Mafia 17: Vampires

[Hooked Newbie]

I pulled the votes from night one and night two, to see if we can see anything from it.

Night one


night two

The only ones I notice as being on both innocents would be Cl and Niko. Not sure if that means anything or not, but it is the one thing in common from both night one and two.

I will be on and off through out the night, but someone else needs the computer so I am going to go for now.[/quote]


Andi stated that very point awhile ago (multiple times). Are you coaching her or is she coaching you?I don't have much of an evil read from either of them, but you restating her point seems interesting.

 

[Lady G]

You know HN, Andi's posts have been few and far between...for me personally it helps to have the vote tally right there in front of me. If we were coaching each other do you really think we would say "hey, let's post the same thoughts"?

No, I do not think Niko seems vamp IMO. Yes, I've had my points with him thinking possible but no over all I do not see it.

Clown on the other hand has had me more then a little concerend a few times, so yes his votes do intrest me quite a bit.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

You know HN, Andi's posts have been few and far between...for me personally it helps to have the vote tally right there in front of me. If we were coaching each other do you really think we would say "hey, let's post the same thoughts"?

No, I do not think Niko seems vamp IMO. Yes, I've had my points with him thinking possible but no over all I do not see it.

Clown on the other hand has had me more then a little concerend a few times, so yes his votes do intrest me quite a bit.

I do agree, but with her posts being so few and far between, they should be easier to remember. Right? Why post the same thing then? The voting has me concerned as well, what I see from that is that on night one, it was Jpap, LG on Blue then on night two it was LG, Jpap, followed by others (including myself) on Blue. If I've got it wrong, please point it out, because frankly I had to make a choice between Niko and Blue and your case swayed my vote.

 

[Lady G]

Thanks LG..I do not want to go back and forth either...just trying to get everyone to throw out their best thoughts to see if we can come to some common ground. We still have more than a full 24 hrs to pull together as a Town, and even if we do, the odds are that we can mistakenly hit an Innocent.

So from what I can see, 6 of us have posted our ideas...

Fungi, #851 lady Andi jl66 jpap
Hook, #939 jl66 cs Rb Andi lady
Rb, #941 lady Andi joan jm Fungi
Niko, #943 Andi jm cs
Andi, #946 Clown niko
Lady, #947 Andi cs Rb jm Fungi Clown

Well, this is interesting also, it seems everyone is looking pretty much in the same direction of those who have posted, except Andi...which of coarse she isn't going to list herself and it seems the 3 on most lists would be Andi, Chaz, and myself. I see Andy is on everyone (except her own).

I realize all this is obvious, but just trying to think outloud here.

 

[Lady G]

I do agree, but with her posts being so few and far between, they should be easier to remember. Right? Why post the same thing then? The voting has me concerned as well, what I see from that is that on night one, it was Jpap, LG on Blue then on night two it was LG, Jpap, followed by others (including myself) on Blue. If I've got it wrong, please point it out, because frankly I had to make a choice between Niko and Blue and your case swayed my vote.

HN, obviously you are not wrong. Of coarse from my point of view, I would have to be suspicious of Jpap other than myself, but really I want to believe he just thought her to be Vamp as well. Yes, I know I had a very strong case against blue...but it was there, she looked Vampire to me and obviously to others, if the evidence didn't point to that fact not so many would of joined in on the vote with me. I didn't twist her meanings, I didn't change the text..I did make a mistake on a vote name at one point but that was quickly pointed out and I acknowledged it and apologized.
As bad as it makes me look now, there was a case against her. It wasn't a weak or fabricated case, she simplely looked evil plain and simple.

 

[Fungi]

//game off
Sorry guys, I don't have the time to read the thread so far, my dad has passworded the computer (it's a power thing:swear then I have to go for a swim ('cos I'm getting fit for a 1.2k open-sea swim in about a month :mad2 and then I have to go vote this afternoon, it's not likely that I'll be able to get up to speed any time soon. I've already voted this cycle so hopefully Ice won't cast me as an UD

//game on

 

[Hooked Newbie]

//game off
Sorry guys, I don't have the time to read the thread so far, my dad has passworded the computer (it's a power thing:swear then I have to go for a swim ('cos I'm getting fit for a 1.2k open-sea swim in about a month :mad2 and then I have to go vote this afternoon, it's not likely that I'll be able to get up to speed any time soon. I've already voted this cycle so hopefully Ice won't cast me as an UD

//game on

He passworded the computer, but yet you're on? It was finals last night wasn't it?

