Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

Why would the stalkers use the The Golden Sphere!?

Why wouldn't the stalkers try to get Coler and Enya to atleast post a vote of some sort? Well, maybe they did. I see a post where Lady G names Coler and Enya as possible stalkers. Did she know they were not coming back?


Why wouldn't they try to use it?

How do you know they didn't try? It seemed like Coler quit over the potato thing. Enya, well she was new and maybe she just didn't realize how it important it was to check in on the game frequently.

LG probably did give up on them when she was getting no responses. RB mentioned there was a possible lack of communication from the bad guys (I still say that makes him look very suspect, almost like he's venting his anger at being on a dysfunctional team).

Not really sure where you are trying to go with this post JL.
 
Why wouldn't they try to use it?

How do you know they didn't try? It seemed like Coler quit over the potato thing. Enya, well she was new and maybe she just didn't realize how it important it was to check in on the game frequently.

LG probably did give up on them when she was getting no responses. RB mentioned there was a possible lack of communication from the bad guys (I still say that makes him look very suspect, almost like he's venting his anger at being on a dysfunctional team).

Not really sure where you are trying to go with this post JL.

It looks to me like most of the effects of the device were bad for the stalkers.

I am not really trying to go anywhere, just thinking and talking about a few things.
 
Game sorta off// hey guys sorry bout the lack of pots i am on my anti-depressants and they are making feel weird so I am going to the docotrs, I won't be able to post until maybe tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvience. I promise I will be back.//game on
 
Lg, I'm not that easily convinced. And since everyone left are experienced players, I don't think they will go for it either. My vote will remain on you.
 
This post is from 02-06-2008, 09:34 AM, before Swayde told about the investigation.

Well, wanted to get a quick post in before work (yes I work day shift today)...anyway you never know what will come up so I wanted to get my vote in.

Jensons, Cory, Beth, Enya, and Coler with HN sliding in there are my tops right now. I know there are only 5 left and I named 6 but I always end up with more suspects then there are evils...anyway Jensons and Cory seem to stand out the most to me. Beth just seems to of fallen out of the game along with Enya and Coler..now if they all three are Stalkers that seems very weird and if they posted more I could maybe get more of a feel for them, since they aren't though they are up there in my tops.

I do not like how Cory voted saying he wanted to get his vote in "in case he can't get back on" but in the same post says how IF Enya starts talking he may move his vote??? Just seems to me if you are not sure you will be here to change your vote, why place it on someone to try and "make them talk"?

Anyway I vote to toss Jensons into the zone

The part I find interesting is this "Jensons, Cory, Beth, Enya, and Coler with HN sliding in there are my tops right now." We no know that Jensons was the Doctor and Enya and Coler were stalkers. At this point Lady G must have known they were out of the loop and was willing to give up on them. Plus they are low on her list. She puts Jensons and Cory up top, "Jensons and Cory seem to stand out the most to me." and lumps Beth with the two known Stalkers, "Beth just seems to of fallen out of the game along with Enya and Coler..now if they all three are Stalkers that seems very weird and if they posted more I could maybe get more of a feel for them, since they aren't though they are up there in my tops." She has HN on her list, but gives no reason.

With this information, I have Cory a little more innocent and Beth a little more evil (just a little). I want to compare this list to her list she made yesterday. The mention of HN, but no reasoning, moves HN a little more evil to me also.

So Lady's G list, before she was accused of being a stalker was:

Jensons - innocent doctor
Cory
Beth
Enya - known stalker
Coler - known stalker
HN
 
This is from Yesterday, 03:11 PM after she was spared by the sphere and is generally thought to be a stalker:

Well have to head to work, just wanted to get this out there first.

I think all should really look at things and keep in mind that of recent games we have seen the "mafia" do things we would not think they would...hence the reason they do it..we all say things but it is never done, why would they not take advantage of those thoughts??

Anyway for what it's worth, I would say Swayde, Orge and Hooked would be my top choices at this point. Possibles would be Cory, Beth.

I will be back on when I get home we have a little over 24 hours and getting another stalker would be GREAT!!!

Cory is now not number 2, but dropped to a possible as with is Beth. To me this makes them both very low on any stalker list.

Now her top 3 (assuming she is a stalker, there are 2 left) are Swayde (the person claiming she is a stalker), Orge (who was almost tossed into the zone and there is still a little air of doubt on him, and HN (to my memory, who is not on anyones list besides Judgemax). Well I suspect HN, but I also suspect Judgemax. Once again I do not see the case Lady G has made for HN, but has his name out there. That has what brought HN more to my attention.

Also to top it off, Lady G votes for plantling. It would not suprise me to see plantling hit tonight. Since the last person Lady G voted for (Jensons) was hit that night or was supposed to be hit. I have plantling leaning innocent, but just barely, Lady G voting for her could be just distancing.

I am leaining Ogre, Cory and Beth more innocent and HN more evil. I also see no way that both Judgemax and Hooked Newbie are stalkers. So at this point, I am leaning judgemax more innocent.

I would like to hear others thoughts about HN. I am a little concerned about some of the comments made by Ice and would like to know his thoughts on HN. I also have seen BKW thrown out as a suspect, but really have not heard much of his thoughts, I would like to know his thoughts on HN also.

