Mafia 105: Finding Bigfoot The Game!

allaboutfish said:
i vote to lynch neph mostly a gut feeling on the way hes posting. This is subject to change.


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I wish you could be more specific. The way you couldn't explain what was off about my posts and now that it is still a gut feeling and you can't point out any one thing really makes me wonder. The first conclusion I'm drawing is that, somehow, you know who I am or something but can't come up with something concrete to toss in my direction. I feel like you'd be trying a lot harder to get people on the wagon if that was the case though so you're still a mystery to me.

But a gut feel this far into the game with all that has happened and all the posting I've done (not to mention my unwarranted posts about me and pap based on Ice's conclusion about the double vote) and you can't muster anything significant.... it stinks... like trees and dirt... (yeah I know that wasn't a witty last line but I was having a hard time coming up with something lol)

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Piranha86 said:
You've followed him on a few things, and neither of you have outright attacked each other, but you've both had minor accusations about the other that looks like distancing. I think I'm being pretty clear with what I am saying right now, and you are being more confusing to the town, IMO.
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I couldn't disagree more since I don't see how you could come to these conclusions. I may have followed him on something (I can't remember what though) but that would be because he probably had a good idea. I also pointed out what I think is scummy about him and have voted for him twice which doesn't seem very minor to me. I understand you didn't see the second vote until you posted but you're still following the same line of reasoning like you won't accept any new information.

I feel like you're totally projecting this confusion issue onto me. Besides the double vote issue after ice pointed it out which did not continue when I found out I was wrong and which I rectified I have been clear and concise on all points and have voiced every opinion I've had whereas you've said I'm not making sense and I'm confusing the town but have nothing specific on the matter.

Maybe it's because I haven't played a lot of games or maybe it's because I'm starting to learn more but I feel like some people are sitting in the background not adding much behind a few thoughts and hardly digging because the town is starting to tear itself apart. Is it possible that me, you, and ice are all townies sitting here digging at each other while the hippies in the scum den are laughing at us? That seems kind of in left field but I try to offer any thoughts I have because you never know what someone else may come up with after reading someone else's thoughts/ideas

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Nepherael said:
I couldn't disagree more since I don't see how you could come to these conclusions. I may have followed him on something (I can't remember what though) but that would be because he probably had a good idea. I also pointed out what I think is scummy about him and have voted for him twice which doesn't seem very minor to me. I understand you didn't see the second vote until you posted but you're still following the same line of reasoning like you won't accept any new information.
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These things are pretty commonplace when one is in a scum den. I just don't see the accusations you've made against him as being purely because of his actions. It just looks like distancing to me.
Nepherael said:
I feel like you're totally projecting this confusion issue onto me. Besides the double vote issue after ice pointed it out which did not continue when I found out I was wrong and which I rectified I have been clear and concise on all points and have voiced every opinion I've had whereas you've said I'm not making sense and I'm confusing the town but have nothing specific on the matter.
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I don't think the town is all that confused. You said I was trying to confuse the town, while you post and post and post and change your opinions seemingly each time.
Nepherael said:
Maybe it's because I haven't played a lot of games or maybe it's because I'm starting to learn more but I feel like some people are sitting in the background not adding much behind a few thoughts and hardly digging because the town is starting to tear itself apart. Is it possible that me, you, and ice are all townies sitting here digging at each other while the hippies in the scum den are laughing at us? That seems kind of in left field but I try to offer any thoughts I have because you never know what someone else may come up with after reading someone else's thoughts/ideas
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There are definitely people in the background. Whether it is on purpose or not, I have no idea. Totally understandable if stuff is going on in real life, but i'm sure that some of the quiet ones are scum. I think that tonight will help clear a lot of things up, no matter which way it goes.
 
jpappy789 said:
I wanted to make sure I could say this before saying it in case Zaffy considered it an RC.

I didn't receive the double vote nor do I know Neph's role.

The write up by Zaffy makes it seem like there was a tie, but the only way this whole thing works is that whomever got Neph's invest/double vote was on Lab. So in reality the coin flip didn't determine anything, Lab outright won the lynch. That by itself means nothing because it could have been any of them and we only know Jb's role. Since no one can say they got the vote, it really really means nothing.

If I knew Neph was evil you bet I would place a vote there right now and would have actually done so as soon as it was pointed out that I could/should have gotten the vote/invest. But the truth is I have no idea and that's why my response to Ice was that I only know Neph couldn't have received the double, but now I can say that I didn't either. I think the people who are jumping to these conclusions need to reevaluate this situation and just slow down before voting either of us.
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I guess I'll take your word for it as I've pretty much written you off as innocent. Another thing that bothered me about my thought was why you would sit on Pir and waste the double vote.

Piranha86 said:
JPap's right.


Blob - Pir(96) Chill(190) AAF(209) Lab(231)
AAF - Neph(119)Ice(161)
Ice - Neph(153) Lab(180)
Pir - Jpappy(194) Blob(211)
Lab - Ice(212) JB(214) ssuchem(218) Blob(232)

AAF had no votes, Ice's only vote was from Neph, and my vote was from JPap, who supposedly didn't get his vote doubled. I say supposedly not to be accusatory, but just because we don't know for sure. If he is telling the truth (and I have a feeling he is), that means either Ice's, JB's, ssuchem's, or Blob's vote was doubled. So at least one of them is the team opposing Neph. JB was crypto and did not poke at Neph too much, so we can probably assume that JB did not investigate Neph, or did and found him as an innocent.

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If JB got the double vote he would know Neph was scum. At the same time he being a PR,which we now know, wouldn't want to go right after Neph especially since the main threat Rich is gone. Going after Neph could tip off BF that he was an innocent and get himself hit. If JB got the double I could see him using it to make sure Lab went home as she is a big threat. Especially since he placed his vote after I did making sure it wouldn't be wasted and putting her tied with blob with an hr left. Then Lab moved to blob and blob to lab.

Piranha86 said:
There are definitely people in the background. Whether it is on purpose or not, I have no idea. Totally understandable if stuff is going on in real life, but i'm sure that some of the quiet ones are scum. I think that tonight will help clear a lot of things up, no matter which way it goes.
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So some of the quiet ones are scum but you list me, Neph and Jpap as the most likely to be scum on your list and we've been the most vocal.





I still feel Neph is scum, his wavering on thoughts is like a flag in the wind. Seems he wants to follow the flow instead of find his own suspects so my vote stays put for now.
 
Piranha86 said:
I guess this is a little hypocritical, considering what I said to Ice earlier. It's just weird that nobody has posted in 5 hours...
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LOL sorry just got home from a day of drinking with a friend, its a Saturday ritual. Madden plus beer = relaxing day away from family.
 
Since we're making lists

Neph- I don't like that the slightest idea sends him off into a total different direction than he was heading

AAF- The entire game has had me thinking he is scum

Blob- Not sharing info with the town and even after being told its wrong continues to do it.

Chill- not enough participation, could be RL or could just being letting us kill ourselves off

Chem- I have nothing on him at all, posts more then Chill,who hasn't, but nothing that seems scummy except maybe coat tail riding some.

Pir- After the 1st night fall he had me wondering but nothing since then has tipped him further towards scummy,except maybe his last post lol

Jpap- I see nothing, if anything we agree on things more then I like but there isn't anything scummy about that
 
I'd vote any of the top 3 if needed to push them over the top in votes.
 
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