Mafia 104 - Dawg the Bounty Hunter - The Play

[jbradt]

Pappy... my story hasn't changed. I'm just talking about more of it now. You know as well as I do that even when you're innocent you don't always tell the whole truth. The fact is that no matter how out of the blue it may seem, everything I've done is what I truly thought best for my team. Believe it or not, that is up to each townie.

What I think is funny is that while Pappy and Dun argue over the most trivial things they can possibly find, both their votes rest squarely and firmly on me. Together. While they argue. Over what again? IDK, maybe it's just me.

 

[dundadundun]

Dun, first off, I think I misinterpreted what you were stating...I thought you said Zaffy was lynched because YOU were the one who pointed out the connection...apparently what you meant was that it was JB's activity that lead to Zaffy's lynch, and you pointed that out?

What I still don't like is you're making it look like you were the only one who suspected Jb and that you somehow deserve a pass for that now. Fact of the matter is that Wiz brought it up first, I also pointed things out that made me suspect he was correct, and then you came in with a drive by vote on Jb. What analysis did you provide on Jb?

I never said they were connected NOW either, so stop the twisting of what I said...like I said above, I suspected the connection before Zaf flipped innocent and did so before you ever commented on it. That is all. Obviously there's no "connection" now since Zaffy was innocent.

i tried (apparently without success) to point out that the only "connection" between JB and zaffy was JBs doing purely. we couldn't speculate as to zaffy's intentions as it seemed it was coming out as as per the conversation at the time i posted that "drive by quote" that was merely to get people to look again and realize the hole in their theory. obviously it was a failed attempt.

obviously JB was suspect, but 2 extra votes on zaffy that night can't be explained by his comment about choosing where to vote?

and i tried (miserably, but i tried) to show that Zaffy couldn't be associated to JB without flaw... and stuck to my vote on JB. nobody looked at it in any way except to question me. not a second thought from what i see...

Again, that's NOT the entire story. As I said, Zaffy had been almost voted out every day before Jb's vote stunt and he could have been N3 had Jb not thrown you into the mix as well. You really think it was Jb's actions that got Zaffy lynched? Go through and read the votes on Zaffy...

Wiz did vote because of it, no questions there
Kash voted Zaffy because of how little he had done (using my summary of his gameplay and his response)
I also voted for that reason, pointing out how detail oriented he can be except when it came to making a suspect list
Chill voted based off him not believing he couldn't keep up
Rich saw a connection. It's hard to tell exactly why he voted Zaffy but he did even before Jb did anything too.

In terms of actually getting votes, I don't see why you're so sure that Jb sealed Zaffy's fate. The majority of the votes (I'll conceded 2 of the 5) didn't reference the "connection" to Jb and it's clear to me that Zaffy's actions (rather, the lack of action) were what garnered the most votes and ultimately got him lynched.

NOT the ENTIRE story... 3 votes... 3 votes... 5 votes... read back... zaffy seems honest now, doesn't he? i've read the votes over... and over... and over again...

2 out of 5 leaves 3.... with 2 to spare to tie up any person who got at least 1 vote that night. that seals a fate as far as i'm concerned. yes, it's been on the line, but until that little stunt and the train it wasn't "sealed".

How do you even begin to see that post as me being easy on Jb? I've dug into him as hard as anyone this game, if not more. The change in his story was subtle, I don't know how you can disagree with that...but in no way does that mean I suspect him less. It's the opposite. Obviously you skimmed over what I actually said because I'm 98% sure he's scum, or as close to 100% as an innocent can get, so to speak. I think I've made that clear.

meh, maybe i'm wrong on you being easy on him. maybe i just see you giving me more heat for less reason. you obviously don't agree with that. no biggie.

i know you said: "He's either wacko scum or wacko scum...as you can tell I think he's wacko scum." i just figured you'd have more questions for him. maybe i should just watch and see, eh?

 

[dundadundun]

Pappy... my story hasn't changed. I'm just talking about more of it now. You know as well as I do that even when you're innocent you don't always tell the whole truth. The fact is that no matter how out of the blue it may seem, everything I've done is what I truly thought best for my team. Believe it or not, that is up to each townie.

What I think is funny is that while Pappy and Dun argue over the most trivial things they can possibly find, both their votes rest squarely and firmly on me. Together. While they argue. Over what again? IDK, maybe it's just me.

i have to have a suspect to vote on the next nightfall if we make it, no?

nevermind that some of the trivial things come down to your little stunt...

 

[dundadundun]

I wasn't saying you were following anyone. Didn't see it that way, actually. But I think Papp said it wasn't the best choice of wording anyway, right?

If there was another vote on JB then I must have copied off a vote count somewhere that wasn't final. I need to double check them all now.

choice of words or not, i don't need someone skimming thinking i'm pulling it out of my rear.

 

[jpappy789]

Pappy... my story hasn't changed. I'm just talking about more of it now. You know as well as I do that even when you're innocent you don't always tell the whole truth. The fact is that no matter how out of the blue it may seem, everything I've done is what I truly thought best for my team. Believe it or not, that is up to each townie.

