return policies where its no receipt no return period. Something like this is taking advantage of a company actually trying to be nice to their customers instead of being @$$'s about return policies.
Speaking as a manager in charge of pets, today customers doing returns such as this took almost 3 hours (yes I time it, thats how angry it gets me) away from me being able to personally take care of my animals. Next time people want to bash fish stores because the tanks are dirty or the shelves aren't stocked, think about how much time we spend helping customers to price match or helping them with bogus returns.
 
.... I wouldn't be surprised if years from now stores such as Petsmart or Petco develop return policies where its no receipt no return period. .......

Jersey allows 0 for no receipt, period
 
Lying, cheating, deception, and stealing all make me ill which is only relevant if you believe in life after death--otherwise it is purely survival of the fittest. Obviously I'm OK with breaking some rules though since we're not supposed to discuss religion on this forum.
 
The point is, though, that now petsmart has just "purchased" that same item for $52 dollars instead of, say, $25. If they sell it(which they do/will) for $52, they make no money. Even if the guy does spend the money at petsmart, he is now using that stolen money to purchase fish. In the end, petsmart still has $11 stolen from them, whether it's in the form of cash as a return, or fish it's still a quantifiable amount.

I do believe kharma will be on the side of the intent. If it was a gift, and the person did not have a reciept or clue as to where it came from, that's a different story and petsmart is doing a nice thing by letting them return the item there. This guy is intending to steal. He's aware of it, he's going to a lot of effort to accomplish it. I'm not concerned because it will come back to him.


In college I was a server. One day at Cracker Barrell I forgot to tip the guy. The tip would have only been $6, but I forgot(I think their system of paying at the front contributes to this problem). I got home, realized I forgot, and immediately I knew it would come back to me. Sure enough, that night as I was waiting tables, I was stiffed on the tip on a $200 check. At first I was mad, then I knew it was kharma coming back at me.

I always remember to tip at Cracker Barrell now.
Youre basing realism on beliefs and speculation,basing outcomes on "karma"is like basing outcome on religeous beliefs,or believing in ghosts.I'll take my chances with Darwins way of thought.Orbs and higher powers don't move I or them.Acts of"god" are results of closed weather systems.Closed meaning we are in an Ozone complex.
 
Youre basing realism on beliefs and speculation,basing outcomes on "karma"is like basing outcome on religeous beliefs,or believing in ghosts.I'll take my chances with Darwins way of thought.Orbs and higher powers don't move I or them.Acts of"god" are results of closed weather systems.Closed meaning we are in an Ozone complex.

What about the multiple valid points made since the post you chose to quote? Quit speaking jibberish and CHANGE YOUR FONT.
 
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I'm not touching the karma discussion again, no matter how sorely I am tempted.
 
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