Mafia 104 - Dawg the Bounty Hunter - The Play

also... don't forget I was the only person on JB BEFORE nightfall.

I was the only person that pointed out that it was JBs suspicious activity that led the train on zaffy.

What? I know for a fact that Wiz and I had, at the very least, mentioned a possible connection between Jb and Zaffy the day right after he pulled that stunt...your drive by vote with a follow up quote of Jb's post was nothing more than piggy backing on an idea already thrown out there. You just made the decision that Jb was the "source" of all of this while others felt Zaffy was more

And do you honestly think that it was YOU who lead to a train on Zaffy? He had 2/5 votes before your Jb vote AND he'd been on the voting block every day before that, IIRC. It eventually caught up to him when he started posting excuses about not being able to keep up with the game. The connection to Jb wasn't the only reason Zaffy was voted, or at least I know that about my personal vote.

don't get too full of yourself, there JP. you're 48 hours late to the party if i'm following you. :screwy:

you're not off my radar that easy, either.

Following was probably a bad word...Yes, you voted JB yesterday but the timing of your vote right after mine does cause some pause.

These will be helpful to someone. But only someone with the right information, who throws out the first two days voting.


I'm only going to say a couple of things here, and then I'm going to largely be gone for the majority of the day.

First, anyone who says my actions led to Zaffy's lynch is overlooking the fact that there was a whole day cycle in which a bunch of you voted Zaffy. Look at the effect of my actions N3... you all had 2 (now known) innocents up for the lynch... and yet you're agitated that I introduced a third player into the mix? Be real folks. I didn't believe either FF or Zaffy were scum, so I put a third choice in there. I wanted to at least have a chance of lynching scum. I know Zaffy and FF well enough that there was no way I was falling for that. Anyone who tells you otherwise is likely to be talking about my BEHAVIOR and overlooking the effects of that behavior. Most of you guys know me well enough that you know I don't do much without reason. Even when that doesn't seem to be the case.

My vote on Kash... what can I say, I like voting for scum.


Last comment: Wiz... reread your first two posts after nightfall again. See if you can't put together a workable theory involving turns, dropped cases, and strange voting patterns.

Good luck townies... we're going to need it.

I vote to lynch Kash.
This vote won't change.

Jb, you're subtly changing your story here...in post # 646 you made absolutely no mention of not suspecting FF or Zaffy and that it influenced your vote on Dun. You said your vote was to throw in an additional person and hope the randomness went in the town's favor. Now you're making it seem like you knew FF and Zaffy were innocent...I'm sure you did, seeing as you're a pretty good bet for being scum.

So why Kash? You've all but refused to give the town anything in terms of usable information and this time doesn't seem to be any different, especially with your cryptic message directed at Wiz.
 
What? I know for a fact that Wiz and I had, at the very least, mentioned a possible connection between Jb and Zaffy the day right after he pulled that stunt...your drive by vote with a follow up quote of Jb's post was nothing more than piggy backing on an idea already thrown out there. You just made the decision that Jb was the "source" of all of this while others felt Zaffy was more

BS and you know it. nobody else was voting JB at nightfall, period. did you miss my mention of crackpot theories? guess not since there you go again with this connection thing...

tell me, pappy... exactly how was zaffy innocent... and you now suspect JB to be scum... and yet... there goes that crackpot "connection" thing again. how are they connected, pappy, how?

And do you honestly think that it was YOU who lead to a train on Zaffy? He had 2/5 votes before your Jb vote AND he'd been on the voting block every day before that, IIRC. It eventually caught up to him when he started posting excuses about not being able to keep up with the game. The connection to Jb wasn't the only reason Zaffy was voted, or at least I know that about my personal vote.

read back, pappy. it was JB that lead the train on zaffy. when he asked zaffy to vote first so he could choose. that's where this whole crackpot "connection" thing came into play. i could understand anyone who hasn't been following along, but you've been here every day. i see no excuse.

and, yes... zaffy had votes on him the whole game. he's not the only one. and that stunt by JB is what solidified it for zaffy. the train then ensued. funny thing... reading back now you can clearly see that it's very likely zaffy was being honest the whole time. JB... well, you draw your own conclusion.


Following was probably a bad word...Yes, you voted JB yesterday but the timing of your vote right after mine does cause some pause.

i can see that. not that i care. i was voted JB 48 hours prior to that. if someone can read something into that vote knowing of my prior vote, then it is what it is.


Jb, you're subtly changing your story here...in post # 646 you made absolutely no mention of not suspecting FF or Zaffy and that it influenced your vote on Dun. You said your vote was to throw in an additional person and hope the randomness went in the town's favor. Now you're making it seem like you knew FF and Zaffy were innocent...I'm sure you did, seeing as you're a pretty good bet for being scum.

So why Kash? You've all but refused to give the town anything in terms of usable information and this time doesn't seem to be any different, especially with your cryptic message directed at Wiz.
why so easy on him? what do you mean "subtly"? just noticing him changing his story now? didn't notice "some antics" before, really?

sheesh... if this is what it's become, this town is doomed. sorry guys, i tried.

i'm going back to attempting to fix or finagle these computers. i have an RMA number for my new mobo. think i'm going to need a bigger hammer for one or both of the others.

good luck fellow citizens, good luck.
 
