Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

night one was a good night. got a mafia and some none innocents

known innocents:

Plant-I would put plant as a known because she is the one that put the nail in the coffin for grace. I dont think a mafia would take the chance to lynch one of their own

Leaning innocent:
swayde-Mafia dont start trains.

Either way:
rb jl and cl: Could go either way with these guys

The votes:

5-Gracecat: Swayde; RB; Jl; Cl; Plant
5-Cory: Coler; Bethkira; Ogre; Hooked; Jpappy
2-Ogre: Gracecat; Enya
2-Rbishop: Jensons; Bkw
1-Hooked: Judge
2- Jensons: Ice; Lady G


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Im goin to be looking at the trow away votes
 
These are some posts I came across that seemed to be protecting Grace. I haven't made up my mind about them yet but thought I'd share.
Poor Ol'man Larson Lady thinks to herself, he is muttering about Commies now...so confused is he that he really doesn't realize what has happened here? The poor guy, his potatoes were his life (rumor has it he even sleeps with one) to have them striped away like that...just sad.

Lady notices Swayde talking about the new ppl in town with Ice, and how she wants to get rid of them. With all the strange happeining going on now, Lady certainly understands Swaydes concerns...but really in a time like this shouldn't we be there for the new ppl instead of tossing them out?

Lady has also heard talk of Ice and RB competing on making a water purifier, if only they could work together instead of against one another maybe they could get something done.

Lots of ppl are throwing accusations around at others...and this is only the beginning.
Lady G posted this a couple of hours after Swayde voted Grace. Could she be discouraging others from voting Grace as Grace is a new person and should be given a chance?

Or she is an innocent not on a team and has the enemy roles mixed up. If Stalker I think she'd know that her enemy are the Operatives and innocents.Her post actually lowered her back down a little on the list.
Ice is replying to RB's post about Grace and her comment on the Military Operatives, though I believe Ice was the one who originally pointed out to her that Military Op's were the good guys. However that could be his way of letting her know she'd messed up if he couldn't get to her on their board or thru chat.

Originally Posted by IceH2O
Or she is an innocent not on a team and has the enemy roles mixed up. If Stalker I think she'd know that her enemy are the Operatives and innocents.Her post actually lowered her back down a little on the list.
This actually makes sense to me....but don't hold that against me. She is new to the games, and the names are not the same as in any other game we have played.

On another note, I think that Ice, Coler and Hooked are playing differently than normal. I know it's been a bit for me (I'm not counting my Psycho stint, that was an odd, odd game), but we usually don't witch-hunt on Day One. It's usually given up to a "whatever happens, happens" mentality. The Day One contorversy intrigues me.

This is just an observation on my part. I am watching and absorbing info, trying to catch people with loose tongues.....

And the racial prejudice thing? That needs to stay out of the game, period. We are all friends here. It is important to think before we type, but i haven't seen any true mailce on the board since GraphicDesigner was a member. Quarreling that is to related to the game makes the Stalker types giddy, and gets in our way of rooting them out.....

Let's get them Stalker Scum!!!
Jensons agrees w/Ice about his post. Could she be jumping on this opportunity to make Grace look less evil?

The interactions between ice, grace, and Rb is what stands out to me first.
of the 3 newbs she is getting alot of attention from these two, granted of the 3 newbs she is the only one to post over 1 post.

IMO

1) They either are trying to get to her to slip up and reveal herself if she is a baddy.

2) they're tryin to create a slip up so that she can say something incriminating and then jump on it and have every one vote an innocent but giv a reason why they voted. This happend last game with EMO, the bad guys jumped at the chance to to sway voting based on emos bad grammer.


Im leaning toward #2 which would lead me to belive that either ice or rb is scummy. Both have nit picked at graces post, tryin to turn certain words or phrases into confessions or "slip ups"
Here BKW implies Grace is an innocent being set up by Ice or RB. A little later BKW votes RB. Could that be his way of drawing attention from Grace?

I think that Gracecat has made a couple of mistakes, so I think she is mafia and made a slip its possible. But could it also be a newb getting into the game and being overexcited perhaps. I think at this point it is something to watch.

Ogre I would like to know where the number came from as well, I don't know for certain if this is a slip or just confusion. Another one to watch

Ice and Rb have been jabbing at eachother the whole game so far, which is normal play I think for them. THey did it last game too and they were both innocent.
Beth states she thinks Grace is Mafia yet perhaps Grace is just overexcited? Could it be Beth wanted to look good in case Grace goes down but yet is not willing to vote her?

well at least we found out how many there really are.
I liked better when there were only four too.
I really wish that there was more to go on, Rb and Ice is just typical them.
Ogre has really kinda been cleared
Gracecat I think is new, and I am going to give her the benifit of the doubt. For Now.
I really hope that there is something more to go on soon, or most of the votes are going to be random ones
Beth states Gracecat is new. This was after JL had decoded the message so could Beth be making an excuse as to why she's not going to vote Grace?

