MAFIA 10: Vampires!

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[Lady G]

I believed LG was evil since she so happily followed DD and I then said she wouldn't hold it against us, THEN, did hold it against us. Swayde I similarly am worried about although not as strongly as the other two. RB hasn't seemed himself and thats why my vote has been on him. Wow, now I need to do massive rereading. Are either of these two the LV???

You are wrong Z I never held it against you or DD, in fact I said I DON"T blame you guy's for my vote I said I chose to vote MM you didn't make me, I took responsibility for my vote...what I used against you (if you want to call it that) was your constant post's together with the same votes I just asked for answers to clear your name from my thoughts that was ALL I did, I did NOT use MM against you EVER. So please if you are going to try to use my words against me get them right ok.
Really it doesn't matter to me everyone is going to believe Charlie, even though if you think about it IF he KNEW RB and myself to be Vamps, why would he not of tried to get others to see it (not by coming out earlier) but by building a case or saying he though us to be evil. You know Charlie he wouldn't sit back all quiet and not post about it. If what he say's is true then he would of "supposedly" known last night fall...look back did he vote either of us...did he mention us Nooooo he didn't did he think about it Z and everyone else does that make since.

Here's what I think I think Sploke is the hunter or seer and he knows this, with Sploke kidnapped, and knowing the real hunter/seer wouldn't want to come out he picked seer knowing they have power to investigate to try and get rid of RB and myself b/c we were on to him.
Look at his voting record..If he investigated myself AND RB it would of been night one and two, meaning on night two he would of voted the one he "got" night one HE DIDN"T HE VOTED DC!!!! HE IS LYING!!!!!!!!!!

well, interesting day. i think bkw is probably telling the truth but who knows. i do remember he said he started a new job last game (or the one before) if he posts again he will definately get my next vote. guppy who is writing your posts??? something definately not right about you, my toothy friend.
I vote to stake Guppy

Night one Guppy

i vote to stake guppy
until i know what happened here

After she had been kidnapped and still w/ the kidnapper he still votes her

Now come day 2 remember he investigated either me or Rb supposibly but he doesn't vote either???

just got home, will read everything more carefully and post after supper. For now,
i vote to stake JL.
subject to change after a more careful reading of the days events

wow. interesting day. i agree these 24 days make it hard to get a good read, im looking forward to going to 48 days. JL is suspicious but i doubt there is a connection between him and Ogre. DC seems to want to seize on the opportunity to train John. Although he seems a little scummy, DC seems scummier.
I retract my vote for JL, and vote to stake DC.

Not until today...and late in the day I might add did he even mention RB he didn't "push" for him as someone who KNEW him to be a Vamp would no he just mentions him as a good turn candidate.

my top suspects:
RB: here is a perfect turn. not much suspicion. can see the invisibles. his posts don't seem to help much. something fishy here for sure. i would like to see a list from you RB
JL: something funny here too. voting style is weird this game. was my role playing that bad John?? Any other suspects or are you happy parked on me for another couple days???

To the Kidnapper:
do you have to use your power?? seems to me its dangerous, and what if you scoop the seer or priest??? are you evil or what??? other than show us guppy was innocent (for now) your power isnt helping us. Maybe just kidnap our lynch victims from now on until you die if you really want to help. Or stop kidnapping people altogether. Anyone else have any ideas on this???

Then he doesnt want the kidnapper to use his "power" why??

Now he votes RB wow after you have investigated and NO he is evil you wait until now to vote him?? It seems to me if you KNEW him to Vamp you would of come right out and voted him!

i mean i vote to stake RB

This will be my last post until Sunday morning. I'll be out of town. I thought it funny that JL said he would vote for the first person to role play, and CS did it right away. I think they may be working together.

Just throwing this one in here b/c when I mentioned Guppy not posting someone said she said she would be gone till Sunday...this is where he comes after me saying I was "skimming" post...when it wasn't even Guppy that said that, now it seems to me if he was going to try and accuse me he would get the facts straight first. Oh yeah and at this point he "knew" me to be evil btw.

welcome to my suspect list. so you're saying ewurm DC and guppy are vampires??

Oh but NOW I'm on his "suspect" list thought he KNEW me to be a Vamp?? This was after I said maybe DC and Ewurm are Vamps is he protecting his "buddies"?

Ok now I ask does it REALLY look like he investigated me or RB and found us evil...if so why was he not voting either until today when his name was brought up...votes were going his way he had to do something to try and save himself I am thinking HE IS LV!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lady G]

It kinda worries me that nobody has had Mad on their lists, espcially not the vamps. DC and Ewurm are being soooo quiet though and I know DC's been reading the thread today.

Why do you think this is Swayde...maybe b/c DC, Ewurm and Charlie are all actually the Vamps??? Actually Ewurm did post he would be gone until Sunday..if you look back Charlie accused me of Skimming because I said something about guppy not posting, and it was said she said she was going to be gone, but I guess Charlie was the "skimmer" since she DIDN"T say that Ewurm did..Hmmm now that I think about it maybe Gup was turned and this was a way for Charlie to "protect" her.

Ok, just got home from work and boy did all hell break loose here. I'm gonna trust charlie...I sensed something big from him, but apparently like Z I have a hard time distinguishing evil from power-roles.

I vote to stake rb.

Sorry for going after you real hard CS, if you are the seer. You seemed to be hiding something.

Btw, I teach ballroom dancing and work from about noon to 9pm. Usually I get home around 10ish and am too tired to say anything intelligent that hasn't been said earlier. I've tried to post nightly lists of my suspicions. I also drink every so often and on those nights we've seen the results of when I try to post, so I've tried to avoid that as well...haha....Fri-Mon nights I have much more time and am able to be more active in reading.

