Leeches in my tank. help!

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29 gallon tank with three pieces of wood bought at a few LFS' (they are from a LONG time ago and have been in my other tanks without contamination), cycled gravel one layer thick, some java ferns on the wood, and two big bunches of hornwort (different types) that went crazy. I actually suspect the newer bunch came with the leeches, because it was the last thing I introduced to the tank besides fish, and all the fish are fine (sorta).

Fish in the tank: king tiger pleco and two sterbai corycats. I had a dwarf speckled corycat and julii but they have both disappeared over the last three months.

Now, I heard that leeches often infest in large numbers when there is overfeeding. I am extremely wary of overfeeding, and I definitely underfeed instead and my tanks are all somewhat in a "survival of the fittest" situation. This helps with my other tank which is overstocked a little bit. The really weird thing is that we just noticed today, after a sighting about 3 weeks ago, that our tank is absolutely completely infested with leeches. I would say that we have a leech for every piece of gravel in the tank. However, there are none on the fish whatsoever, although I'm not sure that my snails are safe from them.

I have red snails that I ordered from the internet, I've had forever, and they are in my other tanks so the leeches couldn't have come from them either.

I want to kill the leeches. They freak me out, they are ALL OVER, and I just worry that they'll eat my fish at any sign of sickness (which may be very well why the last two fish disappeared, I had always blamed it on the pleco not getting enough protein).

The leeches are a light brown/medium brown color, somewhat see-through. Their mouths are the skinniest part and act as the front foot, while the 'anchor' is much larger and moves last. They are somewhat flat in my opinion although my boyfriend disagrees with me. The mature one he saw actually had 5 spikes on its back that were flexible. These little guys are all under an inch and maybe under half an inch and they are not free-floating. When I saw them, they were coming out to feast on the fish food we'd put in there.

The 'sighting' I mentioned was a few weeks ago, when I noticed that we'd forgotten to turn the filter back on after the water change, and I noticed tons of 'roots' sticking up between the pieces of gravel. They were extremely pale and see-through and were not moving whatsoever. I turned the filter on and went to tell my boyfriend about the 'roots', but they had all disappeared. I didn't think anything of it, I really should have.

Now, what we are thinking about doing is transporting the fish to a 5 gallon decontamination tank and then either treating the tank with a copper solution or a salt solution, or starving them out. But I have tons of snails and the snails in that tank are doing tons better than my other tanks, and I don't even think picking them out would be possible, let alone helpful in case any are infested. I'd prefer not to do that

I just want to know, does anyone know if these leeches can do the whole 'internal parasite' or do they just grab onto the outside? Should I treat my fish or just visually check them? Will treating the tank kill my snails?

Lastly, does anyone think that getting a few puffers will ease the problem, or with dwarf puffers attack my snails first, and the leeches later? Will eating the leeches hurt the puffers? (This is the one we'd prefer, dwarf puffers are some of our favorites).

What do you think?
 
I checked the parameters.

Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10-15
pH 7.2

I'm going to do water changes tomorrow to help with the nitrates. I had heard that anything under 20 is still okay.
 
I don't know too much about this, but just thinking about it gives me the "heebie-jeebies" :o

I did a quick search and came up with these two sites. The first one gives a chemical treatment cure, and the second is just kind of FYI. I did think it was interesting, the second site says that leeches are known to eat snails. I learned somehting new today.

http://animal-world.com/encyclo/fresh/information/Diseases.htm#Leeches

http://www.fishbc.com/adventure/angling/protalk/rowley/leeches/leeches.phtml

Good Luck!
 
After careful watch, they are not attacking the fish whatsoever, even though my fish stay on the bottom and the leeches can reach them. These leeches are incredibly mobile. I watched several move around my snails without actually attaching to them, and they seem more attracted to the fish food I placed in the tank than anything living thats in the tank.

I've heard though that leeches will only attach to unhealthy or damaged fish, so I'm just thinking that all the snails and fish I have in there are just super-healthy. But you'd think with the massive number of leeches that they'd attack even a healthy specimen!
 
thanks for the sites, they were helpful. What do you guys thinking about the 'natural' solution by adding puffers?
 
I tried to take a picture but my camera just won't focus on close-ups and these guys are really really tiny. Some can stretch out to an inch, but they are so thin when they do that the camera doesn't see them.

I actually caught and bagged a few, so I'm going to see what my LFS says, especially since I'm pretty sure he gave them to me.
 
Wow...sounds creepy. I have kept fish for a number of years and have never seen something like that. Here is what I would do:

Use a diatom filter, attach a gravelvaccum to the intake line and vaccum your tank. The diatomacious will definitley trap all those suckers.

If you are unfamiliar with that type of filter, do a search on Google on Vortex Diatom Filter. PetSmart has good prices but they don't seem to keep them in the stores, you have to order online.

I use this filter, with a gravelvaccum attached about every two to three weeks. First I vaccum the gravel, then un-attach the gravelvac and just let the filter run a day or so. The filter 'polishes' the water. Really, really nice results. I bought the XL model because I have 100, 60, and 55 gal tanks. The filter is a pain to learn to use but I think it is worth it. I have used in both on fresh and salt water tanks.


http://www.petsmart.com/global/sear...goo&cm_cat=adwords&cm_pla=unknown&cm_ite=home
 
I've heard of the diatom filter. Would the leeches actually die once sucked into the filter, or could they live through that? These guys are actually very strong from what I've seen.
 
So two days ago I went into my LFS that sold me the hornwort that was the leech carrier. The owner had never seen these leeches before but one of his workers confessed to seeing them all the time. They had three recommendations for me

1) Use a trap with some less-oily meat. Attach it to a piece of glass or rock and then take it out every few hours and replace with a new one.

2) Buy some puffers.

3) Use some copper medication.

I was hesitant to buy puffers or use the copper because I have snails I actually want to keep, and the puffers and the copper would probably kill them. So I tried the 'trap' idea. I stuck a piece of bologna in a shotglass and put it at the bottom.

Within minutes, I saw the leeches come out from under the gravel and 'sniff' around the tank. But several hours later, none of them had actually happened upon the bologna and it didn't seem like they were even looking anymore. I only ended up attracting a snail.

So, I'm hoping it was my choice of meat. I read from another site that liver may be the best, so I might go buy some and try it with that.
 
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