Mafia 104 - Dawg the Bounty Hunter - The Play

[Chill]

Seriously folks its a placeholder vote. I expect it will change. Nothing on JB other than he usually finds me scummy on Day 1 and he didn't pass any comment on it this time which strikes me odd.

Emphasis on nothing. I only offered my 'reasoning" cause you asked. Not a great reason but it's a placeholder vote. It means no more or no less than my vote on you yesterday.

 

[jpappy789]

taking everything in context for what it is
but still singling this out since it's the second time you've insisted it just doesn't work that way

i would like to take this time to point out that to railroad another player... often it's necessary to form temporary alliances within the game thread... so they can take the heat when the person railroaded turns up innocent.

and you're very good at it.

you're a strong player... and i'm sure we all know what you're capable of should you put your mind to it.

that is all.

whether i floated that idea early on has no bearing on this IMO.

The only reason you brought this up initially was because of that meaningless post of mine to Chill, so how can you say that it has no bearing on this? Again, you were suggesting I could do something as scum without any indication as to how it pertains to the context of the game at hand. To me it seems you just wanted names out there.

As for using the word "alliance," you originally said SCUM alliance meaning I could not have let an innocent take the fall as you described above. Unless you just felt like suggesting twice that I could be scum without any reason to do so?

I'll answer your questions caused you asked, ut you nipping at the wrong heels Pap.




I said at this point and at that point that's what I would do. As time wore on I waviered more to it was Zaf being Zaf, and was no longer sure I would vote him. Although that could change between now and nightfall.

Since you're pointing out the wording used, I'd like to also point out that you then said "it will still be Zaffy till something better comes along" which, to me, indicates that any future placeholder vote would also be placed on Zaffy.

I understand rethinking your thoughts on him, but it bugs me when players do somewhat of a 180 on players without any notice.

 

[jpappy789]

Emphasis on nothing. I only offered my 'reasoning" cause you asked. Not a great reason but it's a placeholder vote. It means no more or no less than my vote on you yesterday.

I find it interesting that in a game in where there very easily should be no UDs (unless you're careless enough to not vote twice) that there seems to be more emphasis on having specifically a placeholder vote...

 

[jbradt]

I had to pop in to comment on this.

Seriously folks its a placeholder vote. I expect it will change. Nothing on JB other than he usually finds me scummy on Day 1 and he didn't pass any comment on it this time which strikes me odd.

This actually made me LOL. A friend of mine now thinks I'm insane. It's so funny because I had the thought earlier that it was strange that I don't find you any more suspect than anyone else after day 1. I also thought it was a little strange that you hadn't posted a video yet the entire game.

It was a serious vote. I did in fact get the slight impression that it could have been opportunistic by Rich to time his vote in the scenario I proposed. I wouldn't go that far.

I've done this many times in the past, and will continue to do so in the future.

A true statement. Not particularly helpful because there are only a handful of people who can verify my claim, and I don't think they are willing to share.

It wasn't a joke. It had weak reasoning, but it was better than nothing. That's more than you can say for the vast majority of day 1 voting.

Sorry, I'm not scum. I wasn't turned and I didn't start as scum. I agree it would have been funny though.

I hear what you're saying. And it makes sense. At this point tbh, I don't know what to think and much like you're vote on Rich it's the best I have to go on atm.

I guess right now, I don't get a scum feel from Neph. After playing closely with him last game, I see him making much the same kind of posts and arguments he made then. This is not to say I trust him, but I haven't seen any flags yet.

AAF is AAF. I'm not worried about him for the moment.

Kash's posts deserve a much better read when I have time before I make any kind of decision.

FF... jeez. he's FF, who knows. but I'm not getting a heavy vibe from him right now.

RB... same as FF. :rofl:

Labby... (congrats!!!) no vibe yet.

This is not intended intended to be a "list". It is also not intended to be all inclusive. This is a collection of unrelated, random thoughts that occurred to me at the time I wrote the post. =)

 

[dundadundun]

The only reason you brought this up initially was because of that meaningless post of mine to Chill, so how can you say that it has no bearing on this? Again, you were suggesting I could do something as scum without any indication as to how it pertains to the context of the game at hand. To me it seems you just wanted names out there.

As for using the word "alliance," you originally said SCUM alliance meaning I could not have let an innocent take the fall as you described above. Unless you just felt like suggesting twice that I could be scum without any reason to do so?

let's make this easy. please provide quotes you're referring to.

 

[Fishfriend1]

It seems uncharacteristic that FF can produce such a definitive list at this point. So far, every time I try to pare the player list down to a few suspects, it just ends up running me in circles. I'm nowhere near able to pin anyone down like that yet.

If I could settle on someone specific without feeling conflicted about it, I would. And I'd have my vote placed already. Lacking an actual list, however, I don't mind sharing my thoughts.

FF is unusually well composed for his normal play this game. In his case, I don't view that as a good sign in terms of his innocence. He also says my posts scare him and no there's doubt that statement is true! LOL. Very likely, for good reason too. My posts should scare you, FF.... if you have something to hide. Looking back at the final vote count, I think FF was playing it safe leaving his early vote on Pir. It's ironic then that FF blames me for losing an innocent Pir in that case.

On Zaffy and Rich.... Of the two, it did seem Zaffy was trying to get something going early on Rich. I don't share Rich's view on Neph and wonder if he hopes to lighten the town's focus on him. There could be a sinister reason for that... or not. I'm not sure yet. I disagree with Rich's opinion that I pushed Pir over the edge. Pir managed to accomplish that quite well all by himself. But I also can't fault Rich for seeing it the way he does. Reviewing his posts, what I read seems consistent... nothing strikes me as manipulative, with his take on Neph as one possible exception. And the fact that we disagree on a few points doesn't mean we're playing on different sides.

As a general observation, I feel Neph, Bally, DD, and AAF are trying to keep a low profile. Of those 4, Neph and Bally seem most evasive. I wondered about Dun and pressed him to give us a name who he would have voted. It kinda irks me that he didn't actually give us that name but he was willing to lay out his thoughts (on record) in detail. That doesn't seem evasive or non-committal, which is what I wanted to find out when I posed the question.

Beyond this, I don't have any idea where to vote yet. I still keep going back and forth too much.

I never blamed you for his lynch, I only ever stated I feel you went after him rather strongly. Why are you twisting my words Kashta?

I didn't say I don't suspect anyone. I said I suspect everyone.

Okay, my bad. Let me rephrase that: What 4 people do you suspect most? Or perhaps: What people do you suspect more then others?

 

[Kashta]

I never blamed you for his lynch, I only ever stated I feel you went after him rather strongly. Why are you twisting my words Kashta?

Aww, the poor little thing. I hope he didn't cry. As for you, when have I NOT gone after someone strongly once I find reason to suspect them?

 

[Rbishop]

Can't we all just get along? LMAO

 

[Fishfriend1]

Aww, the poor little thing. I hope he didn't cry. As for you, when have I NOT gone after someone strongly once I find reason to suspect them?

Ah, but you even stated yourself it was unlikely he was evil, yet even as you did so you went after him like a shark after blood. And what is the first part of your post in reference to?

Can't we all just get along? LMAO

When the Scum Team surrenders we can all have a Party

 

[Rbishop]

Ah, but you even stated yourself it was unlikely he was evil, yet even as you did so you went after him like a shark after blood. And what is the first part of your post in reference to?



When the Scum Team surrenders we can all have a Party

talk about a mountain/molehill thing...