Mafia 101 - Blarney Castle: Return of the Leprechauns - Game Thread

Kashta said:
I'm not buying this dumb blonde act, Lady G. My posts were not that confusing for others to follow.

I made a lot of posts and yes they were lengthy. But anyone who can think in complete sentences can easily follow what I had to say.

You are right that I said things over and over. That I did. As I progressed through all those posts in order, many of them came back again to the same points. That repetition you complain about stemmed from the posts I referenced in turn. It wasn't just me being repetitive as you want others to think.
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Sorry Kash...they made my head spin and I'm sure I am not the only one who felt that way. (BTW, I'm now a red head)
 
Current vote count:
LG (4) - Wiz (#275), Kash (#316), Zaffy (#360), Fozzy (#362)
Kash (1) - LG (#290), Hi Iq (#320)
Hi Iq (2) - AAF (#299), LG (#380)
Driver (1) - JB (#363)

No vote: Driver


Nightfall in less than 2 hours. PMs as needed.
 
Lady G said:
Ok, as for my vote on Chill...nope I did not state in the vote itself, I actually do this often when I am trying to feel a person out, I don't always say mt exact intintion, because I am looking for reaction to the question, statement, or vote. If I fully state my thought or intention...the reaction I get will not be the same. I don't know how exactly to explain it's just a way for me to feel people out. I figured most likely Chill would pick up the fact I had this "feeling" about him and wanted to see his reaction. His words/videos really say a lot to me.

My vote/retraction- When I placed the vote, first I wasn't sure what was going to happen that day and wasn't sure how much I would be here. When I was able to read through the thread more, Kash jumped out at me (again more of that knee jerk reaction kind of thing and I read through her posts again. When she said I often vote Chill "random" on day 1 and he does me...that did not sit well with me, because it just isn't true. Knowing I would be able to be here I pulled my vote...Reading her post about Dawg made me feel more like she was trying to "suck up" to him, when he posted and answered me I felt he was most likely innocent. That is when I put my vote on Kash.

it wasn't pressure, I just wondered if they were so sure why not put the vote where their suspicion was.

No, that was not the reason, I said "another" reason...I actually wanted to split up the vote a little to see what would happen, since having all players on one person shows us nothing but their role. Also, if there was any hope at all for O3T...I'm sure we would of seen some evil action go on, but the way it played out I'm sure each and every one of them were one O3T.

Again, it is a hard explanation Kash like Chill, Rich and a couple others are hard to "catch up" it is a subtle thing in their posting that just has a different feel to it. Yes, she was posting "townish" but it was not a "natural town" feel to her posts it is more a trying to play the same as when innocent feel to her posts.

JB, it wasn't so much the Taylor Swift song...the song itself had nothing to do with it, that was just something I could put my vote with and I explained above why I didn't add the "I have a feeling thing" you see, he may or may not of picked up on that fact....it is all about his reaction and NO I can't explain that either, it's just the way I can read him (not always correct I will add).

Right, I could of left my vote on them...but people tend to talk/react more when you actually vote, and the reactions are what are important and telling most the time.

There isn't a "bullet point" case there never will be when it comes to Kash, plain and simple you either pick up on something subtle or you don't she will never be one you will be able to build a "true" case on. Her posts to me, seem more like a fake innocent Kash then her true innocent Kash

Ok I think I got all of it answered for you please let me know if you need me to elaborate more on anything.
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Well that gave me a chuckle, Lady G. I gotta remember to stop doing that! ;) lmao... j/k.

But seriously.

You keep bringing up my comment about Dawg like it's a discriminating point or something. It isn't. I said what I said about Dawg to illustrate a point I was trying to make to AAF. And doing so, I thought it might help AAF see what I was getting at. Besides which saying anything complimentary about any vet in a game usually just raises their hackles up. It never endears them to you. If I was really trying to "suck up" to Dawg (as you claim) mentioning how good a player he is certainly would not accomplish that.

Again, your points and arguments don't actually make sense, Lady G.

Another funny thing is, in the thread I also called Dawg handsome. Now that WAS a flattering compliment, particularly since I've never seen the man. lmao. Yet you don't point to that remark as sucking up. lol.

This part is not true (except for Lady G having no case):

There isn't a "bullet point" case there never will be when it comes to Kash, plain and simple you either pick up on something subtle or you don't she will never be one you will be able to build a "true" case on

I get lynched a lot. I get lynched as an innocent and I get lynched as evil. I don't blame someone for suspecting me. I'm a good enough player that I expect suspicion and others should always question me.

The issue here is, so okay... suspect me. And keep that mind, question me as you feel necessary. But don't try to screw up a very important lynch just because I'm scary. Or just because I'm a good player. Or just because I've fooled people before.

As often as I've screwed up a game in even our recent past, it isn't all that difficult for me to even get myself lynched.

I think others in this game are having a hard time believing you, Lady G, because they've seen how often I make mistakes. They know better. So for you to point me out and use my over-inflated reputation against me as reason to kill me. It's just scummy.
 
Lady G said:
Wizard, I'm not going to "beg" for my life or be all "omg, your going to regret it"....but I am going to ask you to think about this, and think how many times you and I have gone through this, then think how many times were you right/wrong when this has happened....