He's hidding something alright but it's not that he's the seer! Why would he of voted for you on night 2 if he KNEW me or RB was VAMP?? According to him he KNOWS because he investigated us well he would of had 1 of us that night sooo why vote you???? To distance himself from you possibly? I don't know but it seems not quite right to me. What do you think about that DC? I don't really know that I think you are Vamp but I no if Charlie KNEW one of us was vamp he sure the hell wouldn't of voted for you. If he did no and voted you how is that being helpful to the town as "seer"?

Would have been foolish. He didn't have much choice today. Too many votes on him and he has 2 evils, which is plenty good enough to get us going in the right direction, especially if one turns out to be the lead vamp. I think he also nailed Ogre.

Swayde I am begging you look back at his voting pattern, his post's where until I mention him did he even REMOTELY mention me, why would he of voted DC on night 2 if he KNEW a vamp that night??? IF HE KNEW THE 2 VAMPS wouldn't he of been at least pushing for them before now????

 

[Lady G]

HUNTER DO NOT COME OUT

I agree!! I think Charlie is trying to get the Hunter to come out by doing this so the Vamps will know who s/he is and can take them out!

 

[johnlarson66]

LadyG,

What do you think of Mad's claim to be the hunter. What do you think of what Mad has posted.

Let's say CS is full of it and is a vampire, even the LV.

What about Mad's post?

 

[Lady G]

Alright, Chas! I hope you're not just holding a grudge, as rb was the one, who as bodyguard, plugged you on Day 2 of the Bloody Coup round.
2 for 2 in just 2 nights....that's much better than anyone else did in picking out vamps. How'd you get so lucky???


But, playtime is over now, Chas....do you want to hear something really funny?

Here goes....

You, Chas, are NOT the Seer. Sploke is the Seer....I know this, as I am Madcrawdad, and I AM THE HUNTER. I am the Hunter, and I'm going to shoot you with my arrow. Tonight.

So far we've only identified one vamp by investigation....

Night 1 - wcolwell is innocent (wasted investigation as he didn't vote and was killed)
Night 2 - ewurm is evil


I still can't figure out why you would play the fake seer card this early, but came up with the following possible scenario...

The current score is 9 villagers v. 4 vamps:

If somehow you suspected that rb might be kidnapper, you could persuade the villagers to lynch him. RB would die, as would the last villager voting ....score is then 7 villagers v 4 vamps.

Then the vamps get their hit....with a successful turn, score becomes 6 villagers v. 5 vamps. Granted, you'd be lynched the next night for lying to the village, but vamps would also get a hit. Next night, all it would take is an incorrect lynch by the village to secure the vamp win. But, you forgot my arrow...the one I'm going to kill you with. It's unlikely that your plan will work.

Nice try, though. I've suspected you since yesterday with the whole 'I vote for DC, but now I like DC's list, even though I disagree with everyone on it,' but today I've truly peeped your show, my toothy friend

I vote to lynch Charlie Stubbs

I recommend that villagers vote for either Chas or ewurm tonight...

If you believe Chas, vote for rbishop, just don't be the last one to vote, or it could really be your last vote. Remember that rbishop spent a lot of time clarifying the kidnapper's rules....although the kidnapper is not allowed to reveal themself, it could be a clue on his part(and rb is pretty big into clues).

Good night for now.

I didn't see this before when I was posting, but sorry Charlie I believe Mad not you, I still don't see why you would wait LATE into day 3 to vote Rb and then come out and say that I am Vamp to...you would of voted one of us on night two and came back fireing right off on day 3 with a case toward the other one. Nice try Charlie:grinyes:

 

[Lady G]

LadyG,

What do you think of Mad's claim to be the hunter. What do you think of what Mad has posted.

Let's say CS is full of it and is a vampire, even the LV.

What about Mad's post?

Honestly John, I'm not sure but I am more apt to believe Mad than Charlie as I said IF he knew Rb or myself to be Vamps WHY VOTE DC on night two and why wait soooo long in day 3 to try and build a case against either of us? You know Charlie you have played enough w/ him if he KNOWS someone to be bad and he is innocent he's ALL OVER THEM FROM THE GET GO!

 

[johnlarson66]

So you honestly think Mad is the Hunter?

You agree with his post? His plan?

Honestly Lady G, he kind of messed up. Is this the best you guys got. He exposed himself and really let the vampires down. Is he the LV? Are you guys talking at all?

Why not just save the hunter the effort and kill yourself. Then the hunter can hit Ogre. See if Mad will kill himself also.

Why make this any harder, concede. Let's get to the next game.

 

[Lady G]

CRAP, I read his (mad) post wrong I thought he said he was the seer, MAD why would you do that, now you put yourself out there to be taken or killed by the Vamps!!
I understand you wanted to discredit Charlies claims but now you have put yourself in danger as well.

Priest whoever you are DON'T BELIEVE CHARLIE!!! DO NOT LET MAD BE HIT!!!
LOOK AT CHARLIES POSTs do they look like the post's of someone who has known a VAMP since day 2 start?? I do not think so, I think we have a Vamp possibley LV that was going to end up dead and is trying to fight back!

I really don't know about RB, seriously but if Charlie is going so hard against him I think he is innocent, from the post I think he must be the kidnapper..it definatly makes since...he did make MANY refrences to the kidnapper role.

 

[johnlarson66]

Lady G,

Your vampire teamates have let you down. It is not your fault. You are going to get hit by the hunter. Ogre and Mad will attempt to turn someone. It is 50/50. One of them will be taken out by the town. There will either be 1 or 2 vampires. The town will take out the remaining who they spared the night before. There will be another 50/50 attempt. At most there are 2 brand new vampires. Then this just drags on.

Why not just help yourself. Like I said, this was not your fault. You played well. There is nothing to be ashamed of in conceding. We can start another game.