BS and you know it. nobody else was voting JB at nightfall, period. did you miss my mention of crackpot theories? guess not since there you go again with this connection thing...

tell me, pappy... exactly how was zaffy innocent... and you now suspect JB to be scum... and yet... there goes that crackpot "connection" thing again. how are they connected, pappy, how?

Dun, first off, I think I misinterpreted what you were stating...I thought you said Zaffy was lynched because YOU were the one who pointed out the connection...apparently what you meant was that it was JB's activity that lead to Zaffy's lynch, and you pointed that out?

What I still don't like is you're making it look like you were the only one who suspected Jb and that you somehow deserve a pass for that now. Fact of the matter is that Wiz brought it up first, I also pointed things out that made me suspect he was correct, and then you came in with a drive by vote on Jb. What analysis did you provide on Jb?

I never said they were connected NOW either, so stop the twisting of what I said...like I said above, I suspected the connection before Zaf flipped innocent and did so before you ever commented on it. That is all. Obviously there's no "connection" now since Zaffy was innocent.

read back, pappy. it was JB that lead the train on zaffy. when he asked zaffy to vote first so he could choose. that's where this whole crackpot "connection" thing came into play. i could understand anyone who hasn't been following along, but you've been here every day. i see no excuse.

and, yes... zaffy had votes on him the whole game. he's not the only one. and that stunt by JB is what solidified it for zaffy. the train then ensued. funny thing... reading back now you can clearly see that it's very likely zaffy was being honest the whole time. JB... well, you draw your own conclusion.

Again, that's NOT the entire story. As I said, Zaffy had been almost voted out every day before Jb's vote stunt and he could have been N3 had Jb not thrown you into the mix as well. You really think it was Jb's actions that got Zaffy lynched? Go through and read the votes on Zaffy...

Wiz did vote because of it, no questions there
Kash voted Zaffy because of how little he had done (using my summary of his gameplay and his response)
I also voted for that reason, pointing out how detail oriented he can be except when it came to making a suspect list
Chill voted based off him not believing he couldn't keep up
Rich saw a connection. It's hard to tell exactly why he voted Zaffy but he did even before Jb did anything too.

In terms of actually getting votes, I don't see why you're so sure that Jb sealed Zaffy's fate. The majority of the votes (I'll conceded 2 of the 5) didn't reference the "connection" to Jb and it's clear to me that Zaffy's actions (rather, the lack of action) were what garnered the most votes and ultimately got him lynched.

why so easy on him? what do you mean "subtly"? just noticing him changing his story now? didn't notice "some antics" before, really?

sheesh... if this is what it's become, this town is doomed. sorry guys, i tried.

i'm going back to attempting to fix or finagle these computers. i have an RMA number for my new mobo. think i'm going to need a bigger hammer for one or both of the others.

good luck fellow citizens, good luck.

How do you even begin to see that post as me being easy on Jb? I've dug into him as hard as anyone this game, if not more. The change in his story was subtle, I don't know how you can disagree with that...but in no way does that mean I suspect him less. It's the opposite. Obviously you skimmed over what I actually said because I'm 98% sure he's scum, or as close to 100% as an innocent can get, so to speak. I think I've made that clear.
 
I voted Zaffy because I did not like how he was playing, seemed very odd for him.

This is an odd game, so far into and right now I do not think I would give anyone a pass. I could be talked into voting for any of you.

I really do not know what to think, no really compelling arguments. Did JB get Zaf lynched? I do not think so. I was going to vote that way.

Right now I do think either Dun or Pap is scum, except that this many nights in, it would be likely that Pap was turned if not already scum, you could say the same about several others playing as well.

If I had to make a final vote right now, I would probably go back to Kash, but she has done little suspicious since those early pushes.

I need a beer and a smoke.
 
This comes from a long multi-quote post, so I cropped it down.

i can see that. not that i care. i was voted JB 48 hours prior to that. if someone can read something into that vote knowing of my prior vote, then it is what it is.

Hang on.... what vote was this Dun? N1 you didn't vote at all. N2 you voted FF. N3 you voted Pappy. It was N4 that you voted JB. And with no retractions either of those days, there is no prior vote from you on JB 48 hours earlier. At best to be square with voting history you maybe considered voting JB but went with Pappy instead?

Please clarify this?
 
why all the crackpot theories and beating around the bush? why not go straight to the source? who was it that made the suspicious comment?

oh yeah, that's right... i vote to lynch JB

need i say more?

I vote to lynch JB

He's either wacko scum or wacko scum...as you can tell I think he's wacko scum.

i don't need any more time tonight.

DAWG... can we vote again tomorrow? might need time then.

i vote to lynch jb
clearly i was following pappy around...
 
I wasn't saying you were following anyone. Didn't see it that way, actually. But I think Papp said it wasn't the best choice of wording anyway, right?

If there was another vote on JB then I must have copied off a vote count somewhere that wasn't final. I need to double check them all now.
 
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