What I think is funny is that while Pappy and Dun argue over the most trivial things they can possibly find, both their votes rest squarely and firmly on me. Together. While they argue. Over what again? IDK, maybe it's just me.

No, you changed your story...if you thought that Zaffy and FF weren't scum, then your vote on Dun becomes more explainable and you would have mentioned it rather than the crap about you just hoped it would be for the best. For you to bring it up now only serves to try and get yourself out of the current situation which is looking more and more worse for you. And I certainly believe what you are doing has been best for your team...the scum team.

Any chance you're going to reveal why you chose Kash? You've already ignored that question once.

As for me and Dun arguing, I'll admit I don't like how it's dominating the discussion right now, but he's not exactly looking golden in my eyes right now and I'm doing my best to show his scuminess to the rest of the town.

i tried (apparently without success) to point out that the only "connection" between JB and zaffy was JBs doing purely. we couldn't speculate as to zaffy's intentions as it seemed it was coming out as as per the conversation at the time i posted that "drive by quote" that was merely to get people to look again and realize the hole in their theory. obviously it was a failed attempt.

obviously JB was suspect, but 2 extra votes on zaffy that night can't be explained by his comment about choosing where to vote?

and i tried (miserably, but i tried) to show that Zaffy couldn't be associated to JB without flaw... and stuck to my vote on JB. nobody looked at it in any way except to question me. not a second thought from what i see...



NOT the ENTIRE story... 3 votes... 3 votes... 5 votes... read back... zaffy seems honest now, doesn't he? i've read the votes over... and over... and over again...

2 out of 5 leaves 3.... with 2 to spare to tie up any person who got at least 1 vote that night. that seals a fate as far as i'm concerned. yes, it's been on the line, but until that little stunt and the train it wasn't "sealed".


meh, maybe i'm wrong on you being easy on him. maybe i just see you giving me more heat for less reason. you obviously don't agree with that. no biggie.

i know you said: "He's either wacko scum or wacko scum...as you can tell I think he's wacko scum." i just figured you'd have more questions for him. maybe i should just watch and see, eh?

Whatever you were trying to get across concerning your vote on Jb was certainly lost on me.

Rich just said his vote had nothing to do with Jb, so that really just leaves Wiz's vote. Even if you assume he wouldn't have voted Zaffy had Jb not made that post, the vote count would have still been against Zaffy.

I've questioned Jb a lot this game. I can't understand how you expect me to do it any more. You've been spewing more questionable posts as of late.

 

[dundadundun]

let us not forget, there are other players in the game...

List of players:

AAF
JPap
JB
Chill
RB
Wiz
Kash
Dun
Rich

Game On!!

Next nightfall is up for debate. 24hrs or 48hrs...majority rules.

and i for one would really appreciate some input from all of them. for all i know i could be fighting a losing battle surrounded by scum.

 

[Kashta]

choice of words or not, i don't need someone skimming thinking i'm pulling it out of my rear.

Perhaps not, but keep the attitude where it is and you can guess where I suggest you put it.

I figured out the confusion on that point btw. You and Pappy are arguing about today's vote while I was looking at previous night votes.

Nevermind.

 

[dundadundun]

As for me and Dun arguing, I'll admit I don't like how it's dominating the discussion right now, but he's not exactly looking golden in my eyes right now and I'm doing my best to show his scuminess to the rest of the town.

i'm gonna let that shot go for now since i've been getting mine in as well.

Whatever you were trying to get across concerning your vote on Jb was certainly lost on me.

then i'm sorry about that. i'll have to take that into account from now on.

Rich just said his vote had nothing to do with Jb, so that really just leaves Wiz's vote. Even if you assume he wouldn't have voted Zaffy had Jb not made that post, the vote count would have still been against Zaffy.

what people say and how they're psychologically effected are rarely connected IME. i understand giving a reason... and believing that reason... but maybe that reason held more weight because of the effects of another reason? think that's possible? i mean... i don't exactly normally believe 2 concurrent statements in this game anyway. would that be a far stretch from the realm in which this game lies?

I've questioned Jb a lot this game. I can't understand how you expect me to do it any more. You've been spewing more questionable posts as of late.

jb aside... anything posted in this game is questionable. i've been posting more again, therefore, yes, there's more to question.

 

[rich311k]

let us not forget, there are other players in the game...

and i for one would really appreciate some input from all of them. for all i know i could be fighting a losing battle surrounded by scum.

or you are fighting a winning battle surrounded by scum. Can I borrow an ice cube?

 

[dundadundun]

Perhaps not, but keep the attitude where it is and you can guess where I suggest you put it.

I figured out the confusion on that point btw. You and Pappy are arguing about today's vote while I was looking at previous night votes.

Nevermind.

didn't mean to come off that way, kash. i meant what i said, but not in relation to your question. i don't want people skimming thinking i'm pulling anything about the votes out my rear... so i posted them in the order they were placed. that's what it meant.