 

[Rbishop]

Unless I tallied the lists wrong, the 6 players that have contributed so far are leaning...

5 on Andi

3 on lady, cs, jm

2 on jl66, fungi, Rb, Clown

1 on jpap, joan, niko

With 6 others yet to post thoughts...

 

[jpappy789]

Something is weird with andis posts so I am sorry if the quotes are messed up...anyways, her suspect list is what has been worrying me. She mentions Cl and niko alot but is very inconsisten about how she feels about them with no real evidence at all.

Given that Kuhli turned out to be innocent (as tears stream down my face for voting an innocent for his guilty behavior) "I'm so sorry Kuhli" at least one of the others whom voted for him is logically speaking a vampire, I know I'm not one as I bite in to another slice of my garlic pizza, and KOTD is no longer in the game, that leaves Jo (who either changed vote to another to lessen suspicion or is innocent, I'll go with innocent for the moment). That leaves Niko, Fungi, and CL. So I will be watching to see what happens, cause I doubt both vampires voted for the same innocent, but logically we have at least one in the names above.

Here is her first list of suspects based on who voted juhli night one.

No Strings, what was stated above followed with my logical suspect list of Niko, Fungi, and CL.
Planting post showed logical suspicion of Niko.
Fungi looked to be falling in to the trap that our innocent had of appearing guilty while innocent.
CL - I had not seen enough evidence to go with guilty or innocent

Here andi says fungi appears guilty but could be innocent, just "feel into the trap" voting for kuhli. and she doesnt know if cl is a vamp or not yet she still had them on her list?

Niko is still my prime, followed closly by CL
My logic is mainly one ove the votes the killed the innocent is prob a vamp

Now fungi is off the list somehow, not sure why the drop (maybe both ended up on the same team) but cl is still on there?

Yes and I'm still not convences Niko is not a Vamp, Him and CL are still the top of my list, they are the only common link in the 2 dead innocents ATM,
//OFF GAME Hi all I know I'm not on much, I'm the mommy in my house, kids cooking ect... I've been making home made bread since 8am....GAME ON///

Still naming niko and cl

I could see that....but my gut is still telling me Niko, I cant put my finger on a exact reason why, cause even though CL has voted the same way, I dont think CL is a vamp, but Niko i think is, I waiting to see what happens before I vote one way or another.

Now cl isnt a vamp to her but something isnt right about niko

I'm still trying to figure out what to say to prove my innocents which is hard knowing that people, would probly not believe my innocents... Yes I dont say alot, but do read and try to keep up with what is going on. Some of you have the benifet of having played with eachother before and know what patterns to look for. In all my gaming experance, (which is rpg D&D and Call of Cthulhu) this is the first where i have to decide who is guilty or innocent, I tend to play with agressive players so under the radar is how it tend to play. Sorry if that is not the right thing to do here, I will try to find a new method.

I still havent seen anything that showes me that CL and Niko is not a vamp, and they are the ones who stand out to me the most.

But now cl is back with niko as her top suspects and she acts like cl was always at the top for her.

Something isnt right about andi and I think her and fungi might be on a team...as vamps

So I have andi, fungi, niko, Lg and jm as suspects right now.

 

[jpappy789]

HN, obviously you are not wrong. Of coarse from my point of view, I would have to be suspicious of Jpap other than myself, but really I want to believe he just thought her to be Vamp as well. Yes, I know I had a very strong case against blue...but it was there, she looked Vampire to me and obviously to others, if the evidence didn't point to that fact not so many would of joined in on the vote with me. I didn't twist her meanings, I didn't change the text..I did make a mistake on a vote name at one point but that was quickly pointed out and I acknowledged it and apologized.
As bad as it makes me look now, there was a case against her. It wasn't a weak or fabricated case, she simplely looked evil plain and simple.

I agree Lg, I really thought sshe was a vamp as well. The only reason I am suspicious of you is that there was one post where out of the blue you brought back her posts from monday