Mafia 17: Vampires

[Dangerdoll]

///Game Off

Got put on service call duty for the next couple of days.. Today I'm actually doing some MACS (Moves, Adds, Changes) to the school we just finished a while ago.. Its just down the street from the house so was able to pop in for lunch
///Game On
No just shaking a tree DD and seeing what type of evil falls out of it.. But then your lack of posting to my questions/suppositions has a whole tale of answers in it doesn't it???

ok, just what question were you looking for answers to, CL.. other than those tongue in cheek ones?

Ok this post isn't that long because DD really hasn't posted that much but stick with me here as there is a pattern

Here she is responding / picking on Kuhli for his post about the Crucifix..
So then she starts in on Kuhli's lack of spiritual knowledge..
Up to this point her posts have been fairley innocuous.. Light hearted and teasing.. But then she starts in on Fungi the other person that a train had been started on by this point but also makes sure to get another dig back into Kuhli who has been responding to every accusation but she keeps driving him..
Ahhh above is where the true fun begins.. She has been helping to create trains with her other posts but then decides to make this vote.. (subject to change of course).. But then my mind falls back to a previous game when she knew what buttons to push on LadyG when she was evil and LadyG was the doc.. She has self admitted that her play is like HN's and knows he was pushing buttons to look for a response.. But up until this point all she does is make mention of how it made her feel "chilly".. No other rational and is the third person to jump on Bob's train.. Notice that she was adding to the train starting on the other two people from earlier in the day..
Now she adds just enough ... to make us sceptical about RB but again doesn't input any of her own thoughts really here.. Just enough to get people to go hmmmm..
Now she throws in this answer to Lady G about trading vamp items for vamp items.. Again just enough to make us think she is a townie...
Again she makes posts about Kuhli being suspicious.. She justifies her vote for staying on RB but again we can link this only to a statement that it made her "chilly" but yet she talks about possibly voting for Kuhli instead because of a kid basically using logic of "who said it had to be all at one time".. Again not that he was defending everything that was put before him like she at that point had to know he was doing, because he had defended against some of her own comments.
Then this is ALL she can come up with when we LOOSE a townie????
Now reguardless of what she says she comes blazing to the defense of Blue.. I'm not saying one way or another if Blue is a vamp.. But I find it interesting that she felt the need to intervene here.. Now granted I also feel that what Blue did was rather small and insignificant but Blue has proven time and time again that she can take care of herself.. But I keep having Charlie's statement go through my head that ICE likes to hand pick rolls.. Could it be that he did hand pick DD as a LV roll and people are getting to close to someone that she knows might be a fellow vamp?? Just wondering here...
Again she takes the time out to let us know what Blue was thinking.. Trying to point a finger back at the bush shakers.. But isn't that was we are supposed to do the first several days and throughout the game?? Is shake bushes? She is doing it in a fashion but also notice that she deftly avoids my own accusations which is what led to me digging through her posts..
I'm thinking that there is a connection here either between DD and HN or DD and Blue.. But I haven't quite put my finger on which one yet..
Anyone else have thoughts or ideas on this?? Am I way off base here? This all falls back to, that I think people are falling through the cracks.. DD is one of those people and request that others take a look and let me know if what I am seeing is accurate..

I find it very interesting that you went out of your way trying to make a case against me, CL but the thing is, while you claim to be doing the same, I am trying to "shake some trees" myself and pointing out what I find most peculiar with people's posting. I am trying to help the town, because I have faith, we can be without you vampire scum once and for all, all we need to do is keep on rooting you out. My thoughts are how could "shaking the trees" be good for you and not for anyone else..... or should I say, not for anyone that sleeps during the night?

I find 2 things interesting in your findings. One, you say that your post isn't a long one, but Lord, if it didn't take up most of my page. The second point, you bring up all I have to say about losing 2 townies. Yes, I am sad but it is the first night. While I think it's important, yes, I also think we can learn form it.... night 1's are learning nights. BUT CL, just what exactly did you have to say about it??

 

[johnlarson66]

Chas pointed this out to Lg but I wanted to make sure jl knew this as well...KOTD had a vote, he had to drop out

I meant a vote for this day. I know he voted, but he was going to be gone the next day cycle. He could have posted a quick vote when the new day started and avoided a UD for today.

I think he could have played on.

 

[judgemax]

My goodness the thread is slow, It always seems, that when I have time to be on, no one else is, lol

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Well, I was really hoping to get home and read something that jumped right out at me, but unfortunately no one volunteered for a staking.

My suspects (just in case I don't make it through tonight)-

Rbishop: I still find him suspect. Maybe more so since he went quiet "post-war". Promised to find someone new, but I haven't seen him banging on any doors.

Blue: Has posted almost purely reactionary. Only seems to come out when caled out.

Clown: It may be a "minor" mistake, but I believe that transposing Ice's name for mine may be quite telling. He's the Mod, it's not like you confused to high posters in the game. Was he on your mind because you had recently read the PM for the turn you submitted?

Others that I'm wary of-

Jo: There is no way that voting for himself is good for the town. This is only a good move if he did it to intentionally get himself off of everyone else's minds and that would only be good for a vampire.

JM: She's not nearly as active in hunting evil as she has been in the past IMO. She seems content with only one suspect (Lady G) and even posts those accusations in an overly friendly manner to me.

Along with them, I'm leary of pretty much everyone else...

I'm going to hold my vote for an hour or so to see if anything new comes up, but at this point it will be on Rb.

 

[plantling]

No mentions of Plantling? she seems to be keeping low on peoples radars, which concerns me a little...think it may be time to start a review of her posts...

