Mafia 17: Vampires

[Blueiz]

Glad to see someone else has noticed this! I am really inclined to think there is a connection between Rb and Blue, I could be wrong about that but I just can't shake that feeling, the way she "saw his point" then they both voted the same person, neither of them for Kuhli or Rb the two highest "suspects" (of coarse Rb wasn't going to vote himself), but he was "on" Kuhli the entire first day, and really I could see Ice picking Blue as LV, and her picking RB as her minion.
Then there is Jo, which both Blue and Rb voted for...this is the only thing making me not see him, unless their vote was on him because they knew he wasn't going to be lynched and they were distancing so they could "pick" him. My problem to seeing Jo as innocent is, that was his claim to fame last game he was posting soooo much, and when he is evil he doesn't (his words not mine). He said himself when he is on the "bad" side he lay's low. With those words ringing in my head along w/ his lack of posts this game it is hard not to suspect him.
Charlie, his vote was also on Jo, (funny how all this revolves around Jo)..but anyway his post about Rb right before nightfall really bothers me, it just seems he was building a case and then just left it, I can't help but feel there was a reason for it.
Now I know Blue "defended" DD before when Blue was mafia and DD was innocent. So this leaves me to wonder about her "defense" to Rb..like she was trying to connect herself to an "innocent" that could be lynched that night. I know I said this before but it was brought out I was only on Blue b/c of her question to Jpap...I want it to be clear that was NOT the only thing bothering me about her, it is her entire play style.
So I see these as possible LV & Minion
Blue-Rb
Blue-Jo
Blue-Chaz
I could highly see Blue/Rb or Blue/Chaz...voting Jo to distance, for a turn victim. They vote him so it looks like they suspect him, then change him thinking there would be no connection to him b/c they voted him.
Just throwing some thoughts around here.

Unless Im having a complete lapse in memory, I have not voted for anyone but fungi Lady G..Why are you saying I voted for jo?

To add to my above post, Lady G, your whole lengthy post is trying to tie RB, me and Charlie together, andi its based on a lie. Why? Looks to me like you would have your facts straight before takiing the time to make such a long post.

There is no lie Blue, and no not tying all three of you together. Talk about needing to get facts straight

Show me where I voted for jo Lady g.

Yeah, it was Fungi, sorry everyone...they all voted Fungi. It was Jo's vote on Kuhli that he was soooo mad that wasn't retracted sticking in my head. That was what had me thinking about Jo, also the fact it was posted by Ice you had to retract or the new vote wouldn't count and then Jo got mad that his wasn't retracted...DUH, ok bring on the mob now for this one:drool: Still the point is they voted for the same person that was not on the chopping block, so why single out others who didn't vote for them either.
Not a lie blue, just a mis thought.

My tops still stand, and my thoughts of LV, minion are still valid. I just had to many thoughts going at once. I didn't mean to mis represent what was posted and I am sorry guy's.

I realize that Plant, I had a lot of thoughts running through my mind at the time. I know that is not really a "excuse" but it's what happened. No, I think your vote on Jo was founded...since a innocent was lynched I don't see as to how it was "wasted" though.

I vote to stick a stake in Lady G. (may change, doubtful)

Lady G has twisted what I, an innocent has said, and lied about who I have voted for to get others to follow her. After being caught in the lie she acted as tho it was just a misthought. She has taken my questions and thoughts concerning others and turned them as me not doing anything to help the town.

If everyone cares to look here and see that DD has not been defending me, she has been looking at the facts and calling LadyG out on her antics.

As innocents we should be looking at facts, not making things up to suit what we want to see. I believe that is what innocents are doing, therefore my vote is on Lady G. With thoughts along the same lines as this, Jpappy and Atnixon ran a close second in having my vote. I believe that Jpappy is following Lady G, and Atnixon is twisting things the same as Lady G has.

 

[Blueiz]

To add to my post, those are my top 3 suspicions ATM.

 

[Lady G]

Have to say this is GREAT, no all of us have dolls...I love it, nice doll Blue!!

