Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

Man, this isn't looking good from a late vote switch, but I trust swayde...

I retract my vote on Jensons, and vote to toss lady g to the zone...


Just a major note for all of us....ice has agreeded with a lot of Lady Gs postings, and him recommending to keep the votes somewhat even, really ups him on my list as definitely stalker...
 
Kay I hate to ask this of you Lady G, but were you skimming? I gave an explanation in post #401, as to why I would ask If I was still alive. Which in fact came after I asked the question, so why would you ask that?

No, I wasn't skimming...I was making my post it was there after.

Well, it looks as though I am going tonight....for the record, I was following no-one, I would not follow anyone innocent or "mafia"...just posting thoughts as they came and can't help it if others feel the same.

Going back into work now...have a great game, but remember the game has advanced quite a bit and things that you do not think could (would) happen can and will.
 
Man, this isn't looking good from a late vote switch, but I trust swayde...

I retract my vote on Jensons, and vote to toss lady g to the zone...


Just a major note for all of us....ice has agreeded with a lot of Lady Gs postings, and him recommending to keep the votes somewhat even, really ups him on my list as definitely stalker...


Please post proof of that RB. I have seen the opposite where it appears that Lady G has been following Ice around.
 
No, I wasn't skimming...I was making my post it was there after.

Well, it looks as though I am going tonight....for the record, I was following no-one, I would not follow anyone innocent or "mafia"...just posting thoughts as they came and can't help it if others feel the same.

Going back into work now...have a great game, but remember the game has advanced quite a bit and things that you do not think could (would) happen can and will.

Is that a statement of fact from what has been given to the stalkers or you just funning us?
 
Please post proof of that RB. I have seen the opposite where it appears that Lady G has been following Ice around.

If she was just following Ice, he would ask for her not to just agree, but put up a case...unless some team effort was going on.
 
ok i made it home in record time.

Swad why investigate LG? and do you get another investigation? if so i agree that you should do Jenson, alot of people voted for her and if we find her status alot will be known.

Ice thats a funny plan,funny haha, not funny strange, for setting up Jmax to see which way she goes, but if she knows she is being setup and she's mafia then she obviously goes for her mafia friend. To big a chance to backfire.

If LG is guilty then thats 2 known innocents.
 
ok i made it home in record time.

Swad why investigate LG? and do you get another investigation? if so i agree that you should do Jenson, alot of people voted for her and if we find her status alot will be known.

Ice thats a funny plan,funny haha, not funny strange, for setting up Jmax to see which way she goes, but if she knows she is being setup and she's mafia then she obviously goes for her mafia friend. To big a chance to backfire.

If LG is guilty then thats 2 known innocents.

I explained why I chose LG a few posts back in response to Ice. I do not get any more investigates.
 
for swayde....you may read it different than me...

Ok, I'm back and ready to try and figure where my vote is going to land.....


This is the post that first drew my attention to Jensons...First she starts off with "what happened to RB and Grace", seemed a little concerned that people were not going for RB or Grace now...and seemed IMO to be pushing to get everyone back to questioning them. I have a feeling IF Jensons is a stalker that they will be found to be innocent.

Then the part about all the stalkers are on Orge as it would be a good "alibi", this statement just didn't sit well with me... also saying how she's not sure (which of coarse none of us are)she seems to me to be trying to put an "alibi" in for herself there.

Then adding "the only Civilian Scientist I am sure of is myself"...seems a little early in the game to be declaring your innocence..IMO.

First you would KNOW if you were a STALKER...second, think out loud all you want especially if you ARE a stalker it shows you a little more. You see I have a feeling you DO know one way or the other and now with the new information out making Ogre go up a little on the innocent side.. I think maybe you were NOT voting him because you DO know he is innocent and IF he was lynched you would look better.
Nope, not deflecting any attention from anything or anyone...as far as I saw I didn't need any "deflecting" as there was nothing to "deflect".


I just wanted to answer to you here Swayde, yes I have been more on the "low" side of posting this round, I actually am still having problems with my computer and really it was a busy weekend.


