k2so4 and gda

timwag2001

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i've had a 10 gallon up and running for about 5 months now. i have some rcs in there and for plants some ambulia and hygro. i wasnt checking any nutrient levels at all but noticed signs of K deficiency in my hygro so i dosed 2 grams of k2so4 to get it up to around 20ppm. 24 hours later i had gda so bad i couldnt see in the tank. now for 5 months i had absolutely no signs of algae whatsoever. i dose daily with excel. light is 2 cfl energy saver bulbs (it says 20w bulb equals a regular 75w bulb so i dont know which number to go by)

anyone have an explanation?
 
By gda I assume you mean green water. After one difficult bout with it there I now have signs of a reoccurence, which I now attribute to suddenly (within 48 hrs) increasing my phosphate level from 0.5 to 1.0. Regardless of whether or not 1.0 phosphates is excessive or not, perhaps I could have avoided green water symptoms if I had allowed much more time for a doubling of the P concentration. Based in my experience, I would suspect that you built up the K concentration way too quickly. Hope this helps.
 
gda is green dust algae. the stuff that builds up on the glass.
from what i understand, green water is usually caused by an ammonia spike. i dont think that 1ppm of P is too much at all. i keep mine above 2 to keep green spot algae away.
but maybe you're right. too much too quick.
 
GDA and green water are not exactly the same...but you do mean GDA and not GSA, etc. correct?

GDA is algae in the zoospore stage. As far as I know (I have read up a lot on it) no one has found a specific cause or causes. Its best to let it run its course while still doing normal maintenance and such to your tank.

Here's what Tom Barr says...

While I know this method worked for myself and quite a few other folks, it's always interesting to see if it works for other folks.

My issue is not so much how to get rid of it.
Rather, how to induce it in the first place.
Unlike most aquarium, I do not know how to do that with GDA.

I can inoculate a tank and sometimes get an infestation, but not always.

By doing this, we can learn a lot more about an alga, and stop it before it can grow in our tanks. An ounce of Prevention is worth far more than a pound of Cure.

The main issue is that folks allow the GDA to start to slough off(you can see it do this). It goes into another spore stage and you likely will never see it again.

If you keep wiping, it never makes it to this stages and keeps growing vegetatively rather than going to the next sexual cycle.

This phase in it's life cycle is particularly tough, some on the other hand, are not and do not bother us at all.

The big problem with this method: takes awhile and the tank looks bad you do the final wipe. The other method is simply keep wiping the glass and running a micron filter(say a HOT magnum with a pleated cartiage, a diatom, or other similar filters with lots of current)

If you leave the algae alone for 2-3 weeks, then scrub good, add Excel, do a 60-80% water change, then run the filter right after, then scrub again and couple of more times, and/or do water changes, this should gibve you about a 90-100% effective cure rate.

Lot of work, but the plants like water changes and adding ferts back also.
So you get nice plant health as well and the water is really clear.

Regards,
Tom Barr
 
new plants, new ferts... yay!

i'd say jpappy summed up your answer quite well... i just wanted to comment on your new additions.
 
yeah. it's green dust algae that formed on the glass of an aquarium that has been set up for about 5 months with no signs of algae. i dosed k2so4 and my aquarium was covered by it within 24 hours
 
I find that quite interesting because somewhere along the line I had gotten the idea that an excess amount of K would not cause algae, but now I guess not. It does make sense that an overabundance of anything is a potential problem.
 
yeah. it's green dust algae that formed on the glass of an aquarium that has been set up for about 5 months with no signs of algae. i dosed k2so4 and my aquarium was covered by it within 24 hours

The only thing is I added nothing (literally, it was an unplanted tank) and GDA exploded in my tank. Adding the potassium might be part of the issue, but its definitely not the underlying factor.
 
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