Mafia #20 - Pirates of the Carribean the Play

Hooked Newbie said:
I have no worries going visible. I started with the invisible stuff a few games ago because the Mod recommended it. I just need to remember to close the window when I go to work.
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Thanks. At this point in the game it doesn't make much sense to me to be invisible unless you have something to hide.
 
Lady G said:
Since I am trying to figure which way to go on both, HN and Mad I have gone through their day one posts on Beth..I figure that post HAD to come up for SOME reason....Anyway, here goes....it's a long one.


Here was the post that popped up, NO I hadn't planned this before hand and still have know idea why it was there. Here HN starts on Beth.


Mads first post...jumps right in on Beth also also mentioning Jmax. Then how HN was right on a avatar thing in the past.


Now, HN votes Beth and is the fist vote on her.


Now, Beth has voted HN and he commented on it. OK, understandable.


Yes, he voted first, so no his was not a OMGUS vote understand this statement too.




He seems to be gunning hard for Beth, but others were too.


Mad, coming in again on Beth and explaining why her avatar change could look scummy.


He's still on her about everything.


Then Mad is still there also.


He was right, HN was the only vote on her at the time. And also a point that still makes me question Lchap.


Now, was the MG thing so HN switched his vote...BUT did you already know he was an innocent...that is what I'm wondering??


MG was UDed, and now back onto Beth.


Still voting her




More HN on Beth


Now for Mads "list" mainly innocents


Now for his vote.




again, mad with more on Beth


than last one before she was "planked"...HN

They both seemed to be going pretty hard on Beth IMO, it's hard to say from this...but after Beths lynching HN say's where he figured she was innocent. So honestly I may have to lean more toward HN, that is still bothering me too. I will find the post and replies after. Will also be looking at more then day one before I can decide between these two.
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LG- I've admitted being wrong about Beth, going hard at her, and what my last hour thoughts were. You're dredging up stuff that's already been fully admitted by me. You seem to be trying awfully hard to sway folks against me and away from Mad. Why is that exactly? Why the need to go all the way back to day one, no day 2 quotes worthy to you?

Keep protecting him like this. It does the town good.
 
Went back to see if anything from mad stuck out to me and this is all I could find (directed to jl btw)

Madcrawdad said:
Interesting that you were able to peg mee-mee as a pirate from a couple of posts that didn't say all that much, yet even after Beth basically admits that she looks scummy you're able to have her leaning innocent...
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Pushing hard for a beth vote and slightly implicating jl...not sure what to make of this post. However nothing else except he questioned rb a lot but voted jm instead but...

problem is last night he voted Jm when rb had 5 and jm had only 3 (his vote making 4)...too risky imo. The pirates would have no control over the lynch if people decided to hop on jm instead, although rb was a better choice at the time (at least imo)...unless of the three remaining people (blueiz, myself, and meemee) there was one or two pirates left to vote...blueiz voted rb on reasons that she had earlier in the day and meemee stated her reason was because rb went after beth and wanted mg gone...stuff from day one which has me wondering why she never took any of rbs more recent posts as suspicious...

mee-mee said:
Well I guess I need to vote now. HHHMMM who should it be for this time...

JL or JP...since JP said I brought an amazing case against him and JL. Wow, the case was you and JL voted for me on day 1 without any reason mentioned whatsoever. HHHMMM, that is a Pirate voting. You vote for RB and give strong posts. But you still never said why you voted for me after JL did...even without a blink or a sneeze, just like JL did...

I am not going to wasted my vote on either of you at the moment.

RB wanted MG gone after his pming some folks here. And he went hard after Beth (who was an innocent)...

I vote to have RB walk the plank...
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Another thing is that she says that she would vote for me or jl, a logical vote seeing as that who she was focused on for the entire game basically, but that it would be wasted...even though she was the last to vote and rb was already in the lead by one vote, she decided to land hers there.

I am going to have to rethink my stance on meemee now
 
Lady G said:
Grins, I am just saying as far as who you are looking at as guilty...I agree, but would add possibly HN, Mal and LChap but take me off, I'm not saying they are all pirate, and I REALLY am not sure on HN I think there are 7 really since we had 2 guards.