Ok, this has been covered already I know but I just read it so I have to add that this make you seem well, off. You are usually very accurate with your accusations and this could be a honest mistake yes...but it could also be a confusion tactic...

Another thought here...Jmax, now of coarse HN has raised some suspicion in my eyes, but at the time of your vote on him..well he didn't seem suspicious IMO, and your reason is just "reaching" IMO.

I want to add my suspicions on Cory are pretty much the WAY he went after Ogre, yes my vote was there also along with many others...but Cory you were pretty hard core on it.

With this I would like to say I vote to toss Jensons in the zone

The fact that Jensons also pushed Grace as pointed out by LG was also a factor.

You guys can think what you want, all of you jump on me instead since we have numbers I'll be more then glad to be an innocent sacrifice.

Had my suspicions but couldn't pull the trigger. I was more sure of Jensons.

I'll have to look closer at Cory but just from memory I'm not willing to vote that way.

I still like Jensons and I vote to throw Jensons into the Zone I also think that a few people freaked that I put my name on her and then when LG did it really made them nervous.

I have

Jensons
Ogre
HN

as my top 3.

An eye on

JM
Beth
Bkw

If I get an investigation it will be 1 of those 6.

WOO-WHOOO!!! Great job guys/gals!!!!

Honestly, Cory has raised quite a bit on the stalker side for me. His posts about Ogre really stood out.

Sorry, but I do still believe there is something to Jensons. I did not "suddenly" come out against her as she said, I talked about her before and am still very suspicious of her. Jensons, it was more then a "feeling" it was your posts and the way you chose to word them that DID make me FEEL you are questionable.

You know I was trying to get on here and get my post made before nightfall, I can't help that Ice posted about her also. I had started the post before I was done with supper, then finished when I was done.

I have somethings to get done now and will be back later this evening with some more thoughts on Cory and Jensons along with a couple other things that stood out to me as nightfall got here.

RB, be prepared for some "late night" posting from me:raspberry:

Ok, guys I haven't been on as much as I normally am with this game so I am doing a general observation here on how I feel about each person..now that I have a few issues taken care of I should be able to be on more...

Beth-Well, Beth has my eye...she seems to be just going with the motion so to say. Not really diggin much and basing posts on others pretty much.

Ice-Have to say I lean him more innocent then some, his start out play was very "innocent" Ice IMO yes he jumped all over the place, but he does do that more so innocent trying to get someone to slip up or get more of a feel for them.

JL-Really just not sure on him, really does seem to post more for the town but he is a hard one for me really always has been, I find myself always going back and forth with him in my head..so far nothing really has stood out to me though.

Bkw-Another I have a hard time with, usually once the game gets going more I can get more of a read on him...again nothing really has stood out to me.

Pap-Well, I have my lil tiger here, leaning more innocent this round, his thoughts seem to be to help.

gracecat-Known Stalker

rwspear76-Known Innocent

RB-Well, Big Daddy...what can I say I have him innocent one post, Stalker the next..then back to innocent.

Enya-Where is she??? I want to lean her more innocent, simply b/c if she was a Stalker you would think her team mates would be telling her to not lay this low...it really make you question her more then if she was posting, although with what happened with Grace, maybe they did tell her not to post, but IMO they would want her to at least post a few more post...heck even tell her what to post if they were too worried she'd mess up. BUT since she has choosen not to post she really raises my suspicions. So I have to say I am leaning her more Stalker.

Jmax-Well, she is always evil!!! Her case on HN was very questionable I have her leaning more Stalker also.

Ogre-Well, like most I had him leaning Stalker till Z posted the "code" post. So I had him leaning innocent, now I have thought more about the post that got us all worried about him..yes this is going to sound very "Lady G" but a thought came to me...do you think he posted the number wrong on purpose, trying to get us to think there were less Stalkers then there really were? Not sure which way I lean him I can't help but wonder, maybe Z posted that to "bust" him instead of "clear" him now that I have thought more about it, this really makes since to me...if he posted there were only 4 knowing there were 6...seems helpful for the stalkers to me.

