It's always someone elses fault ?

The ultimate responsibility for your child lies with you in my opinion. If my children are not being accommodated at school properly, then it's my responsibility to see to it that they are or to move them to a more appropriate situation, whether it's another school or into a homeschooling situation.

Addressing a problem is necessary but if the system does not make the needed corrections (and QUICKLY!), rather than continue to send my kid into a bullying situation, I'd remove my child. It isn't about the fact that the school is supposed to host a comfortable environment for everyone....it's about the fact of whether the school IS creating that situation.....and if they are not, I'm not going to continue to put my child in the situation. It's not about what is right or wrong when it comes to my kid, it's about what IS....and the ultimate responsibility for my child lies with me.

That's my take on it.

I also have no details of this case so cant' speak to it specifically. My comments above are generic, not specific to this situation.
 
i believe this story went that they were at the school many times and officials did nothing,.. it was a while ago but i think this was them ,..
 
If you have children then you should be aware of the responsibilities of trying to raise a child in a safe environment whether at home or away. That means interacting and TALKING as well as LISTENING. If the parents did address the situation with the school and still nothing changed then the parents need to shoulder some responsibility for not doing more. Doing more means becoming involved and taking action.

I have been through this myself where one of the kids was being singled out because she refused to hang with the kids that did drugs. The school only talked and made empty promises. My wife and I became involved! We then sent her to a another school at the school boards expense. It was without a doubt the right move.
 
The parents may have been involved, but they still do not have any control of what goes on in school. Who's to say that the bullies did not stop despite the warnings? i have seen it happen in my school; a kid goes to the administration, they talk to the bully, and the situation is alleviated for a while, but then gets worse after a short time. Sure, the parents probably should have been more involved with their teen and tried to better prevent the bullying, but it is the school's responsibility to know that every single student is safe during school hours and during school-related activities.
 
Everyone gets bullied in high school. Obviously, not everyone kills themselves. Honestly, if someone decided to commit suicide, even if incessant bullying is the impetus, it's not the underlying cause. This kid probably had myriad issues aside from being teased in school, and if the parents didn't pick up on it, didn't talk to their kid about it, or didn't choose to seek psychiatric help for their son, then they can't really blame the school.
 
IceH2O said:
We don't know the whole story.

How do you know the parents did nothing? They might have gone to the school principal 10 times for all we know.

I expect my childrens school to do whatever it takes to protect my children be it from bullies or gun toting thugs.

That school is lucky the kid only committed suicide. He could have pulled a Columbine.

Why should the parents need to move the kid? If these kids are bullying this kid they are bullying other kids. School is for learning and officials should keep it that way with any means necessary.
Maybe if officials weren't so handcuffed and needing to worry about lawsuits from kids suspended or expelled for bullying they would be more proactive in keeping the student body safe.


Wait for a teacher to chime in. Bet they side with the family and tell us they are handcuffed in dealing with these trouble makers.
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exactly, we do not know the circumstances at all. I am one who feels that there are way too many frivolous lawsuits filed in the USA but unless we are members of that jury we have no basis for judgement.... yet.
 
IceH2O said:
Wait for a teacher to chime in. Bet they side with the family and tell us they are handcuffed in dealing with these trouble makers.
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My cousin and sister-in-law are both teachers and they both complain about the same things: parents that won't get involved, parents that are in denial about their kids, laws that hold them responsible yet give them nothing to work with, and uncaring superiors.

I'm glad that I ain't in school these days! It's gotta suck!
 
Inka4040 said:
Everyone gets bullied in high school. Obviously, not everyone kills themselves. Honestly, if someone decided to commit suicide, even if incessant bullying is the impetus, it's not the underlying cause. This kid probably had myriad issues aside from being teased in school, and if the parents didn't pick up on it, didn't talk to their kid about it, or didn't choose to seek psychiatric help for their son, then they can't really blame the school.
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I couldn't have said it better :werd:

I am sure that most of us have had bad situations during our life, some more than others because we are older . Strong people make it , the weak don't .
When I was 15 there was this guy in town that surfaced in a few places 4 or 5 times here and there and every time he made a threatening jesture. Finally one night my friend and I were walking in front of the high school gym and this car drives by and yells something at us and sure enough it was that guy. Now I don't even know who this guy is but he has something out for me . My friend yells back to the car and sure enough they pulls over , here comes the guy , walks right up to me , pushes me on my chest, I stumble back with my head turning towards my back, I gain my composure while turning back toward him and hit him with all I had right in the face. We struggled for a while and broke it up shortly after. I later found out he was a varsity football player and me back then was a 120 pound weakling. The girls that were in his class said he had a huge knot on his head from me and they were glad I stood up to him.
THE GUY NEVER MESSED WITH ME AGAIN
There were 2 or 3 other situations where guys bullied me and they regretted it afterward:werd:. I never started fights but I think I took care of myself when the situations arouse.

I also was tramatized when my wife left me and took our daughter away from me .

OH , AND I DIDN'T SHOOT MYSELF :headbang2:
 
this is why I think kids should take martial arts that are effective like jiu jitsu or muay thai or something. It will give them confidence and if they do it long enough the bulliers are going to get their *** kicked.
 
too easy to kill or seriously maim someone with jiu jitsu. muay thai is all about who can take the most punishment. plus, a thai clench will do some serious damage. if kids were to learn these skills, there would be more violence and overdone retalliations.



debaric said:
this is why I think kids should take martial arts that are effective like jiu jitsu or muay thai or something. It will give them confidence and if they do it long enough the bulliers are going to get their *** kicked.
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