Mafia #19 50/50

Yes, as per my own definition I should have said I switched my vote to Plantling because of her slip up, because I think it was bigger than a regular mistake.

Oh well, harp on a subject long enough and I'm even starting to look guilty to myself =( Plantling, you are good, I'll give ya that much. I've never actually been able to find anything to make a case against you before, in any game, no matter what I personally thought of you...so for Brains, there is no rivalry there.

No Brains, most of the time Swayde and I have played we've been on the innocent side together. From memory there was one time she was evil (Biological Badlands Game) and she tried to single me out for low postings when two of her cohorts had even less posts which drew my attention to her but it was no biggie. And as Swayde had mentioned before another game had me evil (OLD/New Mafia) where Ice started a train on her and I joined along, but again that was no biggie. I hope that currently we're just playing the game 'cause I still luv you Swayde and miss having you play these games.
 
No Brains, most of the time Swayde and I have played we've been on the innocent side together. From memory there was one time she was evil (Biological Badlands Game) and she tried to single me out for low postings when two of her cohorts had even less posts which drew my attention to her but it was no biggie. And as Swayde had mentioned before another game had me evil (OLD/New Mafia) where Ice started a train on her and I joined along, but again that was no biggie. I hope that currently we're just playing the game 'cause I still luv you Swayde and miss having you play these games.


I understand Plantling, love ya too, and miss being able to play these games. I still think you are one heckuva scummy mafia :P

I did read all the posts, but my point is that it's unlike you to make such a slip, which is why I placed so much emphasis on it and let it carry so much weight in my judgement against you....it's not unlike DD to make typos, grammar errors, and big mistakes....or LG for that matter, which I know seems really unfair and biased.

If you are innocent, this would not be the first time I've been totally wrong about a fellow innocent. And right about now it's just a gut feeling about you with less emphasis on the whole "communicating mafia" thing. As a matter of fact I can recall 2 times in the past when I have been really, really sure that a fellow innocent is mafia/evil and thrown down the gauntlet and really fought hard to get them lynched, Zsandmann and DD, both of which were also innocent, and fortunately was discovered before any real harm was done to the town. I hope this is the case here and my radar is just totally off on you. Given that reasonable doubt, I am unwilling to push hard for a lynch against you, much less vote for you at this time.

I gotta go to the dentist and get 3 fillings *cries* and then I get to go grocery shopping. I hope to be able to get back online when I get home before I start playin WoW with the old man, if not, I'll have time again throughout the morning and day tomorrow like I did today.

Really hope to hear more from JL by then, my leanings on him are swinging back to the mafia side after his totally useless post earlier. Also would love to hear from Andi, DC and more from Wes.
 
No Brains, most of the time Swayde and I have played we've been on the innocent side together. From memory there was one time she was evil (Biological Badlands Game) and she tried to single me out for low postings when two of her cohorts had even less posts which drew my attention to her but it was no biggie. And as Swayde had mentioned before another game had me evil (OLD/New Mafia) where Ice started a train on her and I joined along, but again that was no biggie. I hope that currently we're just playing the game 'cause I still luv you Swayde and miss having you play these games.

To add to that, though I still luv you Swayde, I will still mercilessly persue you if you are Mafia. Unless you are a CM and hit me next nightfall. :lipssealedsmilie:
 
I understand Plantling, love ya too, and miss being able to play these games. I still think you are one heckuva scummy mafia :P

I did read all the posts, but my point is that it's unlike you to make such a slip, which is why I placed so much emphasis on it and let it carry so much weight in my judgement against you....it's not unlike DD to make typos, grammar errors, and big mistakes....or LG for that matter, which I know seems really unfair and biased.

If you are innocent, this would not be the first time I've been totally wrong about a fellow innocent. And right about now it's just a gut feeling about you with less emphasis on the whole "communicating mafia" thing. As a matter of fact I can recall 2 times in the past when I have been really, really sure that a fellow innocent is mafia/evil and thrown down the gauntlet and really fought hard to get them lynched, Zsandmann and DD, both of which were also innocent, and fortunately was discovered before any real harm was done to the town. I hope this is the case here and my radar is just totally off on you. Given that reasonable doubt, I am unwilling to push hard for a lynch against you, much less vote for you at this time.

I gotta go to the dentist and get 3 fillings *cries* and then I get to go grocery shopping. I hope to be able to get back online when I get home before I start playin WoW with the old man, if not, I'll have time again throughout the morning and day tomorrow like I did today.

Really hope to hear more from JL by then, my leanings on him are swinging back to the mafia side after his totally useless post earlier. Also would love to hear from Andi, DC and more from Wes.
I'm glad you think I'm less Mafia now but I can't help but wonder if this is just a cover so that if you hit me tonight the town will not go after you. :lipssealedsmilie:

Call me paranoid. However with JL's lack of activity and his last frill posting, I'm moving you guys back at even now with slightly scummy.
 
Now then, i have a problem with this post....above in red, care to explain LG?? A slip perhaps? a message to someone perhaps?

:laugh: No, no message there Niko!! How could that be a message anyway?? I understand you questioning me on it, though..but really what message could I be sending with that? Just a typo, I was glad we got 2 mafia and I guess the mafia word just stuck in my head.
 