I think I have mentioned everyone except jpap and rb in the last two posts. I should have done a list. Maybe tommorrow. I think jpap has been helpful and some of the things he has posted has made me think about things. I have him leaning innocent. I think rb is too much of a mod and is freaking out about small stuff, like rules. I remember the da(mn) blue mist putting the game in termoil and mystery players. I remember one game where I was mafia and we were rolling along and we lost, we blamed rb. None of us complained in the thread, but amoung eachother we were mad. Real mad. I think if rb was a stalker, he would keep his complaining in the talk with other stalkers. I think he is just a frusterated game mod and sees the shortcomings of this game set-up. Which by the way, I like. I think the different tech devices should have been listed, but it was posted that there were some. I took it for granted that they were to benefit the stalkers, it seemed that would be the case. I see no reason why he is so bent about it. He was also posting about the stalkers and seemed to be right on track, maybe he was trying to get them to communicate more by posting what he did on the thread. Seems like he could have some inside information. I have rb leaning innocent.

I think that gets everyone. I have to be away from my computer for a bit, I might be able to be around at night, hard to be sure. I can post in waves. I also might go see a hockey game here, they have a semi-pro team. Not real sure yet.
 
Ummm maybe because she's already found you out as 1 of the 3 last stalkers. 3 minus 1 equals 2.

I really don't think any of the other effects of the sphere were that desirable to the Stalkers. What good would the vote of a dead person do or the void of a survivor's vote as the votes have been landslides? What good would muting a player do or making the day last another 24 hours when everyone's minds have been set on you already?

LOL, this seals the deal for me that you are a Stalker. If it were me I'd make a case against and vote someone I knew was a Stalker, the person who lied about their investigation, not someone who might only be doing what they think is best for the town. Perhaps you figured Swayde had too much credibility at this time to get a train started on her and that less people trusted me?

IMO the Stalkers wouldn't be paranoid because they already know who the innocents are. My only plan is to vote out as many Stalkers as I can. Rest assured if you are innocent I will vote Swayde next. But somehow I don't think that'll be necessary.

Here are some posts I found w/you mentioning Beth or answering her. IMO the comments were a bit too severe for distancing:

Beth had accused you of skimming and voted you then Swayde had come out w/her investigation:

Since you posted within the quote (making harder to respond to btw), others may have to go back to the post #599 for those who need to....

First...There ARE 3 more stalker not 2 so me questioning that post was very obvious.
Ice never came off me, he may of made some thoughts because he knows what I was saying could be true and I took it as he was waiting for a reaction..which it turns out he was funny though you took it as he was going to come off me...as far as RB well, maybe he is not so sold on Swayde is a Known Innocent either..as I said (and she did) Anyone can say anything in the game.
Again, I may of givin up some because I knew nothing I would say would convience anyone, as I said Yes...I could of come out and said anything even the fact that I got the investigation and found an innocent...but no one would believe me and pretty much everyone had votes on me at the time, I have played enough to know that once they are there..it is very slim they are going to move especially once the town "feels" they have a known innocent...guess what OTHER players know that too and just MAY be playing on that, did that thought ever cross your mind???? Once I found out I was not gone...yep I decided to try and come on and defend myself..in the end I'm sure it will do nothing so rest assured you have nothing to FEAR, the plan seems to be going well for you.
As far as your "teams" of stalkers, I still don't see it if there are more then one team or a lone stalker it is always posted in the begining of the game. I think this is a way to confuse ppl even more.
As far as the effects of the shpere not being desireable...well obviously they wouldn't want it to kill the holder of it, and yes I see the others as not being AS helpful, but they would of been able to take 2 out in one night AND casue at least some confusion IMO, really they were down 1 and most likely going to loose 2 more I see no reason for them not to at least give it a shot, except it did do one of the 2 least desirable at the time...I'm sure the prospect of getting 2 in one night would of been enough reason for them to at least give it a shot.
For my "threat" no again it was not, I didn't say anything about "doom" but letting people know you can't believe everything ppl say, sometimes you follow the wrong person.
Then you go to tell me how YOU would of done it...well sorry we have different playing styles and as I said, it would of done NOTHING for me either way, as far as saying "wait till I get back" I WASN"T GOING TO BE BACK, I was going to work. Yep, I know once votes are piled up they are hard to get off, THEY WERE PILED UP..I've already explained this.

LOL, back at ya...I am a stalker because I voted YOU, honestly yep..I was going to vote Swayde first, so many are sooooo sure she is innocent and you I do believe have slipped a few times in these post, at least saying things that don't really make since or trying VERY hard to make sure the votes stay on me, so Yeah...I picked you.

How could you say the Stalkers wouldn't be paranoid they are dropping like flies!!!

Again, YES I mentioned Beth...guess what so did others, when she voted me with the reason she voted me yep she went up big time...and wasn't it a little convienent how Swayde came out RIGHT AFTER THAT?!?
 
I will be back in a bit to post more, I have a meeting I have to go to...but I wanted to at least get this post out before I went.
 
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