Letter writing to PetsMart

jodimartin2003 said:
It is part of good customer service. Any place that has customer service high on their agenda will listen to what their customers are telling them. I hear what you are saying though. Will the letters make a difference? Maybe, but probably not. Maybe we should start picketing in front of the individual stores :laugh:

Customer service is a good point. With the cash registers being computerized and sending daily sales figures to corporate, Petsmart knows exactly how many people shop for fish at each store. For example If they sell 100 fish items a day and get 10 complaints that's a 90% customer satisfaction rate. How likely would it be that they take these 10 complaints seriously? Now if they sold 100 items and had 70 complaints they may look into it.
 
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I work at a Toyota dealership and I can tell you we strive for much more than a 90% satisfaction rate. Every complaint we receive is taken seriously. I work very closely with our customer relations manager and I know if we got 10 complaints of the same error for every 100 customers....that would put somebodys arse in gear to get something changed. However, we are a car dealership and obviously one unhappy customer could potentially cost us a lot more money than an unhappy petsmart customer would cost them.
 
You make valid points, Tai....but at the same time those valid points are also somewhat defeatist if you really think about it. Not to sound corny or be a Lisa Simpson about things but revolutions begin with just a few people who see an issue and decide it's worth taking up a campaign aimed at fixing it. We can't just sit and do nothing.

And not buying fish from them will do nothing to stop all of the other people who do.

The thing about the changing of the information cards - well, that employee who will be made to do that is already on the clock anyway. I have watched them doing the routine maintenance, changing things, putting sale prices up, etc all the while bagging fish and who knows what else. (You know how those jobs milk every last second of your abilities and make you multitask like crazy.) So it really wouldn't cost them too much money. Besides, they are constantly sending out new cards to replace the ones that get wet and damaged anyway. The costs are pretty nill when you think about it. For a huge corporation it really isn't much money...not a lot more than a sale sign when something is on special that week.

Let's take the same economics and put it in the opposite direction - Certainly the lab costs like a dollar...but if it gets exchanged three times, the profit has already dropped from nine to six dollars. Times that by say, four hundred stores where that happens this month - that's a loss of $1200 in what should have been profits. All it would have taken is one small information card saying that the fish must be kept in at least a 40g aquarium with only other semi-aggressive mbuna to avoid that.

All the same, I'm convinced that Petsmart's profits would benefit from more intelligent store management. Here is one example - the store in Jenkintown has a betta barracks setup so that the bettas are on a nice wall display with good lighting, and constant fresh water. These happy, healthy bettas not only have less die-off, but they attract far more buyers from what I have witnessed. Compare that to all of the other stores in my area - with the bettas in cups, many of which you can't even see unless you move a whole bunch of others...looking all clampy and drab...and dying at a higher rate....well, they naturally don't sell as much. Plus the die off will add up in loss numbers. Not to mention that an employee has to sit there and change the water in every single little cup three times a week. Now there is a waste of labor.

So for an initial investment of a few hundred dollars, the sales and survival of the fish will increase, and there will be less labor cost. It will pay for itself plus profits within maybe a few weeks.


I think it makes sense. And it's only a letter. It takes three minutes. As caring aquarists, I don't think three minutes is too much trouble for us, even if it is unlikely to do any good.

After all, people still play the lottery.
 
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jodimartin2003 said:
However, we are a car dealership and obviously one unhappy customer could potentially cost us a lot more money than an unhappy petsmart customer would cost them.

Actually it depends. With cars people tend to buy one car every few years. With wet pets, people will be constantly making purchases. The numbers of moneys aren't comparable per se, but then again the cost vs. profit percentage is relatively the same.
 
Ahh yes, when purchasing cars this is the general rule however, the service department is where the money is made. Everyone has to get their oil changed, right? If looking at the service department, it would be much more similar to a petsmart than the car sales aspect.
 
You stated that PetSmart’s fish profile tags on the tanks are incorrect. Anyone who read my threads on this forum would know that I have repeatedly stated that aquarium science is not an exact science.

I recently bought a Yellow tang from PetCo. On the tag it states the minimum tank size to be 50gals. Now take a look the profile info on liveaquaria for a yellow tang. The minimum tank size is 55gal, while on this forums (aquariacentral) it is 50gal.