Now, I have quite a bit to catch up on. I will be back in a few to add some thoughts, I really will..planed on it last night but after my shower and in the middle of making something to eat my littlest got up, ended up falling asleep, trying to get her back to sleep.
 
Just a quick update on the players. Kinda thinking out loud and looking for feedback at the same time.

Blue-Known innocent
Jmax-Known innocent
Jpap-Known innocent

Beth-Known Mafia
DD-known Mafia
Mal-Known Mafia

Andi-I believe to be mafia.
Deputy-I also believe to be mafia.

Leaving:
JL, Niko, Myself, Plant, Swayde, and Wes.

I did not include Brains (how I am leaning innocent), because I am looking at the original crew here we had 7 mafia, 7 innocents to start.
Wes, I am tending to lean Mafia..because of his lack of help.
Niko-Have went back and forth with
JL-Same, thought Mafia, then leaned more innocent
Plant-Also the same, thought innocent, had a doubt, then leaned her back to innocent.
Swayde-Hadn't really had a mafia vibe from her, but could be mafia.
Myself-Well, I am not commenting on, because again I know what I am.
So anyway 3 of these HAVE to be Mafia.
 
Just a quick update on the players. Kinda thinking out loud and looking for feedback at the same time.

Blue-Known innocent
Jmax-Known innocent
Jpap-Known innocent

Beth-Known Mafia
DD-known Mafia
Mal-Known Mafia

Andi-I believe to be mafia.
Deputy-I also believe to be mafia.

Leaving:
JL, Niko, Myself, Plant, Swayde, and Wes.

I did not include Brains (how I am leaning innocent), because I am looking at the original crew here we had 7 mafia, 7 innocents to start.
Wes, I am tending to lean Mafia..because of his lack of help.
Niko-Have went back and forth with
JL-Same, thought Mafia, then leaned more innocent
Plant-Also the same, thought innocent, had a doubt, then leaned her back to innocent.
Swayde-Hadn't really had a mafia vibe from her, but could be mafia.
Myself-Well, I am not commenting on, because again I know what I am.
So anyway 3 of these HAVE to be Mafia.
Just to wanted to say that should read WHO not HOW.
 
I've been suspicious of Andi for a long time. I was concerned by her total lack of input after about the first day or so...since then I"ve been watching her and waiting to see anything that might give me any indication that she could be a townie, and I've seen nothing. I've even asked that if she is in fact a townie she try harder to show it. I find it rather amazing that she's still around, which makes me think her teammates are possibly helping cover for her and protect her.

DC, well his first vote on me for our old grudges caught my eye and I've kept an eye on him. I always keep an eye on him actually. He dropped it very quickly and hasn't pressed anyone that I've seen. I just don't see anything pro-town from him and he's even more distant than he usually is which makes me think he's most likely Mafia.

JL started the game off very oddly. I pressed him about it for a bit, but then I've agreed with some of his posts since then and they've seemed to be more JL-like. I haven't had the time to really persue anyone so I've let him go because I just can't be sure, he's always been a tough one for me to figure out.

I feel like I am regurgitating other people's thoughts, but I can't help that I agree with some things and in most cases by the time I've had a chance to post, everything's been pointed out already. Now I know how some people who can only post for small windows of time each day feel when they get on and can't find anything new to add.
I just brought this up because of her thoughts on DC, I wanted to add..I too think he is posting even less then usual and it has me more then concerned that maybe he was counting on us being like "Oh, DC never post much" and he is thinking he can slide by on that thought. Also, still waiting on those thoughts there DC.
The fact that he knows he is being questioned and STILL has not said anything to help in any way, is REALLY bothering me.

I switched my vote to Plantling because of the mistake, yes. I felt that it was a bigger mistake then what DD had made, and she was proven to be mafia. I felt like it was more solid evidence on anyone else because it was something Plantling actually DID compared to my top suspect Andi who is suspicious mostly becuase of her lack of doing anything. I did however switch my vote back to Andi.
I have to say the difference IMO, of Plants "slip" and DD's "slip" besides the fact DD was mafia..is at that time Jmax KNEW DD was mafia, so she made a big deal out of a little thing, to try and get our attention to DD. I don't think if Jmax hadn't know DD was Mafia, she would of made such a big deal out of such a little thing. So you trying to compare the two kinda makes me wonder.

/// Game Off
I may be out for a while today.. My son is still sick but his fever has risen to 100.2
If it gets much higher or doesn't break today I'll be taking him into his doctor which may take a while. I've already made calls this morning and the nurse said they should be able to fit us in but just to monitor him closely.
/// Game On
Sorry to hear that Brains, hope the little guy gets better soon..I hate when my little ones are ill!!
 
Hey all, I've been a bad player and haven't added much.....Right now I think most of the quiet people are covering their tracks and that one of the vocal people are probably the Don. For me, I most suspect Niko and LG due to the fact that they're both the ones seeming to direct the game. I'm guessing that beth is probably one of the non-communicating mafia, since she kinda is in and out and out of touch....for this reason:
I vote to lynch beth.

Oh, here we have something from DC, but how in the world are Niko and myself "directing" the game?? I think Brain, Plant and DC have added many thoughts also. Then a reference to "the Don"???
He is right on one thing though, he has been a bad player...and hasn't added much.
 
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