Not at all. I wasn't saying that you have reading problems, but now I am. That, or you totally lack any mind whatsoever. You sir, are a complete and total idiot. You did bash the forum, several times, but I'm sure that someone with your low intelligence level couldn't recogonise that. And you don't need me here, that's correct. But no one within a reasonable frame of mind is going to put up with idiotic comments based on second-hand information. You sir, go to very low levels of insults, and I will have no part of it. I didn't insult your capability of keeping fish at all. But you did mine. You are nothing but a mindless chimp. Now, I suggest you stop your pompass spreading of incorrect information around the web, you distasteful waste of board space. They don't need you anywhere on the web, either, I hope that I never come across you again. So it's alright to keep a 10" discus in a 20 gallon but not an 8" African brown knife? Discus are more active than they are, and produce more waste... it is YOU that is doing the self contradiction, not me. I certainly hope that you can find a brain to sick in your big head before you make any more posts about fish that you obviously know nothing about! And don't bother to reply, I'm not going to view this topic again as I'm sure that this post will set you off, boo-hoo. I hope that anyone that reads this topic in the future is smart enough to check their info and think for them selves instead of walking blindly down your path of idiocy!NatakuTseng said:I didn't say that discus can ever get to 12" at all, they don't the largest are 10" as I stated, what I did say was that they GENERALLY can get to 8". Yes they can be kept in a 20 gal as adults, but ONLY for breeding purposes. You sir are an arrogant jerk. Just because I do not have a tank larger than a 75 right does not mean I know nothing about large tanks. If you know nothing about discus then you have no right saying that they can get to 12". I do know things about knifefish, and I never said anywhere that you should keep them as you do discus. Now who were you saying had a problem reading? You keep assuming that I don't have expirience, but who are you to say that I don't? You have no right attacking me and what I have done. Sure I haven't done everything, but I've done a lot more than you assume I have. I am not the typical LFS employee either, notice I said that I did work there, I don't anymore because I couldn't stand it. Oh but wait, if I am a typical LFS employee then must be I could not have bred discus, rams, farlowella, scarlet badis....etc, but I don't have the expirience so excuse me about that. Knifefish simply are not my cup of tea, so why would I care how big ones that I have seen are. Bashing your forum, no, Just why would I want to go there when its moderated by someone like you? Arrogance abound. You can not differenciate between size fish can attain in the wild and in the tank, why because simply if given proper care they will get to their fullest potential size in an aquarium. Just because they are in an aquarium doesn't mean they limit their size, no fish does that, not even your little buddies the browns. Large tanks....they are just simply much much much easier to maintain and keep a healthy environment than smaller tanks. When something goes wrong you have much more time to react, if you even have to do anything. Oh but wait, that makes the point that larger tanks are better for fish regaurdless of their max potential size.....kinda contradicts what your saying huh? Just like a lot of other things. So please go crawl back to your forum where you can play god and belittle everyone using abhorent language, insults, and personal attacks because we don't need it or you here.
Hope you enjoyed your stayStick to your little serptentine buddies that don't need big tanks though (well at least according to you) .
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And one more thing, I know very well that discus can reach 12". I know nothing of keeping them, but I am quite farmiliar with the species... which, any intelligent person would have noted by reading my post. Have a great night!
Lepisosteus said:
Well obviously since the first reply in this thread I'm not considering a knife fish anymore. But this guy doesn't do the whole, keeping brackish fish in freshwater thing, and he doesn't have a brackish tank set up so he won't order me any gobies (I am thinking bumblebee). And they are hard to find elsewhere, so I don't know when I will get any gobies.
I do care a lot about my fish, which is why I immediately moved my puffer from a 10 to 25 gallon upon suggestion, and why I am slowly and painstakingly going Brackish with him. I've read that I could keep several in my tank, but just because I COULD I know doesn't mean I SHOULD.
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Yes a 90g for an 8" fish. You say that all your fish are thriving, what proof do you have? That they are not all dead? This goes back to the age old question of what you can do and what you should do. As for the comment about captive fish not attaining wild size, Why do you think that is so, because they are not being provided the appropriate enviroment to allow them to attain their full size. If you did provide an appropriate enviroment for your knives you may be surprised as to how big they could get.
Lepisosteus said:
Just because people dont have huge tanks dose not make them not knowledgable in the area of fish keeping. I have had several 1000g+ tanks in my fish keeping career plus the tanks that I have now and I tell you I will not put an 8" knife in a 25g, for that matter I would not put a 6" fish in a 25g. You really should stop assuming that other people are not knowledgable, or should I say, less knowledgable than you. My largest tank is 1850g , but does that make me more knowledgable you , who knows ?All I know is that I am part of this forum to help people.
Discus do not reach 12" period. Glad to see that you can make your self feel like more of a man by making worse and worse insults on people. I didn't bash your forum at all, all I said was I wouldn't go there because of you and that you should go crawl back to it. You keep saying my insults were bad? Well news for you, you have 20 times more them and they are 10 times as bad as what I have said about you. Of course it seems that what you mean by insults is that I'm saying your wrong and providing contrary information to what you think is fact. You said yourself you don't know discus, but now you will sit right there and say for a fact that they can get to 12", hmmm sounds like your a real reputable person to me. Please do continue with the insults and name calling, I would like nothing more than to see you banned from this board.
Tell Jack Wattley that keeping a breeding pair of discus in a 20gal is bad.....cause thats what he uses, but then again he's just the father of discus keeping in the USA. I keep my breeding pairs in 29s, and they get daily 50-75% water changes, thats the difference. Though you don't know anything about discus you said it yourself so where is your place saying you do all of a sudden now?
Second hand expirience huh, no actually first go back and read my posts, I've cared for knives before. Such toughies too....just a tad harder than convicts. And just so everyone can see what a jerk you are, I will quote all of your insults to me at the end of this, all from your last post... have a great day Lep.
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Well, that was just from one post. Certainly hope he sticks to his guns about not viewing this thread again, though he probably won't. And if some of the things that he has said regaurding me isn't enough to get one of the mods invovled, then I know they have somethin against me lol. j/k guys/gals. Regaurding the last insult, I think that people would trust me more than him....so welcome to my path of idiocy! Isn't it pretty?
Tell Jack Wattley that keeping a breeding pair of discus in a 20gal is bad.....cause thats what he uses, but then again he's just the father of discus keeping in the USA. I keep my breeding pairs in 29s, and they get daily 50-75% water changes, thats the difference. Though you don't know anything about discus you said it yourself so where is your place saying you do all of a sudden now?
Second hand expirience huh, no actually first go back and read my posts, I've cared for knives before. Such toughies too....just a tad harder than convicts. And just so everyone can see what a jerk you are, I will quote all of your insults to me at the end of this, all from your last post... have a great day Lep.
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Well, that was just from one post. Certainly hope he sticks to his guns about not viewing this thread again, though he probably won't. And if some of the things that he has said regaurding me isn't enough to get one of the mods invovled, then I know they have somethin against me lol. j/k guys/gals. Regaurding the last insult, I think that people would trust me more than him....so welcome to my path of idiocy! Isn't it pretty?
Don't want to fuel the fire but I'm confused. The Black ghost Knifefish is a very desirable fish to me. I've seen it listed for 50 gallon tanks, 48" tank too but you guys & the species profile on this site(90gal) don't seem to agree. I have a 65 gallon tank. If I were to get a Black Ghost Knifefish, about how long would I have before I need to upgade to a larger tank?