Well, I have a class tonight and will try to get on between now and then and perhaps late tonight. Hope to hear other players thoughts on LG, Ice, Jensons, BKW, and Beth if they have not already stated them.
 
beth-6

No real thoughts or ideas have come from her. A lot of random posts that have no real use to the game

Ice- 5

so hard to tell...the early bickering with rb and the "late" vote on Jensons doesn't scream scum to me, but definitely things I am taking into account.

Lady G- 6

Like Ice, only getting a bad read from her. Though I find Jensons a little off as well so it would have to be either or for me

johnlarson-4

Voted Grace and helped decode...not a "for sure innocent" but pretty helpful

bkw-6

Went after rb than jumped on the ogre train, only to go back to rb later on the basis that RB "pointed out" the slip and never voted. My thoughts are that he was trying to get a train started on RB again...granted, RB may be evil, but this seemed odd to me. And the last post of his mentions two people that he thinks are innocent and 3 who could go either way...care to share who you actually think may be stalkers? Also curious is that he says he will be looking at the "throw away" votes, high-lighting the votes from Ice, G, and Jmax...but not his or Jensons on RB? Little things that seems weird to me...maybe signs of scum...

rbishop-5

playing similarily to last game IMO. Though consistency is crucial to mafia-playing...needs further watching before making a decision IMO.

enya-5

Only concern is the lack of posting...nothing to go on

judgemax- 8

The random outburst and jump to Hooked last night got my attention.

ogre-3

With the confusion about the number of stalkers cleared up I am giving him the benefit of the doubt atm.

Hooked-5

Haven't seen anything scummy except for the confusion about the decoded message. But that really isn't a concern of mine now.

Cory-6

Playing different than what I have seen and was VERY confident in the Ogre vote yesterday.

Plant-4

I was worried about the tie until I saw the outcome. Definitely an innocent until proven guilty for me.

Jensons-6

I didn't like her response to Lady G and a few of her other posts seem weird to me. Either her or LG IMO are stalkers...just have to figure who!

Coler-6

Like other people...are you still playing? Or laying low for a reason?

Swayde-5

Nothing to push me to either side as of now.


Sooooo...my top 6 are:

Jmax
Beth
Cory
Bkw
Coler
Jensons OR Lady G
 
Pretty quiet today. Hope to have posts to read if I can get on late tonight.

night one was a good night. got a mafia and some none innocents

known innocents:

Plant-I would put plant as a known because she is the one that put the nail in the coffin for grace. I dont think a mafia would take the chance to lynch one of their own

Leaning innocent:
swayde-Mafia dont start trains.

Either way:
rb jl and cl: Could go either way with these guys



Im goin to be looking at the trow away votes
I didn't have time to comment about this post earlier b/c I had to go get my kid from school and had started my post before I saw yours. This post confuses me a little. I'm flattered that you would consider me a known innocent, but I think your statement is only valid if CL is also a known innocent. But you have him as either way. While I have CL leaning innocent, I don't know for sure, but that you would consider me a known innocent makes me wonder if you know.
 
Day 2: Making a case for Jmax...

Here is where the whole Hn-Jmax thing begins

Just a curiousity here... why did you change your signature?

HUH? To you to?..I took out the always evil thing quite a few days ago?, and i deleted the link to fighting breeds, because it went under, but, thats been a few days, ..

P.S. i fixed curiosity for you to;)

Just curious about the change...

Why the need to correct my spelling error? They're are always plenty, but I don't remember any other corrections. Of coarse I could be wrong.

cause i am feeling nitpicky, and well, you gave me the opportunity, ..:) and, you wrong?..I am almost ready to faint, that you admitted there is even a slight possibility of it!

Notice any suspicion of Hn from Jmax because of the post? Me neither...

well, honestly, i think it was a mistake, and generally, i use the tones from other posts to judge whether it was a sinister mistake or not. the description of this game has some inconsistencies,and frankly, i am somewhat confused by this scheme myself, ..so, i am not jumping on a band wagon, just because its there, i still have twenty four hours to decide where my vote is best suited, .. so, thats why i have not voted OGRE yet.

Judge's reason for not jumping on ogre. Leaves it open for opinion...hard to question.

OK folks, uber busy to day, ..so, ..

I vote to toss HN into the zone,why he is picking on the fact that i changed my signature, LAST game, I don't know, seems like a week attempt to make something out of nothing..

Hoping to be back on by nightfall, but no guarantee's, I have dinner guests coming!

And now the turn around on Hn...out of nowhere, right?!

Below are her other posts...most are from earlier...

I understand whats going on here, judge thinks to herself, ...