Actually at this point I have no idea who is Blackbeard.
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At this point I think you'd better get as close to sure as an innocent can be. Because a regular old garden variety pirate isn't going to cut it. We have to find Blackbeard because according to Clown's game rules the captain is the ONLY pirate that Cooke can't protect. I think Blue is a pirate yes, but I don't believe she is Blackbeard. (feel free to tell us you're Blackbeard though Blue, that might be fun.). I think if it looks like Blue is going to be lynched (and some pirates might help make sure that happens), they'll merely laugh it up and have Cooke protect her and they'll carry out their hit on one of the power players. Who this time? The Gov so they win the game? Chances are they know who he is by now.
 
mee-mee said:
We need to go look and see who voted for her. Some of them are not pirates, but there are some who are. Alot of peeps went after her, for reasons I don't see what for. She changed her avatar to something different, and alot jump on her for it. What is so wrong with that. Alot of us have changed our avatars in the middle of a game, and nothing was said about that in previous games. If it was, it was only in light heartedness....
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I pulled this cause I agree with MM on this one.

Hooked Newbie said:
It sucks that we lost an innocent, but the avatar change wasn't the reason I voted and pressed for her. It was her reactions to things.

Maybe that's why she looked so guilty. So, you are playing admittedly different in this game? Interesting.
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Here, HN say's why he voted her. It was her reactions.

Grins said:
1) OK, so which man did not vote for Beth and of those which would the pirates consider the biggest threat? I'm thinking the clues will be there.

2) Beth, I'm sorry. I really wanted to help you make a case for someone else but I obviously misread your frustration as you tried to provide one.
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This I just pulled up because I thought maybe we should look at it.

IceH2O said:
JL
Jpap
Ice
Rb
Lupie
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And here are the guy's that didn't vote her...Ice-innocent, RB-innocent, Lupie-innocent. Maybe Jpap is too?? Maybe that is what the clue really was..NONE of the guy's that didn't vote her were Pirate??

Hooked Newbie said:
No specific questions. I would like to see your take, suspects, and analysis on the night's events though. I ran at Beth hard and I readily admit & regret it. You seem to have driven the point home and sealed her fate late today though. Her posting today was actually much more innocent looking than it was this weekend. Unfortunately, once I got off of work there was no way to do a good analysis of everything before night fell. I've re-read everything since and want to see your input before I put my vote on you.
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Here is the post I was originally looking for, NOW he say's WAY later he thought she may be innocent.

Madcrawdad said:
With regard to Beth, now that she's revealed as innocent, it's easy to say she looked more innocent of late...problem is, the damage was already done by then.

As far as you not having time to do any sort of analysis, your 1st post today was nearly 2 hours before nightfall, and an hour or so before nightfall you reaffirmed to Beth that you still thought she was guilty. So I'm not sure why you're saying she was seeming more innocent to you now.

With regard to stronger suspects, I mentioned earlier today (later in Day 1) that rb was starting to look more pirate, based on his claimed random vote for Judge, all while calling LG a pirate in the same post. His more recent silence is reminiscent of when he was lead vampire in the vamp wave.

another person of interest:

LChap: Went after folks who were on Beth early and claimed it was a train, yet he hopped on Beth late. Even after hopping on, he seemed to stick with the train assessment, but said that the pirates were lynching one of their own. Two problems with this: 1) People always bring up the 'sacrificial lamb', but in 20 waves, there's never been one 2) Tossing a teammate under the bus early on Day 1, isn't a very sound strategy - this is a numbers game. Almost looks like he could have been setting things in place for Day 2.
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Here, Mad make a good point about HN. Sorry but it is.

Now looking through this of the two, again...I see Mad as more innocent. Although I am rethinking my thought that they BOTH would not be pirate..I'm kinda wondering now if they both may be.
 
Hooked Newbie said:
LG- I've admitted being wrong about Beth, going hard at her, and what my last hour thoughts were. You're dredging up stuff that's already been fully admitted by me. You seem to be trying awfully hard to sway folks against me and away from Mad. Why is that exactly? Why the need to go all the way back to day one, no day 2 quotes worthy to you?

Keep protecting him like this. It does the town good.
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Actually, I'm starting at day one, sorry I find it all comes out in the end and starts in the first day. Working on day two now...
 
Grins said:
Might as well copy all my posts calling Beth guilty too. As well as everyone else that voted for her or helped to get others convinced she was a pirate. I know we weren't all pirates.
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Well, Beth if I was trying to decide between you and someone else, I very well may do that...but I'm not. I'm trying to see of HN and Mad, who would be pirate. I thought I said that at the beginning of the post, but maybe I didn't.
 
jpappy789 said:
Went back to see if anything from mad stuck out to me and this is all I could find
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Which now has me thinking you're both pirates. You have to answer my direct challenge asking the town to decide between you both but you of course don't want to say you're a pirate....but can't out Mad because he is the captain.

Thanks for helping me feel more sure that Mad is the captain now.
 
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