Mafia #12

[ZSandmann]

Dang it JL I want to trust you but you are being so dang stubborn.

 

[ZSandmann]

I don't currently see anyone as being 100% mafia with what little has been posted. There have been some semantic arguements, but no real solid slip ups from what I read.

I think mee-mee is just being her current norm. The last few games she seems a bit distracted and usually seems to be lynched out quickly for them. I am willing to give her a pass for now.

The DD/Ice thing...It has possibilities, but the last two games both started with 2 or three little wars going on during Day 1/2. I will have to wait and see what develops.

As in my post #153, I am watching the same few, just from the standpoint of their past play.

I do believe we need to provoke some responses to get folks involved and without any multi quoting or twisting of meanings, my best thoughts now are...

jpap
charlie
lady

I vote to lynch Lady G

Everything being said here is proven wrong by game events.

Below Charlie said RB was protecting Mee-Mee.

Nope, just an observation from modding the last two games, Charlie. Her actions are consistent with her recent actions in those games.



Swayde, the "list" wasn't any certain order, and Lady has posted a bit more than the other two...so there is a bit more to develop a gut feel. My vote will probably change as the day goes on if more info becomes available or we pull together as a town and stop having our votes spread across so many choices.

Swayde questions why he suspects Lagy G.

I like hook's train of thought in post 535.

Staying with my orginal thoughts (153/240) and modifying for events since then,

CS...higher than before and wish we could here more from the door buster...

jpap, purely very good at hiding and am concerned as are others

plantling...I am adding for the voting issue and they now have an excuse of a 1 yr old re-programming the 'puter...

sovran is of concern....but doesn't seem to hold to much concern right now compared to the others above.

plant...you might want to read my post 523....at that time you and sov had the same number of posts for the game...not sure why you can have that as very little posting and a negative for sov, when you are in the same boat...

I have had the pleasure of watching youngsters doing amazing things...we have three sons, though now all grown and out on their own. I didn't mean to misjudge his age, I was just going by what you posted about your technical difficulties. They definitely can be inquisitive at that age! :grinyes: I find it odd that you would assume I have not had that pleasure....

Going after plantling and Sovran.

Now that plantling has my curiosity peaked....

all on 10/4.....

post 37 11:30 AM she says hello and be back later

post 82 remarks about the sleeping and cats
post 85 jpap's work scedule
post 96 tells swayde to vote for themself
post 99 jokes with ewurm and about wishy washy voting

the above 4 about the 8-9 PM time frame

post 116 11 PM no heart to vote jpap

from 10/5....

post 139 questions jpap volunteering and low posters, but admits she is a low poster...?

post 185 talks DD/Ice, says they will vote jp/jl/king

from 10/6...

post 255 talks screen names, stero and says she wasn't going to vote jpap...pits a vote on sov..to draw her out (low post issue, again..?)

post 260 back to screen names

post 406 needs to catch up on things...her vote may be wasted...7 PM or so Sat night

476 vote change off of siv to lady....

I guess she has a few more posts than sov, but they are not really that helpful..sort of let me hide in the middle and act concerned.


plantling now moves to replace jpap on my list of those to watch out for...

You obviously didn't find any substance in my posts, but if you or others go back and really read them you would see I was asking pple questions trying to get answers. I prefer the subtle method as opposed to the in your face questions that get people's heckles raised more than answers.

It appears you are a tad bit protective of Sovran. Is there a reason?[/quote]

Nope, not protective of anyone except myself. It is just a comparison of post counts and what I feel is substantive in them, plant.

Content in a post is up to each one's descretion, but calling someone out solely on quantity is up to criticism. Sovran could just as easily be distracted with personal issues personal issues as you allude to. Thats all.

For right now, I will set a vote, that is highly likely to change, until we hear more.

With this being a football excuse day like last week, it doesn't appear there is going to be a lot of activity. Especially with nightfall just at 9 PM cst tomorrow. Everything will happen quickly around the football scedule which normally includes a Monday night game. Could be lots of late voting with little foundation. The sooner we vote, the more chance for discussion.

I vote to lynch Charlie_stubbs...

Plant...don't turn this into an arguement between you and me. I regret the loss of any Townie, and I make my votes early, not jump on a train with 50 minutes left to go in the day and blame things on technical difficulties.

I did go over her and your posts, they were both just an accumalation of jokes with out any substance. You yourself never really gave a list...said you vote one of 3, voted for someone else then did a late switch...despite Sov's lack of your posts, they made a call and stuck beside it, without saying one thing and doing two others...

Looks like some activity finally happened...I hate football season, though it is easier to get onto the restaurants with everybody staying home on Sunday.



Interesting to note that charlie and Sov both come on right after one another in a 6 minute time span...could be just a fluke...

For the record, I thought DD's original post to Sov was just some helpful advice...

And where is mee-mee...? She hasn't been on since Saturday night....

If charlie comes up with some good info, I'd be willing to consider a vote switch, but time is running out for day 2. It will be a short time between getting off work today and night fall.

Now he is wondering about MM and still stuck on sov.

Okay charlie...you bought another night, with ewurm's help.

I agree with hooked, judge has got to go. A mafia with laying low or a Townie with no courage to stand behind a vote early enough to have to defend it.

I retract vote on charlie and vote to lynch Judgemax..

I say every one in town needs to choose between charlie and ewurm...3 of the 4 folks who have votes on others are all watching right now. Sov isn't...and mee-mee is apparently a no show...what's it gonna be DD and charlie...?

Vote was still on JM.

So why is your vote still on JM? And I find it a tad fishy that DD changed her vote not long after RB posted this. Things that make you go hmmmmm.

sure, put the pressure on the Daddy....

