Jack Oranda--ick?

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I picked up my oranda saturday evening. "He" is about the size of my thumb.

I transferred a sponge and some bio-stars from the Rena on my 75 to the new filter on the goldfish tank, so I am hoping to bypass the cycling process.

The fish looks great against the blue/green tile mosaic. I was a little worried he'd get lost against the mosaic until he got some size, but with the water rippling and lighting and a few water wonders plants it looks terrific and he pops right out against the background.

Can't wait to get some pictures.

Question:I've seen him flash a couple times, but wasn't sure if it was the current pushing him into the plants or maybe ick. I initially had the canister outlet in the jet form, but that was much too strong, so I switched to the spray bar and haven't seen him flash again. But to be safe just in case: Do goldfish get ick? Can I use salt treatment for it?

Ellen
 
Goldfish can get ick, but in a new goldfish, it is at least as likely to be flukes. Some fancy goldfish keepers recomend that all new fish get treated with Prazi-Pro.
 
> Some fancy goldfish keepers recomend that all new fish get treated with >Prazi-Pro.

thanks, I'll look for that tonight.

Ellen
 
whoops. I just did a search for Prazi-pro at the petsmart website to get a good price and they don't have it listed.

That's the only fish store in town. Is there another name/brand I can use? The next closest is 80 miles away and I won't be able to get there until the weekend at the soonest.


Ellen
 
You should be able to see ich if it has that, and a little salt and heat should do the trick.

Praziquantel seems to be a gentle treatment. It's typically a lot less harsh than ich meds, so it's a better place to start. It's thought by some that all new goldies come with some internal parasites and/or flukes, so they call for all to be treated. It's supposed to be safe for the bio-filter, but keep an eye out. Some people get some nitrite spikes in newly cycled tanks.
 
thanks for the link. I have ordered the Prazi and a whole bunch of food :eek:
Got an email from them within minutes of placing the order that it had already shipped. That's service.

I haven't seen any more signs of flashing, so I'll watch more before adding salt for ick, but will use the Prazi as you recommended for flukes.

I bought pro gold food and thought about the algae wafers, but a pound was the smallest size and seemed a bit much for one thumbsized goldfish. So instead I ordered the tropical three pack for my community tank. Sounds like the spirulina wafer is the same as goldfish wafer, but smaller. When Jack gets some size I can get the larger wafers for him.

I gave him a pea yesterday. I didn't realize how small he was until I put the whole chopped up pea in the tank and saw how much there was. I fished half of it out again before he could get to it.

Despite the filter media transfer I had a .25 ammonia reading this morning. I got up early just in case and had time for a water change before I left for work.

I have 20 young apple trees and I dump 3 gallons at a time on them in turn. They appreciate the fishy water, so many water changes will be good for my orchard.

Ellen
 
Mine love peas, too.

I have grass growing in the high traffic areas of my yard, again, that the kids trampled down. It gets fish water, three gallons at a time as well. I have three tanks and use the bucket and manual gravel vac method.

The stuff is pricey from that site, but you'll be happy with the results. I treated mine for flukes. The fish did very well, but I'd continue to keep a close eye on water parameters. Long established tanks are fine with it, but I got some nitrites in mine while I was treating. The pro-gold is great for healthy looking goldies and good growth rate. The medi-gold saved a rescue fish I got with a bad case of mouth rot. I've wasted more in products that don't work. At least those products are worth it, and the service and ship time is very good.
 
sheesh! I knew in theory that goldfish put out a prodigious amount of waste. Seeing it in reality is another matter.

I set up the 20 gallon tank last week, put my single small redcap in on saturday evening and media from an established filter on sunday morning-and changed nine gallons. I waited because I wanted some ammonia to feed the biofilter, seems I needn't have waited, there was plenty right away.

Tuesday morning I had a reading of .25 ammonia. Did a 6 gallon water change, tuesday night, still 0. Wednesday morning, .25-6 gallon water change, wednesday evening .5-11 gallon change. This morning back to .25-9 gallon change.

I'm testing the water three times a day-I'm going to need more kits and more dechlorinator soon at this rate.

I wonder what readings I would have if I hadn't put in the aged filter media? At least the garden is benefitting from all this water changing.

And to think people (including myself as an ignorant child) put a goldfish in a one gallon bowl and change the water once a week, if that. Poor fish!

Ellen
 
You just have to do it, especially while the tank cycles. Mine is cycled now, but I still change a little water almost every day.

The fancies are delicate. Tropicals are a breeze to keep compared to goldfish.
 
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