They want me to slide back to my old ways, but I am stronger than that. Judge thinks about poor JL, he was there for her when she needed him. he helped her get back on her feet. maybe she should go find him, she had talked with G at work, and i guess everyone is a bit more than concerned for him. Hopefully she will get time to catch him at the morning meeting. ...

oh, that might work, lol, Send it overnight, lmao!

LMAO, WELL, I AM A MUTT, and darn proud of it, ..lol, German, Irish, Italian, American Indian, . and, I am sick:( ...some one mail me some cough syrup so I don't have to go out in the freezing cold , and ICE:(

Hey, jeez, ..I am on vacay! Even stalkers need a break every now and then! :lipssealedsmilie:

Judge secretly wishes she knew exactly what was inside the forbidden zones. She sighs in disbelief, that this has happened, to her beloved Acville. What happened to all of those dear people she called "friends"?.
She finds herself wandering paste MeeMee's old pastry shop, saddened by the fact, that so many that have passed through, yet are gone now. She heads back to her tiny dusty yellow house, and notices, that the ever persistent smell, that permeates the air, seems to be getting stronger.

Another day, another year, ..how much longer must we suffer?..

All meaningless banter basically. Notice how in none of her posts other than the vote for Hn has she come up with any suspects or any questions about anyone else in the game, even after a long day one. I think someone is trying to stay off the radar for a reason...

I vote to toss Judgemax into the zone
 
*waves* Thanks for letting me play guys! :)

We'll expect to see you in the next game.


OK, there are a lot of very good comments out there. Unfortunately several are contradictory.

John's all voting for grace are innocent thing
Hooked's (et al) throwaway votes

Two people that I think are innocent are being counted as evil by each other and several others... some of whom I think are innocent and some of whom I think are stalkers.

This is getting thick.

Personally, I think bkw's arguments are the best right now. John's go a little too far. I wouldn't hold it past the stalker team to sac someone hoping to get that instant innocent feel. On the other hand, he could be right too.

Sorry guys, headache, long day, no food = no sense from Kev...
 
We'll expect to see you in the next game.


OK, there are a lot of very good comments out there. Unfortunately several are contradictory.

John's all voting for grace are innocent thing
Hooked's (et al) throwaway votes

Two people that I think are innocent are being counted as evil by each other and several others... some of whom I think are innocent and some of whom I think are stalkers.

This is getting thick.

Personally, I think bkw's arguments are the best right now. John's go a little too far. I wouldn't hold it past the stalker team to sac someone hoping to get that instant innocent feel. On the other hand, he could be right too.

Sorry guys, headache, long day, no food = no sense from Kev...

The only problem I have with this is that a nice train was piling up on Cory as well and instead some voted Grace. But maybe Cory is stalker as well and felt that the would rather lose a newb day 1? Its a possibility.

If anyone who voted Grace is stalker I feel that it would have to be the earlier voters.
 
beth-6

No real thoughts or ideas have come from her. A lot of random posts that have no real use to the game

Ice- 5

so hard to tell...the early bickering with rb and the "late" vote on Jensons doesn't scream scum to me, but definitely things I am taking into account.

Lady G- 6

Like Ice, only getting a bad read from her. Though I find Jensons a little off as well so it would have to be either or for me

johnlarson-4

Voted Grace and helped decode...not a "for sure innocent" but pretty helpful

bkw-6

Went after rb than jumped on the ogre train, only to go back to rb later on the basis that RB "pointed out" the slip and never voted. My thoughts are that he was trying to get a train started on RB again...granted, RB may be evil, but this seemed odd to me. And the last post of his mentions two people that he thinks are innocent and 3 who could go either way...care to share who you actually think may be stalkers? Also curious is that he says he will be looking at the "throw away" votes, high-lighting the votes from Ice, G, and Jmax...but not his or Jensons on RB? Little things that seems weird to me...maybe signs of scum...

rbishop-5

playing similarily to last game IMO. Though consistency is crucial to mafia-playing...needs further watching before making a decision IMO.

enya-5

Only concern is the lack of posting...nothing to go on

judgemax- 8

The random outburst and jump to Hooked last night got my attention.

ogre-3

With the confusion about the number of stalkers cleared up I am giving him the benefit of the doubt atm.

Hooked-5

Haven't seen anything scummy except for the confusion about the decoded message. But that really isn't a concern of mine now.

Cory-6

Playing different than what I have seen and was VERY confident in the Ogre vote yesterday.

Plant-4

I was worried about the tie until I saw the outcome. Definitely an innocent until proven guilty for me.

Jensons-6

I didn't like her response to Lady G and a few of her other posts seem weird to me. Either her or LG IMO are stalkers...just have to figure who!

Coler-6

Like other people...are you still playing? Or laying low for a reason?

Swayde-5

Nothing to push me to either side as of now.


Sooooo...my top 6 are:

Jmax
Beth
Cory
Bkw
Coler
Jensons OR Lady G

If we assume the note was correct, there would only be five left....
 
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