You state yourself that the ingredients and nutritonal values are fundamentally the same as most other quality foods....to what do you attribute the difference then?
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I can't say anything about NLS, I have no experience with it, but the diluting statement is a load of crap. I'll stick with Hikari for now. I could even say the same thing he said in his blog, my fish are growing like crazy and look great....using Hikari (not exclusively 
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Where did I say they are the same?
Hikari is good. I used it extensively before I used NLS. It will yield very good results. But NLS is better. The growth is faster, the colors are much better, it is simply better. If you have not used NLS exclusively you cannot say it is not better than the other foods because you simply do not know. I never said 'all other foods will provide fish of dull colors, poor health, and slowed growth'. I simply said NLS is better, a relative term. It does not mean that all the others are crap, just that from my own and many others' experience NLS is better.
The dilution of nutrition is not false. If it is then how do you explain using it exclusively provides much better results then when it is part of a mix?
Hikari is good. I used it extensively before I used NLS. It will yield very good results. But NLS is better. The growth is faster, the colors are much better, it is simply better. If you have not used NLS exclusively you cannot say it is not better than the other foods because you simply do not know. I never said 'all other foods will provide fish of dull colors, poor health, and slowed growth'. I simply said NLS is better, a relative term. It does not mean that all the others are crap, just that from my own and many others' experience NLS is better.
The dilution of nutrition is not false. If it is then how do you explain using it exclusively provides much better results then when it is part of a mix?
But you apparently have no idea why? "Better" is not exactly quantifiable.
A quote from your blog:
I was assuming you meant NLS, Omega One and Hikari by "three foods" but maybe not.
Analysis of Omega One FW Flake
Min. Crude Protein….41%
Min. Crude Fat………11%
Max. Crude Fiber…….2%
Max. Moisture………. 8.5%
Max Ash……………..8%
Min. Phosphorus….(.5%)
Min. Omega 3 ………. 2%
Min. Omega 6………...1% INGREDIENTS: Whole Salmon, Halibut, Black Cod, Whole Herring , Whole Shrimp, Whole Krill, Wheat Flour, Wheat Gluten, Fresh Kelp, Lecithin, Astaxanthin, L-Ascorbyl-2-Phosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Natural and Artificial Colors, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Folic Acid, Biotin, Inositol, Tocopherol (Preservative),
Ethoxyquin (Preservative).
Analysis of Hikari Tropical flake:
Crude Protein 47% Min.
Crude Fat 7% Min.
Crude Fiber 2% Max.
Moisture 10% Max.
Crude Ash 16% Max.
Phosphorus 1.2% Min.
Ingredients: fish meal, milt meal, alpha starch, claim meal, Antartic krill meal, wheat flour, gluten meal, cocoa powder, spirulina, carotenoid fortifier, brewers' dried yeast, sea weed meal, crab meal, fish oil, vegetable lecithin, vitamins and minerals including stabilized vitamin C
Analysis of New Life Spectrum
Not listed on their website.
A quote from your blog:
.reptileguy2727 said:
I was assuming you meant NLS, Omega One and Hikari by "three foods" but maybe not.
Analysis of Omega One FW Flake
Min. Crude Protein….41%
Min. Crude Fat………11%
Max. Crude Fiber…….2%
Max. Moisture………. 8.5%
Max Ash……………..8%
Min. Phosphorus….(.5%)
Min. Omega 3 ………. 2%
Min. Omega 6………...1% INGREDIENTS: Whole Salmon, Halibut, Black Cod, Whole Herring , Whole Shrimp, Whole Krill, Wheat Flour, Wheat Gluten, Fresh Kelp, Lecithin, Astaxanthin, L-Ascorbyl-2-Phosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Natural and Artificial Colors, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Folic Acid, Biotin, Inositol, Tocopherol (Preservative),
Ethoxyquin (Preservative).
Analysis of Hikari Tropical flake:
Crude Protein 47% Min.
Crude Fat 7% Min.
Crude Fiber 2% Max.
Moisture 10% Max.
Crude Ash 16% Max.
Phosphorus 1.2% Min.
Ingredients: fish meal, milt meal, alpha starch, claim meal, Antartic krill meal, wheat flour, gluten meal, cocoa powder, spirulina, carotenoid fortifier, brewers' dried yeast, sea weed meal, crab meal, fish oil, vegetable lecithin, vitamins and minerals including stabilized vitamin C
Analysis of New Life Spectrum
Not listed on their website.
Folks:
glf asked a question about the best fish flakes and you have been appropriately responding.
You are doing good as in depositions but I believe that the question that she was trying to ask is what are the best foods for fish.
Please refer to my previous post. In this post I did not mention TetraMin Tropical Flakes which I also feed. When purchased in bulk the cost is insignificant. Please ref:http://sea-dweller.petrg.com/cgi-bin/sea/TTR16623.html
I would appreciate everyones' input with respect to this question.
TR
glf asked a question about the best fish flakes and you have been appropriately responding.
You are doing good as in depositions but I believe that the question that she was trying to ask is what are the best foods for fish.
Please refer to my previous post. In this post I did not mention TetraMin Tropical Flakes which I also feed. When purchased in bulk the cost is insignificant. Please ref:http://sea-dweller.petrg.com/cgi-bin/sea/TTR16623.html
I would appreciate everyones' input with respect to this question.
TR
I just started buying the food from kensfish.com, which seems to be working really well (the fish love it, switched over without thinking twice) and my ram and rummynose have both colored up, although that may be due to a tank switch as well. And, in bulk, its about half the price of the Tetramin stuff.
I was referring to the three types of NLS I bought, not a comparison to other brands.
When determining 'better', I take into account: color of the fish, health of the fish, growth rate of the fish, breeding output of the fish, and the fishes' willingness to feed on it. This includes my tiretrack eel that went from 6" to 20" in about a year on NLS exclusively and the clown knives, arowanas, gars, and african butterfly fish at my work that take to it immediately (we do not feed any fish at my work any live food).
You can feed it in a mix, but you will probably not get the results that have generated the 'hype' over the food. It is not a super-concentrated formula of color enhancers. Mixing it with other foods will reduce its effectiveness and make it appear as just another high quality food. But it is better.
When determining 'better', I take into account: color of the fish, health of the fish, growth rate of the fish, breeding output of the fish, and the fishes' willingness to feed on it. This includes my tiretrack eel that went from 6" to 20" in about a year on NLS exclusively and the clown knives, arowanas, gars, and african butterfly fish at my work that take to it immediately (we do not feed any fish at my work any live food).
You can feed it in a mix, but you will probably not get the results that have generated the 'hype' over the food. It is not a super-concentrated formula of color enhancers. Mixing it with other foods will reduce its effectiveness and make it appear as just another high quality food. But it is better.
Just try it.
Worst case: it doesn't work as well for you as your current diet and you know you are providing a great diet. You still gain because you know that is one option that is not as good.
Worst case: it doesn't work as well for you as your current diet and you know you are providing a great diet. You still gain because you know that is one option that is not as good.
NLS and Hikari
I feel all my chiclids Hikari Blood worms and NLS pellets each morning.
Hikari Brine shrimp and Blood worms for lunch.
Sally's San Francisco Bay brand Mysis Shrimp and NLS for dinner.
sometimes I switch up the NLS for Hikari Pellets since the NLS sink.
My fish eat well.
I feel all my chiclids Hikari Blood worms and NLS pellets each morning.
Hikari Brine shrimp and Blood worms for lunch.
Sally's San Francisco Bay brand Mysis Shrimp and NLS for dinner.
sometimes I switch up the NLS for Hikari Pellets since the NLS sink.
My fish eat well.