And if you read her posts, yes they are very long but in the end...they really say nothing, there isn't really a point exept to make it "appear" she was digging, seriously read then do you truly see anything "revealing" in them, they are the same thought over and over, just worded differently throughout the post. In this game "reputation says a lot Zaff. Her posts are all fluff


I beg to differ Wizard, I did lower Dawg as you can see here, yes I was trying to get ppl to look at others, I have said that and I said why several times.
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Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm voting you not because I trust what Kash says. I think there's a decent chance that she could be scum. I'm voting you because, to me, your arguments seem to be based on fallacies rather than content from the thread.


Lady G said:
This really may be nothing but is something that just made me pause...when Kash just pulled IQs post, the wording stopped me for a moment because it was "familure" Notice the how close the wording is between IQ and Zaff?






Now yes Zaff used "logical fallacies" instead of facts but something is odd to me about the closeness to their wording. Of course one is toward me the other toward Kash, and yea it isn't much but it something to think about.
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lol.
 
OK... this is the last post I'll be able to get in before nightfall.

G... WTF? I don't get the flip flop after all the commotion? It stinks to high heaven. You didn't have a good reason to suspect Kash other than... well, she's Kash. Do you have a reason for retracting that? Talk about making a head spin. Given that, and the fact that Driver might well UD: I retract my vote on Driver and vote to lynch LG.

That being said, I still have lots of hesitation about Driver, and if he does slide in with a late vote he's gonna have some 'splainin to do.
 
Kashta said:
That line seems real antagonistic to me. In your post, you talked about a possible connection between me and Wizard. Yet you get pissy about it when Wizard has something to say to that.

Just because you address something TO me in particular doesn't preclude someone else from responding to what you said. Doesn't matter whether that is Wizard or anyone else. All posts are fair game.

Trying to divert the townie vote off certain evil even to any other "likely" suspect or a "probable" suspect is confusing and it's not pro-town. The fact that you left your vote where it was doesn't change the fact you were also urging others to reconsider their votes on O3T. You even suggested you might change your vote if others did too.

You want us to ignore this today now just because your vote stayed put? I don't think so. You can't dodge responsibility for what you attempt to do with that. It's a very weak defense in your case. That attempt and this defense is also a scum-tell, incidentally.
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But Kashta, the post was speaking of you leaving out quotes. He then says HE didn't leave out quotes. He was answering as if the quote was directed at him. The defense was not that he answered the post but how he answered it. I wasn't trying to divert anyone, I didn't push for anything. I was looking towards the next day. LG brought up moving, I said if we had enough players I might but I'd hate to let sure scum slip through. If I was pushing I'd have moved and tried to get others to move. I would have been more adamant about it. Everything is a scum tell in this game to you, damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm not going to be pushed into something because of what others think about me.I make my choices and will live or die by them.


Lady G said:
Ok, I no this will look "bad" but hey, I've never worried about how something may look when I feelI may be on to something

I retract my vote on Kash and vote to lynch HIIQ

I'm almost willing to bet Zaff and IQ are partners and I have been wrong about Kash I don't expect others to follow me or remove thier votes from me but I can't leave my vote on Kash thinking I may be wrong. This would explain IQ's reason to not move to Kash last night (unless of course enough others did)
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Wowzers, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I thought it was weird that you didn't think Toes slipped but with everyone on Toes I figured you were doing as I was and looking forward. I wasn't thinking you were innocent but wasn't thinking scummy either. I was reserving my judgement on you as I know you go off half cocked sometimes. I can't believe you and Kashta are both evil the way you've gone after each other so one is innocent. I don't see anything scummy from Zaffy. You are basing a whole lot on feelings and coincidence, and nothing on fact.

I retract my vote on Kashta and vote to lynch LG
 
Lady G said:
This really may be nothing but is something that just made me pause...when Kash just pulled IQs post, the wording stopped me for a moment because it was "familure" Notice the how close the wording is between IQ and Zaff?






Now yes Zaff used "logical fallacies" instead of facts but something is odd to me about the closeness to their wording. Of course one is toward me the other toward Kash, and yea it isn't much but it something to think about.
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Its nothing but its vote worthy lol
 
Zaffy said:
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm voting you not because I trust what Kash says. I think there's a decent chance that she could be scum. I'm voting you because, to me, your arguments seem to be based on fallacies rather than content from the thread.




lol.
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This makes no sense Zaff...you are voting me b/c I assume you think I'm scum, yet you think there is a good chance Kash is?? It seemd to me you are implying Kash and are are evil team mates...seriously???

jbradt said:
OK... this is the last post I'll be able to get in before nightfall.

G... WTF? I don't get the flip flop after all the commotion? It stinks to high heaven. You didn't have a good reason to suspect Kash other than... well, she's Kash. Do you have a reason for retracting that? Talk about making a head spin. Given that, and the fact that Driver might well UD: I retract my vote on Driver and vote to lynch LG.

That being said, I still have lots of hesitation about Driver, and if he does slide in with a late vote he's gonna have some 'splainin to do.
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I said why, it's ok...I fully expected I was going tonight, my role will be revealed regardless I couldn't go down not sharing my thoughts and I couldn't go down with my vote left on Kash when I think IQ and Zaff are actually the remaining scum. After I am gone, I can't say my thoughts and I would rather them be out there.
 
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