Now take a look at the temperament of this tang in liveaquaria, it is stated as semi-aggressive while on the aquariacentral it is stated as peaceful.

Now go to saltwaterfish.com. On their profile for this fish, the minimum tank requirement is 75gal.

Now who is right? Is PetCo wrong when it stated it requires only a 50gal tank? Is aquariacentral wrong when it stated it only needed a 50gal tank compared to saltwaterfish?

I don’t buy fish from PetSmart since I gave up all my FW tank for a single SW tank. The ultimate goal of both PetSmart and PetCo is profit. It is hard for me to believe that a such a large franchise like PetSmart would let sales associates be in charge or work in their fish department without basic training. I doubt if their training cover every aspect of the fish keeping. But rather a basic training in handling fish, maintaining a tank, feeding them and some basic information the each fish they keep. Matter of fact, that is all you need to sell their fish.

I believe customer service is very important in bringing and keeping repeat customer. Freescale (where I work as S/W Engineer) spend more than 2 to 3 million dollars in that respect. When customers comes to visit our FAB, we put them in the best hotels, take them out to expensive restaurants and treat the like movie stars. That is part (and one aspect) of customer service. In this regard, it would be degrading and humiliating a customer if the sales associate refuse to sell a fish simply because you feel that this particular fish shouldn’t be placed in their tank. It is always better to advice and educate them (customers) rather than intimidate them . And if they still want to go ahead with the purchase, sales associate can do nothing but sell it to them … that is customer service.

No lets address the information tag issue that was brought up here. As I have shown above, PetCo (and PetSmart) would print the most conservative information on the tag (without lying) to simply promote their sales. If you have a 55gal tank and the PetSmart states that the minimum requirement for that particular fish is 75gal, the customer wouldn’t purchase it. But if the most conservative number that can finds through research is only 50gal (from aquariacentral) , they would rather print than number to promote their sales.

Here is my solution. If you truly feels that PetSmart is doing a disservice to their customer, boycott it and eventually they will change their policies since it would effect their year end profits.

Rohn
 
You should check out http://www.noclownsinacube.net/ and you will see that they are already getting a response from PetSmart.

Yes this is a look we get our information now and then and update when our information tells us 2.

Its a polite way of saying thanks keep shopping with us but stop complaining.

Wouldn't it be wonderfull if we could get a bunch of people to pickit wal-mart and pet-smart on the day after thanksgiving. This would create a little bit of a worrie even though it would not stop any shoppers. Maybe next year we all should work on doing this.
 
If anyone had bothered to read the Why PetSmart page then you would have seen that PetSmart has already promised to review their POP material and are willing to take suggestions, hence the letter writing campaign. By discouraging others from voicing their opinions to these companies it shows your compliance in these companies unethical behavior. If you do not want to send a letter then don't, but discouraging other from doing so serves no usefull purpose.
 
Maybe as a whole chain their info isn't all that great, and I've gotten a couple girls that seem to have been hired for their looks, not their knowledge but... The Petsmarts I've been to have been awesome! I routinely have seen the employees tell the customers to disregard the little tag, and then give out good advice on their own. I even had one girl take notes on what I told her about mystery snails.

Letter writing is all good, and it can make a difference (the O.J. book/special is a good example). I doubt I'll do it. Kudo's to anyone who does though.
 
Nobody said that letter campaign to PetSmart wouldn’t work. Public relation department of PetSmart would respond to any complaint (so does any company in the world from McDonalds to Wal Mart). The complain voice on this forum is the information printed on their product tang and their care guides. The hobbyist would like to see very strict guidelines printed on these material. But the problem is that not even the most reputable authors and web sites (or hobbyists) can aggress on the requirement for keeping fish. Take a look at the example I gave about the Yellow Tang.
The hobbyist would prefer 75 gals to be the min tank size for that species but our own (aquariacentral) disagrees by stating it to be 50gal. Obviously PetSmart (or PetCo) would use the conservative numbers …. for obvious reasons. Until every expert can agree on one and only one way of keeping fish, you are bound to have different methods and opinions on how to keep these fish. Until then, all you can really do is write to PetSmart (or PetCo) and hope that they will alter their information according to our satisfaction.

Rohn
 
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