I vote to stick a stake in Lady G. (may change, doubtful)

Lady G has twisted what I, an innocent has said, and lied about who I have voted for to get others to follow her. After being caught in the lie she acted as tho it was just a misthought. She has taken my questions and thoughts concerning others and turned them as me not doing anything to help the town.

If everyone cares to look here and see that DD has not been defending me, she has been looking at the facts and calling LadyG out on her antics.

As innocents we should be looking at facts, not making things up to suit what we want to see. I believe that is what innocents are doing, therefore my vote is on Lady G. With thoughts along the same lines as this, Jpappy and Atnixon ran a close second in having my vote. I believe that Jpappy is following Lady G, and Atnixon is twisting things the same as Lady G has.

Really, Blue I haven't "twisted" anything...yes I stated the wrong vote name, and I admitted that, apologized and posted what happened.

DD has been defending you Blue, that is a fact also.

Yes, we should be looking at facts, I have been that is why I think you are a vamp...maybe LV at that.

Kinda funny how the ones you find suspicious are the ones suspicious of you, oops forgot to add Clown to your list!

 

[Lady G]

Here is a vote tally, if any mistakes post em please!

Jo(1)-Jo, Fungi

LG(2)-Fungi, Blue

RB (2)-JL, HN

Blue(3)-LG, Jpap, CL

HN(1)-Jmax

Niko(2)-Plant, RB, Chaz

Andi(1)-Chaz

 

[Lady G]

edit: For those who do not know the red is retracted votes.

 

[Lady G]

I had a kinda funny thought and wanted to share. Notice there are 3 mods up for lynching...wouldn't that be a kick if we had an all mod Vamp team!!!!

 

[Lady G]

LOL jpap, honestly, do you have that many blonde moments. Ill expalin my post for you. The knowns in ths game are that there are two vamps. The post i made stating that the four were "on there own" meant that they were not following the train. If you will read my post referring to that thouroughly you will see where i stated that I did not believe that the two vamps voted for the same person, I did NOT say that the two vamps were not amongst the four that I listed.

Really..please read what I post more thoroughly, by jumping on the defense without reading thoroughly what is posted, you really are making yourself look really guilty.

I see lady g and jpap are again together in there thinking, much like yesterday concerning me. Anyone else see a trend forming here between jpap and lady g?

But, Blue in the above post you stated you didn't think the 2 vamps voted together....then how could Pap and I be forming a "trend" we voted the same person??

My thoughts regarding those that voted to lynch kuhli are.. I dont believe either at least on of the vamps voted for him. I dont think that both vaps would have as this would have attracted attention to them both. I dont think the lead vamp did simply becaue they new that when kuhli was found to beinnocent we would scrutinize the ones that voted for him and they would not want this attention on themselves.

I am inclined to lean towards JM, LG, jpap or Plant being LV, this is a feeling based on the way the voting went. Seems those four were basically "on there own" voting for those that didnt have many votes so it would not look like they were folowing a "train"...

Jpap and LG are sticking out to me at the moment because of the way the two jumped on me over a simple question that I asked regarding Jpaps post.

Atnixon has raised a level on my suspicion because of his need to twist the post made by charlie, just why would that be done? Why would someone want to twist the words of another to make them look guilty? If twisting words is all that is had to go on...theres not much to be held in that.

Really I have 2 questions here first...what exactly were you saying with that first highlighted sentence. I looks like you were saying you don't think either voted and you think at least one voted, but not really sure, could you tell me?
Again you say you don't think both Vamps voted the same...then the vamps CAN"T be me and Pap!!

Here you had to ask Pap THREE times the same question.

I read both of your posts jpap, hence the rason I asked why you posted the second one as an after thought to the first one.

If you wll so kindlu go back and look I was asking you to expalin why you felt the need to make the post in queston, as an after thought to the one you posted directly before that....

Jpappy, why the need to expaliin yourself with no one asking why its been so late since you hav eposted? And why post your explanation as an after thought?

It wasn't an explanation as to why its been so long since I posted blue. If you read my entire post it was telling people why I am on during the day, when I usually am at school.

I did it because last game niko asked why I dont post during the day or something like that and I have said it enough during past games for people to point it out so I saved them the trouble.

