Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

[johnlarson66]

My game life.

Ice just made what I think is the first complete slip I've ever seen from him. I have no strong multi-quoted case, but something's been "different" about him this game. He's yet to question me at all even when I've admittedly made mistakes that would be easy to build on. That is odd, considering I voted for him on day 1. As an innocent, he is usually very "in your face". Vote for me and suffer the case making wrath of Ice. Not this game though... Also the post saying that the only thing keeping him alive was him looking guilty is suspicious. C'mon Ice... you're scum. Make a bogus case on me or have me hit to solidify it. I have time to be online now.

Ice, JM, and ??

HN, there are only 2 left!

 

[johnlarson66]

opcorn:

This ought to be interesting. A ride on the Ice train sure sounds inviting.

What is the price to ride?

My game life.

Sounds like a price I am willing to pay.

I vote to toss IceH2O into the zone.

I am on the train. Let's see who else rides.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Ice, have another drink and post some more.

Plantling was a power role, so I can see how you thought she was a stalker. I think it is odd that you would forget who you hit so quickly.

You seem like a stalker, but I have a few questions before I vote.

Why were you so doubtful about Swayde having the investigation and almost defending LG? It was a done deal and it seemed like you were trying to cast some doubt. I understand questioning about it, but it was generally understood that Swayde would be gone if it was a lie and it really made no sense at this point in the game for her to lie.

Now everyone will have Swayde 100% innocent, which is a little scary, but she is the one I trust the most. I am not so sure about 100%, but 90%.

Your name seems to pop up on a few lists. I wonder who plantling suspected.

I will say this, there are only two left. I do not remember a game that has had so many variables as far as who could be teamed up. I think there has been so good distancing going on.

I am going to try to put together an either or list. My "suspects" (which is a term that is real loose) is as follows:

HN
JM
Ice
BKW
RB
Ogre

HN, there are only 2 left!

True, but yet you're still listing 6 suspects?

My best right now are Ice & JM. If either of them are in fact innocent, I think you're it.

 

[johnlarson66]

Well, Beth did say she was on medication but I thought both Ogre and BKW said they were gonna be on last night.


I'm pretty sure LG is the 4th Stalker. Just in case I am marked for death tonight I suspect these:

Ice/JM- I think either or but then with the distancing the bad guys are doing these days, ya never know. Wish I'd quoted it but in post 486 Jensons seemed to suspect Ice quite a lot. And it almost seemed like he tried to save LG night 2 even though he's explained it. Then again last night, real time, he suggested LG might be the innocent and Swayde might be the Stalker. If he's not a Stalker then JM prolly is.

BKW- He still has me puzzled over how I can be labeled a confirmed innocent. His sudden quietness doesn't ease my suspicions.

After rereading his posts, I think RB is just a cranky Mod. I so remember my last game and you decided to tweek things w/Brains 2.

Here is plantling's last post. I do not understand if he isn't then JM is, what if he is, does that mean JM is not?

I miss the connection. I wish I would have asked before.

 

[judgemax]

well, i said ice was my next suspicion, and I am willing to hop on the train, ..
I have never seen him hold on to such a week suspicion, like he is with me, ..and i am still doubting everything he says, and well, the more he says the scarier it gets.

So without further ado, ..I vote to toss ice into the zone

I get the worst stalker "vibe " from him, and am at a loss as to who the other may be.

I am guessing if its not Ice, Hn is guilty, it seems to me, he pounced, and he only does that when he feels he is 100% right, or he is guilty, ..

 

[johnlarson66]

True, but yet you're still listing 6 suspects?

My best right now are Ice & JM. If either of them are in fact innocent, I think you're it.

So now I have joined your list. Odd. I thought you had me leaning innocent. Almost smells of OMGUS.

I posted "suspects" and noted that it was a loose list. Maybe I should have stated "leaning stalker".

I think I can say the same about you, if either or both are innocent, you are next. I think many more would agree with me.

I think my list of 6 is very reasonable at this point, I am fairly sure both stalkers left are on that list.

 

[Cory Lover]

Sway all I really have on JM is her reason for voting HN, then her last second vote onto LG which tells me that if the Jenson hit was blown I think they weren't around/it was to late to switch it to another player.