Hooked-I have him leaning more Stalker too, sorry but that post in the begining about me playing like a evil Ice..then saying if Ice is innocent I am a stalker..really made me feel more like he was setting something up for future nights.

Cory-Well, leaning stalker I do not think the Grace "train" cleared him.

Plant-Not sure yet, now that I have thought about it, she really could of been "saving" Cory for more of a reason then she thought he was innocent. Her vote was so last minute really makes me wonder if both Cory and Grace were Stalkers and she saved their "leader".

Jensons-Stalker, her post about those on Orge were stalkers trying to get an alibi just sent chills through me, claiming her innocence so early, posting as if a known innocent, it all just adds up to scum to me.

Coler-Have a feeling he is going to UD, although I find it interesting more have not commented on this. Although if I remember correctly he HAS UDed evil a couple times, I have him leaning Stalker...if he doesn't UD he will be #1 on my list.

Swayde-Well, her vote for Grace really makes her lean innocent to me. She has posted nothing that seems scum IMO and I don't think a Stalker would vote another right from the start.
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Vote tally as of this post

Day 2

Beth 1 Sway(341)
Ice 1 Jenson(382)
LG
JL
Bkw 1 HN(380)
Jpap
RB
Enya 1 Cory(381)
JM 1 Jpap(357)
Ogre
HN
Cory
Plant
Jenson 3 Ice(327)RB(368)JL(378)
Coler
Sway

No votes: Beth LG Bkw Enya JM Ogre Plant Coler

We need to be careful to not get to spread out.At least 4 of my suspects still have not voted, of the other 4 that haven't 1 or 2 might UD (Coler,Enya) so that only leaves 2 innocents left to vote. The Stalkers could still pile 5 players onto 1 player so 5 is kind of the magic number right now.

There are 11 innocents vs 5 stalkers right now with 2 impending UDS which could realistically put it at 9 to 5. If the innocents split among 2 players then the stalkers could just drop onto a 3rd. Right now the only innocents(IMO) I see with a vote on them is me and Enya. If Enya UDs that won't do them any good.Watch for movement and where votes are placed and that should give a great idea on who is what.

Corys vote kind of bothers me on Enya, if you wanted to make her talk the vote should have been placed much earlier, then you say you that in case you can't get back on the next day you want to place a vote. Well if I thought there was even a slight chance that I couldn't get back on I'd make sure my vote was on someone I and others suspected highly, not a player that has 3 posts and might UD. IF Cory is Stalker( I'm starting to lean that way) I'd probably drop HN off my list.At 1st I thought him and JM might be distancing but HN has a lot of the same suspects as I do.
 
Does anyone think we should try to keep the votes close between Jensons and LG? There are 16 players playing and 3 haven't voted yet. Enya and Coler I think won't and that leaves JM as the tie breaker. Be interesting to see which way she goes.

If all 14 vote and we have a 7-6 situation will the last player make it 7-7 or 8-6?

All a moot point if Coler or Enya vote beforehand as it couldn't end up tied if 1 votes and the other doesn't unless JM doesn't either.
Umm, this sounds a bit too risky. Too many uncontrolled variables and too little time to think on it. For some reason this makes you less innocent in my eyes.
 
Man, this isn't looking good from a late vote switch, but I trust swayde...

I retract my vote on Jensons, and vote to toss lady g to the zone...


Just a major note for all of us....ice has agreeded with a lot of Lady Gs postings, and him recommending to keep the votes somewhat even, really ups him on my list as definitely stalker...

Everything LG has posted has been after I brought up the same thing. She just brought it a step further in detail. I thought we just saw the same things.

As for the keeping the votes close I wanted to see who would go where and who would stay. IF Jensons ended up an innocent we could read a lot into who decided to stay on Jensons.

We know LG is evil but because she and I agreed doesn't make me evil.But its interesting you said that RB. What makes it interesting would be the fact that you say that to get me lynched next if enough people were to follow your logic and get retribution for losing one of your team mates.
 
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