He answered you the first time Blue....why keep asking???

 

[Fungi]

Can i ask why your not posting your own thoughts rather than quoting and agreeing with everyone else?

My thoughts exactly, Niko, instead of drawing from her own measly resovior of quotable posts to support her opinion, she instead draws parallel ones from other players, would this suggest a possible linkage between Andi, CL and Plant? Perhaps, but I'd prefer to stick to the andi/johnlarson one... I'll repeat it as many times as I need to get a reaction from either party.

Is someone pulling your strings Andi? when asked what "your" thoughts are and you just post someones and say "I agree" starts to sound like someone is pulling your strings...

Same again here, for once Niko might be on to something and have a substantial case (rather than simply stating and re-stating that his case is strong and well-founded)

Andi sleeps at night, got to work at 7:50am and took me that long to read through all the post....lol, and was baking last night

No Strings, what was stated above followed with my logical suspect list of Niko, Fungi, and CL.
Planting post showed logical suspicion of Niko.
Fungi looked to be falling in to the trap that our innocent had of appearing guilty while innocent.
CL - I had not seen enough evidence to go with guilty or innocent

So how would that justify in any way your selection of me in the top three suspects? If I'm looking to go the way of the late Kuhli. A. Loach why should you pounce on the chance to lynch me as another innocent?

Ok reasons for people who were on my list last night:
niko-seemed to have gained a lot of confidence from last game (just my observation) yet a lot of his arguments do not really hold up, especially the ones against plant
I think Niko may have just been unfortunate in picking a fight with plant, she's a wily one, she is. But there's a grain of truth in every tale, I'll go back through both plant and niko's posts if this thread doesn't get too long
jm-the "argument" with hn is quite odd, even more so than hn ans rb's, and she later says it was all a joke even though she initially started it with a vote on hn that is still there
jo-the blow up yesterday, though not sure if he is just a frustratde innocent or a frustrated vamp That's what I'm beginning to think the situation was, however he still hasn't posted in that time since and his vote still remains on his own head, which is illogical, however I believe Lady G to be a more convincing suspect.
DD- the defense of blue, though not a strong case. I would have to have moe on DD before I could place a vote

/// Game off

Am out for a while tonight.....Going to watch England play the last football ( soccer ) match in the qualifying stages for Euro2008....We gotta win this game or we are out off the comp....COME ON THE LADS.....

/// Game On

Good luck to England I hope they make it through

I had a kinda funny thought and wanted to share. Notice there are 3 mods up for lynching...wouldn't that be a kick if we had an all mod Vamp team!!!!

The mods aren't likely to buddy-up, I don't think, they'd be a power-house if they did but since they all are active players there's far too much collective attention on them, odds are a mod is likely to be lynched in the next two nights (Niko, rb or DD are all soaking up the attention for many of the wrong reasons)

 

[Fungi]

Something's happened with the first two multi-quotes in the above post, they've been incorrectly attributed to the wrong players, the first one was from Niko, the second from Andi... just thought you'd ought to know.

 

[Blueiz]

But, Blue in the above post you stated you didn't think the 2 vamps voted together....then how could Pap and I be forming a "trend" we voted the same person??


Really I have 2 questions here first...what exactly were you saying with that first highlighted sentence. I looks like you were saying you don't think either voted and you think at least one voted, but not really sure, could you tell me?
Again you say you don't think both Vamps voted the same...then the vamps CAN"T be me and Pap!!

Here you had to ask Pap THREE times the same question.







He answered you the first time Blue....why keep asking???

I was not asking why he hadnt posted, whatever, that was in his post, as I said, I was asking why he posted why he wasnt here as an after thought. Why do YOU keep bringing this up? Cant You read? Pick my thoughts apart if you like. I post what I think at the time I think it, just because I throw something out there as a THOUGHT does not mean thats how it actaully is.

You being all over me for NOTHING, and trying to prove me a vampire through twisting and lying is OLD. I am innocent, as you know, that is why you continue this charade, to make sure that everyone "follows" you and believes you, to cut down the number of innocents that the vamps have to deal with.

Really LG, find something new to harp on.