JM was a last minute voter, Jpap wasn't around that day and had his vote on Cory and not Grace Day 1. Though the more I think about it Jpap has been more helpful than Cory. Cory voting for Grace could be a byproduct of Cory also being a stalker.


I'm thinking its either

JM Jpap

JM Cory

Cory Plantling -- This ones starting to make more sense. If Cory is a stalker and Grace we know was one.At the time of Plantlings vote it was 5-4 Cory and Plantling tied it up. If they were going to lose a stalker anyway why not be the one to tie and either way they show up stalker and Plantling looks good.

Thanks Ice...you've now made my vote alot easier. I vote to toss Ice into the zone.

Just like LG, you are trying to cast suspicions on me, and keep going back to the first night vote. You are trying TOO hard...and look what it did. Plus, you did defend LG somewhat and try to cast suspicion on Swayde.

Matt

 

[johnlarson66]

Hooked, since only 2 real questions popped out to you and there are three questions, I can only assume that one of the questions in not real. I am guessing that it is question #2. It seems more like a statement than a question.

My thoughts on you, is that after Lady G is found to be a stalker, then are my top suspect. I most likely will be voting for you the next day. I am flip flopping between you and Judgemax, but I don't think you both can be stalkers. If I had to vote today, which I don't, I would vote for you.

I am in no way trying to have any deniablity. I just would like to discus what is on my mind and try to find out what is on others minds. Even though Lady G is going to the zone, I think we can still talk about others.

So you now know that I have you as my top suspect, how do you feel about me?

Still not sure about you and have been back and forth all game, mostly innocent though. I totally agree with discussing others besides LG including me if need be. I fully believe that JM is a stalker and have for awhile though. The biggest curiousity to me about your post, besides asking multiple people their thoughts prior to putting your's out, was that you based it off of LG's list which included 2 scum that she apparently knew were going to UD. To think she'd include 1/2 her total team on a list of 6 strikes me as odd considering she would've gained "credibility" based on the UDs. If it hadn't been for the move by Swayde, we might all be viewing LG as suspected innocent right now.

I'm beginning to understand how others feel about always being called evil though. I don't get it... when I am scum people believe me. When I'm not, I look evil.

I agree with most of what you have posted here. For the record, I had put out that I was suspicous of you based on Lady G's lists. As far as her posting 3 of 6 or 2 of 6 on her early list, so should we clear all of the 4 names she listed? I am not even sure who all was on there, off the top of my head, Beth and Cory come to mind, but who else? I will post back.

For the record I have those two leaning innocent.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

So now I have joined your list. Odd. I thought you had me leaning innocent. Almost smells of OMGUS.

I posted "suspects" and noted that it was a loose list. Maybe I should have stated "leaning stalker".

I think I can say the same about you, if either or both are innocent, you are next. I think many more would agree with me.

I think my list of 6 is very reasonable at this point, I am fairly sure both stalkers left are on that list.

It's not OMGUS no matter how you try to portray it. You posted 3X the number of suspects as there are stalkers and then questioned my 1.5X post. I have had you as mostly innocent throughout. When have I voted for you? I do tend to speak my mind and vote it afterall. I think you're right about the last two being on your list, but what are your BEST two suspects? Anyone can post a list large enough to include the guilty, it's called casting a wide net. I stand by my best two of Ice & JM though I do want to hear from Ogre, Rb, & Bk. They're too good to be this quiet if innocent.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

I can relate. I think most people have me back and forth. I do not think I would want it any other way.

I think there are a few that will always be high suspects. I would put myself, you and Ice up on that list. Not to speak for Ice, but I am guessing he likes it that way also.

I agree with most of what you have posted here. For the record, I had put out that I was suspicous of you based on Lady G's lists. As far as her posting 3 of 6 or 2 of 6 on her early list, so should we clear all of the 4 names she listed? I am not even sure who all was on there, off the top of my head, Beth and Cory come to mind, but who else? I will post back.

For the record I have those two leaning innocent.

Funny that you'd choose to reference the same post twice and so spread apart (even though you only chose a snippet the first time).