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Hello everyone!

So, I'm not completely new to the whole aquarium thing... I have owned an Eclipse 3g tank for a few years, and I have killed a series of goldfish in it. In my defense, I was going by the 1 gallon per inch of fish rule and did not know that a) that rule is bogus, especially for goldfish, and b) that it's really really bad for them. No wonder 'Fish' was sick all of the time. :( Now that I know my error, I feel a bit guilty and I'm determined to do things right this time around.

After doing some research, I have decided that my tank is best suited for a single betta. I thought bettas were ugly and boring because I had only ever seen them wallowing in the tiny cups at the pet store. However, after I found a youtube video of a white halfmoon named "Milk" I realized I was wrong... and that a betta is a very active fish in the right conditions... and now I'm obsessed. I want one NOW! :D

The tank has been sitting empty/dry for a while, and because I had a nasty algae problem AND my last goldfish was chronically ill, I opted to clean it and the decor with a bleach solution and then rinse it all like eighty times. The old biowheel was thrown away, so when I set this tank up on Tuesday (when I get home from Christmas) it will basically be an entirely squeaky-clean new tank.

I have a lot of questions about setting it up for a betta. I have some starter drops and such, but I don't know that those can substitute for having actual fish in there. I hear the term letting a tank "cycle," and I don't know what that means. Can the biowheel get established in an empty tank, or does there have to be a fish in there? I don't want to kill a more expensive betta by dunking it in a new tank, but I don't want to buy a fish I don't really like with the assumption that it could likely die. Basically, how do I set up a new tank well enough that it won't kill whatever pretty halfmoon betta I buy?

The plan for now is to set up the tank, add water and some kind of starter drops, let it run for a week or so, and THEN go get a fish. Is that reasonable? I just feel like I'm flying blind. They all say you have to "cycle" a tank, but I've read very little that goes into much detail about what "cycling" actually means.

As per decor, I've got a couple plastic plants and a rock, but I've read some things that claim that real plants are better for the fish and the tank. Is that true? I've never had real plants in the aquarium before... are they high maintenance? Is the benefit worth the hassle?

Also, I've had a lot of problems with algae in the past, and I worry that it will become an issue again. I know I need to keep the tank out of direct sunlight, but even doing that, I still seem to have problems. Should algae arise again, what would be the best method for keeping it down? A snail?

Lastly, where is the best place to purchase a fancier betta? I've never seen anything other than dark-colored veil tails in my local pet store. I've found online suppliers that carry the bright yellow or opaque white halfmoons that I think are so pretty... but those are $30 for the fish, and another $30 for shipping... I can't afford that. Do the aquarium-only stores tend to have a bigger variety than the generic PETCO? I'm on Long Island, and I think there are a couple of those sorts of stores near me. Would supplies (like filter cartridges, or a submersible 10 watt heater) be any cheaper there than online?

I can't tell you how excited I am about all of this. I've been totally obsessing since I got my tank back on Monday. I'm like a little kid! I can't wait to get a pretty betta. hehehe :D

I know I've asked a lot of questions. I'll keep searching the internet and the forums for answers, but if you feel inclined to help me with anything I've asked about, I'll be very grateful. Thanks for reading!
 
I found a thread on cycling... is there a way to expedite or simplify fishless cycling, or is there a reliable source for a decent "starter?"
 
Read the sticky at the top of the page if you follow it you will have a safe tank for your betta. Unfortunately there are no short cuts to cycling unless you can get some filter media from an established tank to seed your own filter.

With regards to algae, good tank maintainance should keep that under control. I would'nt add snail to a 3g tank just to clean it, they produce alot of mess and will increase the bio load on a tank that will be already at maximum capacity JMO.
 
I'll start with a couple basic things. I'm sure others will be along to add more.

Simply putting in water and "starter drops" and letting it run for a week is just a waste of a week. Without an ammonia source, no bacteria will develope on your biowheel. For an ammonia source, you can do a few things. A) add fish-the problem with this is that it can be dangerous for the fish with the ammonia spikes that can happen before the bacteria are established. B) use fish food or a market shrimp or something-I think this is a little gross as it is just something rotting in the tank. C) buy pure bottled ammonia-you have to make sure there is no soap or anything in the ammonia, just ammonia and water-this is my favorite method of fishless cycling. If you can get some cycled filter media from a reliable source (fish stores can be a gamble) it will make the process go much faster. With enough cycled filter media, it's basically an instant cycle.
 
nevermind. :P
 
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... use fish food or a market shrimp or something-I think this is a little gross as it is just something rotting in the tank...

more gross than the normal source of ammonia in an established tank? (rotting fish food and fish POOP ?) :)
 
on the side of plants they absorb nitrate to grow sorta like a small filter, ofcorse for this you need a reasonable lighting about 1>2 watts per gallon. ive also been told that if you dont remove this algae can use this as it's food source leading to algae blooms.
 
I would get some shrimps. If you want a fancy nice looking betta your gonna have to pay a bunch of money. Along plants you can get low light plants and they grow alot more slowly. If you are planning on getting the betta from a petco or waterever you are gonna wanna acclimate them to yuor tank by floating them or having water dropping into the bag they are in so they can get used to the pH and temperature.
 
more gross than the normal source of ammonia in an established tank? (rotting fish food and fish POOP ?) :)

Well, just plain rotting food quickly leads to fungi/molds IME. I prefer the bottled ammonia. Still smells terrible, but at least it isn't
moldy
 
Hey FF, you should begin with the sticky on cycling @ http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84598 It's debated but there is a product from "TETRA" called "SAFE START" which adds good bacteria to your tank making cycling a little faster and easier.it worked well for me. No matter what way you decide to cycle your tank be ready for lots and lots of water changes. 50% water changes daily would be best. If you begin having problems with algae start with a water change and wiping away as much of the algae as possible and don't leave your light on for as long.algae LOVES light. I have read here from many more experienced fish keepers that a fully planted tank means you don't have to vacume your substrate.(gravel or sand). in fact you can't without disturbing your plants. The plants feed on the excess food and fish waste making tank maintenance a little easier although water changes will still be necessary. (most ppl here agree 30-50% weekly on a fully cycled tank minimum). If you have a sparsely planted tank like myself you should still vacume around the plants or you can develop algae blooms. On a personal not. planted tanks look better and though I have no info to back this up I think it makes for a healthier and happier fish. No matter how you decide to cycle you will need to test your water. I suggest the API master test kit. It is very accurate and the detailed instructions made it easier for me to pick up on the overload of unexpected info. Sorry for the long response. I tried to keep the answers simple and direct. Good Luck.
 
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