Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

[johnlarson66]

Why not be? I don't see a reason for the game MOD to lie about it.

Very true. Game MODS never lie.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Should I vote for someone I don't think is guilty?

My best thought is Jensons. I think she tried to implicate both Ogre and RB because they were the ones most looked at ATM. She never gave a reason to why Ogre might be innocent.

The only reason I can think of for you to say it'll be very telling who is hit tonight is because you are Stalker and don't plan on hitting me. So when I'm not hit you can point me out as not being on either innocent player and try to get me lynched. You'll be better off just hitting me.

No one gets hit tonight and I have nothing to do with anything. The reason for saying that was to see who responded to it and how.

I knew other players woud be capable of converting the morse code and I that others would know that is was morse code. Anyone caught altering the message would be a stalker.

What has me curious is why ZSandmann put it out there. To save Ogre? To save him because why? Is he the Doctor? Is he a Civilian Scientist? Is he Military? Is he a Stalker? This has been bothering me.

Make no doubt, ZSandmann saved Ogre. The question is why.

I agree, but don't think we should dwell on it.

I am not sure there is a hit tonight, hooked...

There isn't. You're the only one to note that though.

To add to my post if I were doing it to distance I'd have done it later in the day.

I figure an hour is more then enough time for people to look and think for themselves. Maybe some of the players aren't sold on Grace or Cory and what I presented made sense to them.

Are you trying to protect Jensons there HN? Afraid others will follow onto her?

Nope. I'd vote her if saw something more incriminating. Your late vote on someone not at risk is of note. (You've brought up the same thing in past games).

 

[johnlarson66]

Most games are "tweaked" a bit.

 

[Lady G]

Ok, I'm back and ready to try and figure where my vote is going to land.....

"Slipped" as in typed before he thought and thus put erroneous information out there that was conjecture in his head, not a fact he could prove. It happens. I am not protecting him, just thinking out loud in the thread. I am really not certain that he is a stalker, but I am also not certain that he is not.

To me, rb is acting strangley. I don't now for sure though, as I don't recall playing with him, but his posting style is far different here than on the boards.

What happened to thinking rb was scum?

And what happened to drop Gracecat off the radar? Everyone was gunning for her, and now it's like she's disappeared. Her posting was a bit strange, and to skip twice seems silly on review of everything that was posted to correct her (this goes against my previous statement on the subject, I know).

I am willing to bet that all the Stalkers are on Ogre right now, whether or not he is. This train looks promising as an alibi, if one were to need it.

The only Civilian Scientist I am sure of is myself.

I don't know who I will vote for yet. I need to review a bit.

This is the post that first drew my attention to Jensons...First she starts off with "what happened to RB and Grace", seemed a little concerned that people were not going for RB or Grace now...and seemed IMO to be pushing to get everyone back to questioning them. I have a feeling IF Jensons is a stalker that they will be found to be innocent.

Then the part about all the stalkers are on Orge as it would be a good "alibi", this statement just didn't sit well with me... also saying how she's not sure (which of coarse none of us are)she seems to me to be trying to put an "alibi" in for herself there.

Then adding "the only Civilian Scientist I am sure of is myself"...seems a little early in the game to be declaring your innocence..IMO.

Oh, my. It seems that one can't think out loud without being called a Stalker. I have reservations about Ogre being a Stalker. If I am wrong, so be it. How could anyone KNOW at this point? We can't. Trying to deflect attetion from yourself, G?

As I may not get anoher chance before nightfall,

I vote to toss RB into the Zone.

Don't have any clear evidence, this is a "gut feeling" vote, partially supported by the tone of his posting. He has also not really responded to my thoughts on him, a sign that maybe he doens't want to appear defensive and have the heat brought down.

~brandy

First you would KNOW if you were a STALKER...second, think out loud all you want especially if you ARE a stalker it shows you a little more. You see I have a feeling you DO know one way or the other and now with the new information out making Ogre go up a little on the innocent side.. I think maybe you were NOT voting him because you DO know he is innocent and IF he was lynched you would look better.
Nope, not deflecting any attention from anything or anyone...as far as I saw I didn't need any "deflecting" as there was nothing to "deflect".

That is an awful lot of experienced players piling up on Ogre's train with very minimal efforts at turning over rocks to find more baddies. I don't like it. It gives me a very bad feeling. I've seen too many games where an innocent person makes an honest mistake and it gets totally blown up on them by one of the more vocal people and they end up with a large train because others are too afraid not to go with their own thoughts because it might look bad later on. And in the end, it gets blown over because, hey they made the mistake and looked like a bad person.

I am concerned that there are so many people who haven't voted as well. I know it was a busy weekened for me, perhaps it is for others, but some of those non voters do have several posts over the weekend. Hope we don't end up with a lot of innocents facing untimely deaths.

I still have a very bad feeling about Grace. People have sorta tried to defend her by saying, well she's a newbie, maybe she got the roles mixed up. Yeah maybe, but I am not so sure. For the first slip, yeah could be a mistake, but the second time after people had pointed out the first one really makes my evil alarm bells ring.

LG you sure a tame this round...not sure how to take that to be honest.

I'm keeping my vote on Grace because I do believe she's the most likely to be evil that I've seen so far.

I sincerely hope I am wrong about Ogre and that you guys are all right. Would be an excellent achievement for us to nail one on the first night and Ogre does seem to have a tendency to get discovered fairly quickly as an evil person.

I just wanted to answer to you here Swayde, yes I have been more on the "low" side of posting this round, I actually am still having problems with my computer and really it was a busy weekend.

