Mafia 17: Vampires

HOLY ****, Blue was INNOCENT!!! OMG, I am truly sorry Blue...you even got a doll:headshake2:

Yes, everybody....I got the Blue "train" going, Yes, I kept it going, and Yes, I feel VERY HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That just blew my mind so completely I really thought she was mafia, really everything pointed that way IMO!

On top of being wrong about her, we lost Plant, DD and MAL all innocent I can't believe this in 2 nights we have lost SIX innocents! One due to me, and I can't say how sorry I really am:eek:

I really don't know what to say, I am in total shock right now..the only thing I can say is I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!!!

//game-off//
DD, I hope everything turns out good for you. I am very sorry to hear you have personal issues especially at this time, know my thoughts and prayers are with you and what ever has happened!
//game-on//
 
For CL's benefit

This doesn't add up, if you're changed it's irrevocable, you're on their side if you're changed and that makes you play the game accordingly. If you are changed, Lady G, I'd expect to see a minimal difference in the way you play the game, after all, we don't know who's been changed otherwise we'd lynch them immediately. This feeble attempt at saying "Oh no, I don't want to be a vamp, I'm innocent through and through" is quite odd. Changing adds an element of pzazz.

This is all, unless, you were already converted by the LV yesterday, talking of the distateful and lamentable act of being converted tomorrow or the day after, or the day after that sends out overtones of "Don't convert me, I'll betray you" but simultaneously makes you a good target for a conversion.

This anomoly has caused a change of heart in my votes

I retract my vote of Joander and instead vote to stick a stake into LG

Subject to change, I'm going to back-track over her posts to affirm my decision, I don't want to be too rash on this one.

I don't see being changed as that big a deal, you've still got a line to push. WIN at all costs, playing for the mafia is just a different ball game with the same approach. If you were changed you'd still come across as the loveable Lady G you are as an innocent, we'd be none the wiser. Bringing up the posibility of being changed suggests a personal fixation with it, either because the poster has/will been/be changed (sorry about the tenses)... so far only you and CL have brought up the issue of a medium-level poster having been turned, I place you right in that category.

That's very selfless of you, but one swallow does not make summer, one vote doesn't equate to a lynching, what of the other four or five voters required to have the vote pass? Sure, the heart's in the right place, but is it beating?

Grr.. that's not how you're meant to react!
You're a cold-blooded vampire! Start acting like one!
When was the last time Dracula had sweet dreams?

Well somebody was turned simple probability assures us of that, sorry Lady G, but whilst I may think that the initial LV/minion duo could possibly be andi and johnlarson, I'm of the opinion that you were turned on night one, I'm still waiting for extra slip-up evidence from the other two before I vote for them.
 
HOLY ****, Blue was INNOCENT!!! OMG, I am truly sorry Blue...you even got a doll:headshake2:

Yes, everybody....I got the Blue "train" going, Yes, I kept it going, and Yes, I feel VERY HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That just blew my mind so completely I really thought she was mafia, really everything pointed that way IMO!

On top of being wrong about her, we lost Plant, DD and MAL all innocent I can't believe this in 2 nights we have lost SIX innocents! One due to me, and I can't say how sorry I really am:eek:

I really don't know what to say, I am in total shock right now..the only thing I can say is I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!!!

//game-off//
DD, I hope everything turns out good for you. I am very sorry to hear you have personal issues especially at this time, know my thoughts and prayers are with you and what ever has happened!
//game-on//


Oh, LG, you make it so hard for me to want you dead
 
But are you ready for mine.. After the one game where you were the Doc I grew to respect you and your opinion a lot.. Simply because you were so quick to peg myself and DD as mafia. So I trusted you in this respect and now I feel like a horses rear because I helped you lynch an innocent..

And honestly while I didn't post it I was torn between blue and Niko.. And then with Charlie seeming to have an IN on how Ice constructs his games this all had me convinced of your path..

However in your defense she did look mafia in my eyes as well... But I am wondering if you weren't counting on some of that in your play?? I mean you seem to have Joander voting with you as well..

You really do have me perplexed as of this point.