Here I am, Niko. I just posted to you this morning, when you thought Ice was trying to say there were only 2 Vamps, remember? So don't know why you're missing me of all pple all of a sudden. Don't make Blue jealous. :lipssealedsmilie:

Anway, that post you quoted was from Andi and she was looking at the list of pple that voted Kuhli and that's why you, CL, and Fungi were the ones she named in her post. Or did you skim over that? You are more than welcome to review my posts as I've nothing to hide.

Put me up on the block? looks like your just taking parts of the message exchange, and not the whole of what was said, and trying to use them to point the finger at me, which is a very weak case IMO...

Niko, if you go back to many of the other games Chaz was in he often refers to pple he questions and/or suspects as My hairy friend or my toothy friend depending on the game. He was talking about you, so I don't know how you would not have gotten that. Hmmmm, you're also raising my suspicions of you for the confusion and you wouldn't be the first evil to single me out for no apparent reason. Do I look like an easy target? Oh Contraire, Mon Frere.

 

[Lady G]

My thoughts regarding those that voted to lynch kuhli are.. I dont believe either at least on of the vamps voted for him. I dont think that both vaps would have as this would have attracted attention to them both. I dont think the lead vamp did simply becaue they new that when kuhli was found to beinnocent we would scrutinize the ones that voted for him and they would not want this attention on themselves.

I am inclined to lean towards JM, LG, jpap or Plant being LV, this is a feeling based on the way the voting went. Seems those four were basically "on there own" voting for those that didnt have many votes so it would not look like they were folowing a "train"...

Jpap and LG are sticking out to me at the moment because of the way the two jumped on me over a simple question that I asked regarding Jpaps post.

Atnixon has raised a level on my suspicion because of his need to twist the post made by charlie, just why would that be done? Why would someone want to twist the words of another to make them look guilty? If twisting words is all that is had to go on...theres not much to be held in that.

Blue, why did you leave of you, RB and CS on Jo...it was obvious he wasn't going to be lynched. Did you and your partner pick someone who wasn't going to be lynched so you could say you weren't on a "innocent"?
I don't know I can't shake the common"ness" of Rb and Blue.

 

[judgemax]

Well, I was really hoping to get home and read something that jumped right out at me, but unfortunately no one volunteered for a staking.

My suspects (just in case I don't make it through tonight)-

Rbishop: I still find him suspect. Maybe more so since he went quiet "post-war". Promised to find someone new, but I haven't seen him banging on any doors.

Blue: Has posted almost purely reactionary. Only seems to come out when caled out.

Clown: It may be a "minor" mistake, but I believe that transposing Ice's name for mine may be quite telling. He's the Mod, it's not like you confused to high posters in the game. Was he on your mind because you had recently read the PM for the turn you submitted?

Others that I'm wary of-

Jo: There is no way that voting for himself is good for the town. This is only a good move if he did it to intentionally get himself off of everyone else's minds and that would only be good for a vampire.

JM: She's not nearly as active in hunting evil as she has been in the past IMO. She seems content with only one suspect (Lady G) and even posts those accusations in an overly friendly manner to me.jeez, I am being to friendly? Sorry, if there isn't any one jumping in line to be first at the noose, I am sorry, if my "friendly" tactics are not up to par,with your take no prisoners, approach.Glad to see your not ignoring me this game, I almost thought you had forgot about tormenting me. :silly:

Along with them, I'm leary of pretty much everyone else...

I'm going to hold my vote for an hour or so to see if anything new comes up, but at this point it will be on Rb.

And, if you care to know, I am not jumping out to look for evil as usual, because it gets me lynched, and that does only the vampires, good, so I figured I would try a more subdued approach, is that OK with you sir HN?..:lipssealedsmilie:

 

[judgemax]

And, HN, why do you have to be so dramatic," if I make it through the night?"...you always say this?..are you sure, you haven't already died, and are just worried about being able to stay awake all night, and on the prowl?

 

[Lady G]

Chas pointed this out to Lg but I wanted to make sure jl knew this as well...KOTD had a vote, he had to drop out



As DD said, Chas posts things like "my toothy friend" all the time. In the werewolf game it was "my hairy friend", etc...

I just want to clear this up quick, I knew KOTD voted, that is why I asked if his vote counted. I thought of it as a UD, because he wasn't voted off and wasn't killed off by evil's, he died b/c he couldn't continue the game..so IMO it is a "Untimely" death.

 

[Blueiz]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueiz
My thoughts regarding those that voted to lynch kuhli are.. I dont believe either at least on of the vamps voted for him. I dont think that both vaps would have as this would have attracted attention to them both. I dont think the lead vamp did simply becaue they new that when kuhli was found to beinnocent we would scrutinize the ones that voted for him and they would not want this attention on themselves.

I am inclined to lean towards JM, LG, jpap or Plant being LV, this is a feeling based on the way the voting went. Seems those four were basically "on there own" voting for those that didnt have many votes so it would not look like they were folowing a "train"...

Jpap and LG are sticking out to me at the moment because of the way the two jumped on me over a simple question that I asked regarding Jpaps post.

Atnixon has raised a level on my suspicion because of his need to twist the post made by charlie, just why would that be done? Why would someone want to twist the words of another to make them look guilty? If twisting words is all that is had to go on...theres not much to be held in that.

Blue, why did you leave of you, RB and CS on Jo...it was obvious he wasn't going to be lynched. Did you and your partner pick someone who wasn't going to be lynched so you could say you weren't on a "innocent"?
I don't know I can't shake the common"ness" of Rb and Blue.

LG, please read the whole paragraph then look back at who voted for who, it will make sense to you then why I stated those four names.