Mafia #18 The Santa Game

[charlie_stubbs]

I dont want to come off like a sore sport, but if we lose it has been by UD. It's not fair to the townies, and its not fair to the evils, as it has tainted the result IMO. I don't wanna be the guy crying about it if the evils win, but seriously. We are getting more screwed by the innocents than the evils at this point.

 

[Madcrawdad]

I thought about that too Mad but why would the evils want to jump to an innocent at the last second? It makes them an obvious target.

Unless its reverse psychology and they want us to think evils wouldn't do that.

Yep.

 

[charlie_stubbs]

Chas/HN, you both changed votes to Niko extremely late. As neither of your votes were necessary to actually finish him off, would you mind explaining why you wanted to be in on the kill so badly?

Its simple Mad. I really did think he would be evil at the end. I want to win or lose as a team, and my vote for HN wasnt reflecting that. Had he been evil, DD and HN would definately hang me to dry for not voting for him. And again, I did start to believe he was evil closer to nightfall.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Chas/HN, you both changed votes to Niko extremely late. As neither of your votes were necessary to actually finish him off, would you mind explaining why you wanted to be in on the kill so badly?

Like I said, I didn't want to waste a vote and if he were evil and had team mates on him, they could've come off late to save him. Poor decision on my part, but the late vote onto Coler by him was, as I said, the most suspicious thing I'd seen from him.

I find one thing curious about your vote. Why were you so happy to leave it where it was? Ironically it was where Plant was voting. Was that so that you could appear to be in tune with her so you wouldn't be questioned when you put the hit in on her?

 

[IceH2O]

Yep.

Okay but Charlie voted for HN again, is this more distancing?

I don't trust DD, her posting and jumping off innocents to other people doesn't sit well.

I'd vote for HN before I will Charlie. Though both of them along with DD could be 3 of the 4 elves. HN mentioned Jpap and he could be the 5th, more distancing?

 

[Dangerdoll]

I find iodd and suspicious that you are going to carry that out through this day too. That was an error on my part because I had to leave last minute. I explained myself. There is no one I am communicating with in this game. I find it interesting how you keep bringing it up though. Tell me grins, does Charlie seem suspicious to you? If so, why? As a matter of fact, just where do your suspicions lie besides where your friends tell them to?

 

[Hooked Newbie]

I dont want to come off like a sore sport, but if we lose it has been by UD. It's not fair to the townies, and its not fair to the evils, as it has tainted the result IMO. I don't wanna be the guy crying about it if the evils win, but seriously. We are getting more screwed by the innocents than the evils at this point.

Finally, we can agree on something.

I think there should be some sort of control put into place to penalize UDs... maybe one allowed, 2nd UD results in 3 game suspension or something? I think UDs will ultimately be what kills out the mafia games on this site.

 

[Dangerdoll]

that post above is in response to Grins.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Okay but Charlie voted for HN again, is this more distancing?

I don't trust DD, her posting and jumping off innocents to other people doesn't sit well.

I'd vote for HN before I will Charlie. Though both of them along with DD could be 3 of the 4 elves. HN mentioned Jpap and he could be the 5th, more distancing?

Isn't it interesting that my name didn't apear in your posts until I mentioned you. I'm starting to believe that there's a very strong Evil team and that it includes you and Mad. You seemed to initially say that Jpappy might be a good candidate, but voting him sure brought some out of the woodwork.

 

[Grins]

Here it's 8:52 AM. Beth has a list
Here Beth suspects the Coler/CL argument could have been a plan.
Here it's 4:19 PM and Beth votes herself. All of a sudden she's not sure of anyone but herself.

Here Beth says she thinks it's better she votes herself rather than someone she has no proof on. Well, is there really ever any proof in these games?
If she's read a lot, then why did she miss when nightfall is?
Due to Beth's illogical posts, I think it's because she has something to hide, perhaps evil pointy ears? I vote to lynch Beth.

I'm considering this Plant's way of speaking to us from the grave. Combined with Beth's odd posting style that has already been discussed I'm moving Beth up from a suspect to top suspect on my list. At this point I have to be suspicious of all but for the sake of clarity and help to other innocents I have concerns about DD (the odd email post leading to thoughts that she is communicating with others and got messy), HN still remains as a suspect but I don't see much recent that gives me reason for that. Either he is very good at being evil or he was just kidding about the keebler thing? Has anyone seen anyone being openly supportive of Beth's actions?

I vote to lynch Beth.