Mafia 17: Vampires

judgemax said:
here, I will even help you all..these are my actual thoughts, I think andi is suspicious, shes getting to far, by herself,. as a newb, she has to be getting help..sorry..
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JM...you have not really been on my radar ( i dont recall ) in this game. For an experienced player you really do seem to be laying low and only saying bits to keep yourself in the shadier parts of the lime light...i find this a little odd..i would of thought you would be doing more to help rid the town of vamps..

andi872 said:
Andi has rpg'd since she was 13, she is now gasp 35, she also grew up in a gaming household, my grandparents Use to help organize Dragon COM in atlanta ga, I promise I'm not getting help:)
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Well....there is your perfect cover story Andi...12 Years of playing RPG games, ever likely you sliding along easily without any bumps along the way...you good...real good...Your right, i dont believe you are getting any help, i dont think you need it...
 
Then, that also brings me to Pap. He also knows how I can take something and run like crazy with it when I think I'm right on something. Did he start that with Blue, knowing I would defend him, at that point I had already stated I thought Blue was Vamp. No, I don't mean did he make the whole reason he was home post b/c of that, but when I defended him. I'm sure he knew as soon as he voted her I would defend him all the way, which in turn would come back on myself.
This one I'm not really completely sold on at this point, it is just a thought that went through my head when Blue came up innocent, and he has already put blame my way because of her death. Which yes, I do take full blame for, BUT it is also a perfect way for the vampires to get me lynched also. I think we need to look at those who joined me in her lynching. Yes, I started it, but I did not finish her lynching...someone else who KNEW she was innocent was there.
 
clown-lover said:
Ok so go back pre-Blue death.. What made you think LadyG is a vamp? Thats what I'm looking for.. You obviously have found something in her postings that made you want to vote for her what is it?? What am I missing?
All of those extracts I dredged back up for you were pre-Blue death, I've forgotten the exact reasons as I type this (watching a video at the same time... pausing it now) but they're pretty clear, I should've probably included the quotes from Lady G herself, so that could give some context to my opinion. I don't want to backtrack too much because whilst there's still information to glean, it's very time-consuming. Please continue your own research rather than getting me to do it for you next time.
While Blue is now gone and that does raise my suspicions of her simply due to the train forming etc... What were the things that made you vote for her??? You see above average intelligence here and while I'm not a scmuck at these games I would like to see a little more as to what cause this vote.. Like I said what am I missing??
Your own above-average intelligence? I'm not trying to cast you as a vamp, but can you please clarify what you meant by that sentence?
Case in point...


What is leading you to this conclusion? Gut feel or is there something I missed????
As in the quotes, it was a small point of disjunction that I believe I caught her out on, which led to a thought-process and later to the vote
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I'm still not wholly convinced of Niko's guilt, I'm not going to jump on the Niko train quite yet until I'm assured that he is a vampire, my vote's sticking with Lady G... to answer your question it's about 35% facts, 65% not so much 'gut' feeling, but a continued sense that the way she's conducting herself is a facade.
 
atnixon said:
JM...you have not really been on my radar ( i dont recall ) in this game. For an experienced player you really do seem to be laying low and only saying bits to keep yourself in the shadier parts of the lime light...i find this a little odd..i would of thought you would be doing more to help rid the town of vamps..



Well....there is your perfect cover story Andi...12 Years of playing RPG games, ever likely you sliding along easily without any bumps along the way...you good...real good...Your right, i dont believe you are getting any help, i dont think you need it...
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With that much experience, she could be leading the vamps on to a win, easily. No one knew her experience at the time of sign up (I don't think), she would of been a great candiate for a newb "turn" then surprised them with tactics. Hmmmm
 
Lady G said:
Then, that also brings me to Pap. He also knows how I can take something and run like crazy with it when I think I'm right on something. Did he start that with Blue, knowing I would defend him, at that point I had already stated I thought Blue was Vamp. No, I don't mean did he make the whole reason he was home post b/c of that, but when I defended him. I'm sure he knew as soon as he voted her I would defend him all the way, which in turn would come back on myself.
As always, it takes two to tango, there's some give and take in the link between you and Papi, yet he's determined to tell us that you two are not allied. This appears to me as another method of passing off the blame onto Papi, refer to the next line in bold...
This one I'm not really completely sold on at this point, it is just a thought that went through my head when Blue came up innocent, and he has already put blame my way because of her death. Which yes, I do take full blame for, BUT it is also a perfect way for the vampires to get me lynched also. I think we need to look at those who joined me in her lynching. Yes, I started it, but I did not finish her lynching...someone else who KNEW she was innocent was there.
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The post requires me to type something outside of the quote box, otherwise it says "The message is too short"... just disregard this.
 
Fungi said:
The post requires me to type something outside of the quote box, otherwise it says "The message is too short"... just disregard this.
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True, but what your not seeing apparently, is the fact two vamps are NOT going to be so obvious together. Now two innocents if feel the same way may end up doing that which is why I don't really want to push to much Paps way..because really I'm not sure, just a thought really in the past post.
 
Fungi said:
The post requires me to type something outside of the quote box, otherwise it says "The message is too short"... just disregard this.
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Since you typed inside the quote itself, it wont carry over so here is what I want to respond to:
"As always, it takes two to tango, there's some give and take in the link between you and Papi, yet he's determined to tell us that you two are not allied. This appears to me as another method of passing off the blame onto Papi, refer to the next line in bold..."
Yes, he has...as I said IF he is Vamp and knew she was going to come up innocent, he also knew I was going to have alot to answer too, so of coarse he would say that to implicate myself and take away from him, he knows 2 vamps would not be that obvious together and that others would know that also, soooo if ppl think me vamp they would consider him innocent.
 
Well, again I have to go. I hate going when there is someone to exchange thoughts with actually on but it is 2am here. I may be back on if I can't sleep but for now I am going to try and get some sleep. Hey, BTW...sweet dreams!:silly:
 
I hope you all had a Happy Thankgiving.

Niko-
There are those that speculate you are the Hunter. There are clues pointing to this. If you weren't turned when you used your arrow, you screwed us twofold. You killed a townie while narrowing the Vamp's list of people who could be Seer.
If you were turned before you used your arrow, you still screwed us.
 
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