Yes you are. JL posted the translation as saying three. That was before I went to a translator myself to verify. Like I said, was my first thought was that it would be a great opportunity for scum to edit (if the original from Z said 4) in order to protect Ogre. I'm not confused, except maybe about where you got the number 6 from.

Ok, this has been covered already I know but I just read it so I have to add that this make you seem well, off. You are usually very accurate with your accusations and this could be a honest mistake yes...but it could also be a confusion tactic...

Another thought here...Jmax, now of coarse HN has raised some suspicion in my eyes, but at the time of your vote on him..well he didn't seem suspicious IMO, and your reason is just "reaching" IMO.

I want to add my suspicions on Cory are pretty much the WAY he went after Ogre, yes my vote was there also along with many others...but Cory you were pretty hard core on it.

With this I would like to say I vote to toss Jensons in the zone

 

[Hooked Newbie]

The Stalkers will be busy tonight, there is no hit.

No hit, but they'll be busy....

Guessing that they'll get an investigation? I really hope they don't investigate me.

 

[johnlarson66]

I agree, but don't think we should dwell on it.

I agree and I think there are better things to talk about.

Nope. I'd vote her if saw something more incriminating. Your late vote on someone not at risk is of note. (You've brought up the same thing in past games).

I agree. It is a strange vote with an hour left.

One of the reasons I didn't vote for enya or coler. I also am unsure if Coler is playing at this point.

It is odd that grace and enya have not changed their votes or even talked about the morse code message.

 

[OgreMkV]

I've been thinking about this since I made my retraction. Jensons post about Ogre

pretty much looked to me as if she was saying that Ogre was a stalker. If he slipped he is a stalker, if he is trying to draw attention away from a stalker then he is a stalker. Then she implicates RB.

I think neither is stalker.

I retract my vote on RB and vote to throw Jensons into the Zone

This sounds... odd to me. So Jenson's one post made you change the tune you've been working almost since the beginning?

To me it's very curious that you come off of RB just as he ties me in the votes for the evening... are you trying to generate a tie or control who gets tossed indirectly? Cause it sure seems like that.

Interesting that you'd place a vote there since we have less than an hour left... seems you want to distance yourself from either "main" choice. Even after jumping so quick onto Ogre. It'll be very telling to see who gets hit tonight.

Agree

Kay I have sat here thinking which is driving me nuts, I am torn now, I think it is very anti-town that Cory was so certain that Ogre is a stalker(which he could be). He didn't bother to look at anyone else.......and he may not have time to get back on and review before nightfall. So he wouldn't see the new info and have time to change his vote.

Gracecat was the last to vote for Ogre and she had time to see the new info and change her vote. And yet she hasn't, she potentially had two "slips" which could be chalked up to Newbiness, but if you take the vote and the two slips it really looks like she is a stalker.

I hate thinking that Cory could be innocent and he just couldn't get back on to acnge his vote, and Gracecat is new so I would hate to vote her.

Who was it said "Newbie doesn't equal innocent"?

Should I vote for someone I don't think is guilty?

I think some are looking for some consistency from you. You have strong opinions (not unlike someone else who plays this a lot... ahem) and tend to carry them through to the end.

I don't think anyone is suggesting you vote for those that you think innocent, but sudden turns with strange reasons are curious... wouldn't you agree?

My best thought is Jensons. I think she tried to implicate both Ogre and RB because they were the ones most looked at ATM. She never gave a reason to why Ogre might be innocent.

Sorry, but even I think that one is pretty obvious. Why state the same dang thing for the tenth time?

The only reason I can think of for you to say it'll be very telling who is hit tonight is because you are Stalker and don't plan on hitting me. So when I'm not hit you can point me out as not being on either innocent player and try to get me lynched. You'll be better off just hitting me.

I think you can say that with safety because you are a stalker too.

I knew other players woud be capable of converting the morse code and I that others would know that is was morse code. Anyone caught altering the message would be a stalker.

What has me curious is why ZSandmann put it out there. To save Ogre? To save him because why? Is he the Doctor? Is he a Civilian Scientist? Is he Military? Is he a Stalker? This has been bothering me.

Make no doubt, ZSandmann saved Ogre. The question is why.

Me too...

Z posted about that in post 229

So you know anything that is directly game related that I say is preplanned for release.

It just seems suspicious that it came right after I ended up on the chopping block.

My top stalker choices right now are
Ice
Grace
CoryLover

secondary choices leaning stalker are
hooked
JMax
RB

leaning innocent
bkw
Jensons

Grace, well, I agree with many of the previous comments about her. Several slips and some curious things happening there. Jensons because I like schoolteachers and she's suddenly a target when there wasn't any advance warning at all.

I'd be willing to put small sums of money on my top three stalker choices.

BTW: Because of the size and fluid nature of this game, it would probably be a good idea for all innocents to keep updated lists and reasonings... stalkers can just say what they are and we'll get to you in a bit.

 

[jpappy789]

No Votes: plantling
4-Gracecat: Swayde; RB; Jl; Cl
5-Cory: Coler; Bethkira; Ogre; Hooked; Jpappy
2-Ogre: Gracecat; Enya
1-Rbishop: Jensons; Bkw
1-Hooked: Judge
2- Jensons: Ice; Lady G

So this is what I have...please let me know if stuff is wrong.

Anyways of the top two vote getters I am fine with either atm, and Jensons as well. My vote will stay but I am interested to see where plantling goes and if any votes will be moved...

 

[johnlarson66]

No hit, but they'll be busy....

Guessing that they'll get an investigation? I really hope they don't investigate me.

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[jpappy789]

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Haha I agree!:grinyes:

Though typical Hn...always thinks he is the target...