I unvote judgemax and vote to lynch charlie...

train...what train, charlie is back where he was 4 hrs ago...

boy talk about some twisting of words....

Somebody wake up Ogre, IT IS NIGHT!

Wants Night to hurry up.

I cant take this anymore, if I vote no one, would you all hate me, lmao?...

No, but I would request you go experience an untimely death...

What an awesome night 2! Better than any TV show.

I'll go for the 24 hr days, but that will mean just a few minutes in the morning like now and the same in the evening, won't be able to stay up for the nightfall. Ogre, ever think about moving back to the EST zone...?

Going to keep my vote where it ended last night....

I vote to lynch judgemax...

But it ended on Charlie, which he never tries to explain or apologize for.

Make sure you point out how I had been on CS earlier then pulled off with input from HN, then went back just to get some unity in this town. I guess I could have stayed where I was and caused Ogre to leave things to a coin flip. Then you would be screaming I wasted my vote since no one else was voting JM at the time. There were 3 or 4 of you that jumped on cs after my original vote on him in post 583. I suggest you go entertain yourself with them.

Of course I discouraged JM from voting for no one. Or do you think a vote for no one helps the town...?

Sarcasm.

ewurm is just another guppyguppyfish or whack-o mee-mee in their postings, with little substance.

Hooked suckered DD and me into putting votes on CS. It is my fault for being the last, but otherwise you would have Ogre make the decision with a flip of a coin. Maybe that would make it better if it happened that way, so you could say "it wasn't me"...?

It's a game folks...the people didn't really die....no need to act in a grieving manner..they will be back for "The Witches Of ACville...Mafia #13"...


I retract my vote for Judge....and vote to lynch Hooked..

But the day before he agreed with everything HN said.

So you are the self proclaimed Mayor of Acville....? I see one person (not you) throwing out an idea and everyone following blindly. Half the town left questions your stance...read what you want in to it, mafia normally do.

DD...you will be making another set of apologies, as you did to CS.

Hammering hard on DD and HN

Good question, Z.....wonder how fast others can re-read the posts and come to their own conclusions without being led by one or , well, maybe two...

My macho background...I don't believe in that touchy feely crap and people being offended..get over it.

Nope..it only takes yourself to have a family...all the rest is window dressing.

He only answered my questions with questions and silly answers.

 

[ZSandmann]

If I didn't know better I'd think there were three teams in this game

Team Town: Vote Rb
Team HN: Vote JM
Team JL: Vote Sovran

But here is the solid truth, if HN IS the Detective the Mafia is going to hit him tonight. I would not want to be the Doctor.

 

[ZSandmann]

Votes:
3-RB: Swayde, ZSandmann, DangerDoll
1-HN: Sovran
2-Sovran: JohnLarson, JudgeMax
1-JM: Hooked Newbie

Rbishop has not voted.

This isn't going to work folks. We will definately be seeing some votes slide around. To DD and Swayde: I would really like your opinions of HN. If we believe him we have to vote JM tonight.

 

[ZSandmann]

Thinking it through, we must vote for either HN or JM tonight. Jl if you call BS on Hooked, then you should vote for him tonight. I don't see why you would vote on an assumption that Sovran is Mafia if you don't believe HN.

 

[ZSandmann]

How is JL still watching the thread if he is on a plane?

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Are you guys serious?

1) Regardless of if there are 2 or 3 Mafia left the Innocnets can not split their votes. Period.

2) HN I want to believe you, but why would you come out today? I do in fact think JM is Mafia.

I really don't think JL is Mafia but how can you not see Rb looks hella Mafia.

Arg this is nuts guys. Why 7 hours before Night?

I really didn't want to, but I started getting a weird feel for JL and think his hammering on Ewurm's list may be per plan if he's mafia. I will vote for plan Rb or Judgemax depending on consensus, but I'd prefer to lynch a known mafia, hope the Doc is on their toes, and get an investigation in. Town's call.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

convenient, ...your not making yourself look very good at all...:shakehead:

Actually it was very inconvenient and I'm really not concerned about YOUR opinion anymore. Sorry.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Correct me if I am wrong but in the game rules there is no mention that the Mafia gets investigations this round. I don't think they can know anything other than who is Innocent. The up side of this statement by you is that it pretty much solidifies for me that you are an Innocent.

Now explain to me why everyone is voting Sovran suddenly. I didn't read as much into Sovran's comment to Ewurm as everyone else is apparently. I think it is a very bad idea to change our pick mid-day, but now JL has forced our hand. I think he is Innocnet frankly and now he is gone till after night.

There are 8 of us left, and either 2 or 3 Mafia. That gives us 1 person over them worst case scenario with JL out of the picture. If we believe HN we should all vote JudgeMax. If you believe Ewurm (THE FREAKIN' DON) you should vote HN or Sovran, if you want to stick to the Town's original plan you should vote Rb. That is too many ways to vote! The Mafia will be able to outvote us.

This is what concerns me. I suspect her sure, but there's been what I perceive to be a desperate shift from esterday's plan.

 

[Swayde]

At this point, I trust HN more than I do JL. I may be crazy for it, we'll see. I'm going with instinct right about now and have a feeling HN is telling the truth. I'm still kind of worried about that timing and all though and I still am convinced that RB is mafia. Could JL and HN be a team, sure, but I think the real detective would have spoken up by now, it's clearly not JM, I know it's not me and it doesn't seem to be DD or Z, it could be RB, but if HN was mafia that would be truly stupid to do that because RB would likely be getting lynched, all he'd have to do is place his vote. If it was Sovran, I think she would have spilled it by now and if it was JL, well don't think HN would have been so stupid again as to claim it when it's not him especially if he had any thought that it could be the person taunting him to come out.

ALl that really does make sense to me, but I just woke up from a nap so if it's fuzzy logic, sorry.