Yes, Clown...I fully expect alot of heat over this believe me I do. But I was so sure, at this point though I have no idea what I think. I do have to correct you on one point though it is Jpap that voted with me, well along with several others truthfully, but I think you are talking about Pap, that is who Blue said I had a connection with not Jo.
I have to say I am very glad we have an extended night, so I can start over from the beginning because at this point I just don't know what I think or believe, I can't believe I was so wrong. I mean yes, I've been wrong before but I was sooooo sure.
I have so many thoughts running through my mind right now, I'm thinking in complete circles at this point.
I will have to think long and hard, before I come up with a suspect list. I still think Charlie is not sitting well with me, Jo voting himself, then I think I was so wrong on Blue, could I be that wrong on HN...is he really vamp and I was reading the 2 backwards, then Rb and Niko....ahhhhhh I am going to drive myself insane before this on is over I believe. If I survive another night even, I'm sure EVERYONE thinks I'm vamp now, and I don't know how to change thoughts on that, I would be on myself if I weren't me...
 
Well...you not the only one who takes the heat for this screw up..a lot of responsibility falls on my shoulders LG..I did what i believed to be the right and i goofed up big time and accept whats coming to me...

All i am really really sorry town, do as you see fit against me, i deserve it all..
 
Im not sure if I should apologize or not. On one hand, it was my fault that I didnt vote, but I only didnt vote because I would have been yelled at for skimming. I was re-reading the thread and I ended up having to leave before I finished. Even though I had a good idea of everything that went on, I didnt vote, because god forbid I vote after skimming.
I did try to make it home in time to vote, but it did not work out that way, and I am sorry.
 
For CL's benefit

Ok so go back pre-Blue death.. What made you think LadyG is a vamp? Thats what I'm looking for.. You obviously have found something in her postings that made you want to vote for her what is it?? What am I missing?

While Blue is now gone and that does raise my suspicions of her simply due to the train forming etc... What were the things that made you vote for her??? You see above average intelligence here and while I'm not a scmuck at these games I would like to see a little more as to what cause this vote.. Like I said what am I missing??

Case in point...
Originally Posted by Fungi
Well somebody was turned simple probability assures us of that, sorry Lady G, but whilst I may think that the initial LV/minion duo could possibly be andi and johnlarson, I'm of the opinion that you were turned on night one, I'm still waiting for extra slip-up evidence from the other two before I vote for them.

What is leading you to this conclusion? Gut feel or is there something I missed????
 
Well, as Niko says, it is time for some serious review of the thread.

Back on Day 1 when we had 18 players, the votes touched on 13 of the players at some time during the day, with 5 folks never getting a vote placed on them at one time or another. KOTD, Mal, DD, Niko and Andi. Three of those folks are now not with us because of RL issues.

The final voting of Day 1 had 18 votes on 6 different folks. A little spread out but probably not unusual for a Day 1 with so little information available of a conclusive nature.

During Day 2, the remaining 16 players, cast their votes on 6 different folks at some point of the day. We ended up with our votes spread on just 6 folks at the end of the day, which is quite a step forward from Day 1, and in all honesty, very little vote swapping (that probably made Ice's day!).

Not sure if it really points to anything, but it does show we rapidly are coming together with our thoughts.
 
As I am reading and taking notes, I wonder what is up with joander? I know he was upset over the rule thing about retracting your vote, and that in post 477, voted for him self.

But that was at just after 9 PM Monday night, shortly after Day 1 nightfall. I don't believe he has posted in the thread since, even though his profile, viewable to all, shows him as last online at about 7 PM last night. It appears that at least he was on line early enough that he could have changed his vote and be a bit more helpful to the town.

I for one hope he decides to finish playing the game; we can not afford any more villager losses at this point.

Any thoughts?
 
Well...When i woke up this am and saw what had happened at night fall, i have half felt like putting myself in a as UD...Thats how much i feel i screwed the town up...However, with the town numbers as low as they are, i felt that was not right for me to do..so, will battle on and deal with any concequences..

I hope he does continue to play Bob, we need all we have right now..

The next thing for me is to look at the quiet people over the last day..start at the beginning of that day and work forward, looking for patterns..
 
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