Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

[johnlarson66]

The fact that Jensons also pushed Grace as pointed out by LG was also a factor.

You guys can think what you want, all of you jump on me instead since we have numbers I'll be more then glad to be an innocent sacrifice.

I just wanted to bring this post forward.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

So I can assume you have Hooked Newbie leaning innocent. I have him more and more moving that way, but find it odd he is not a suspect of yours. While I am not ready to trust him, It does bother me that he is not on your suspect list.

I have Cory leaning innocent, mostly because of Lady G's list and his voting record. I think following Swayde and listening to her points is a good plan, I think she can be trusted.

I have Beth leaning innocent, mostly again because of Lady G's list.

I also have Jpap leaning innocent, I have thought of him to be helpful and seems to be looking for stalkers.

I am highly concerned about Ogre and his lack of posting and providing suspects. I hope he joins into the discussion, but I think he will be a hit and run vote. Ogre's lack of particapation has him moving up my list.

BKW has had some good input, if Ice is a stalker, then I think he will be cleared. If not, then he will be a suspect.

Rb, well Rb has disgruntle mod syndrom, but besides that has had some input, not as much as he has in the past, but Rb as a player is different as Rb the Mod. Like BKW, if Ice is a stalker, then I think he will be cleared. If not, then he will be a suspect.

Ice, thanks for your input. I think you have stated before a willingness to die for the town. I think at this point there really is not a choice, unless some new information comes out.

I am also thinking about "Drunken Posts" in the past. They always seem to be made by scum. Two from other games come to mind, does anyone else have thoughts about "Drunken Posts"?

The fact that Ice has never questioned me even on day one is the part that kinda clinches it for me. I doubt my vote will change unless something REALLY strange comes out.

I post drunk all the time... :grinyes: it's my sober posts that get me into trouble because I overthink them and end up looking scummy.

My suspect "pool" as of now... Ice, JM, Ogre. There are alot of if / thens though.

 

[johnlarson66]

The fact that Ice has never questioned me even on day one is the part that kinda clinches it for me. I doubt my vote will change unless something REALLY strange comes out.

I post drunk all the time... :grinyes: it's my sober posts that get me into trouble because I overthink them and end up looking scummy.

My suspect "pool" as of now... Ice, JM, Ogre. There are alot of if / thens though.

I agree with you about the fact that Ice has not questioned you. You had mentioned before about some posts that he could have jumped on and didn't. He also gave Rb a hard time, but not you, about his post last night. You were harsher than Rb.

I really have to get off of the computer, but the next time I have time, I am going to go back to that first day when Ogre said there were only 4 stalkers and who stood up for him. Until we were told different, there was no good reason to believe him, but some where giving him the benefit of the doubt. I am curious of where Lady G was on that.

 

[Swayde]

So I can assume you have Hooked Newbie leaning innocent. I have him more and more moving that way, but find it odd he is not a suspect of yours. While I am not ready to trust him, It does bother me that he is not on your suspect list.

I have Cory leaning innocent, mostly because of Lady G's list and his voting record. I think following Swayde and listening to her points is a good plan, I think she can be trusted.

I have Beth leaning innocent, mostly again because of Lady G's list.

I also have Jpap leaning innocent, I have thought of him to be helpful and seems to be looking for stalkers.

I am highly concerned about Ogre and his lack of posting and providing suspects. I hope he joins into the discussion, but I think he will be a hit and run vote. Ogre's lack of particapation has him moving up my list.

BKW has had some good input, if Ice is a stalker, then I think he will be cleared. If not, then he will be a suspect.

Rb, well Rb has disgruntle mod syndrom, but besides that has had some input, not as much as he has in the past, but Rb as a player is different as Rb the Mod. Like BKW, if Ice is a stalker, then I think he will be cleared. If not, then he will be a suspect.

Ice, thanks for your input. I think you have stated before a willingness to die for the town. I think at this point there really is not a choice, unless some new information comes out.

I am also thinking about "Drunken Posts" in the past. They always seem to be made by scum. Two from other games come to mind, does anyone else have thoughts about "Drunken Posts"?

This post mirrors my own thoughts very closely. I am more inclined to believe that JL is not a stalker because of this. I hope that's not a mistake =)

If Ice shows up as an innocent, JM is next for my vote.
If Ice shows up as a stalker I am not real sure who to go after next. I definitely agree that Ogre is looking very suspicious.

I really would like to hear more thoughts from Cory, Beth, Jpap...I don't think they are stalkers, and would welcome any input they can offer.

RB - I am still torn, but I really don't think he's a stalker
BKW - Still could see him going either way
HN - more innocent vibe than stalker vibe, still concerned he's been so tame (much as I worry about Ice being so tame)

I think that is everyone still in the game. I don't think I'll have much time to be active today, but I'll try to read when I can and comment if I feel it's necessary.

 

[Rbishop]

I really wish Ogre had taken the time to comment when he was on line last night a couple of hours after nightfall...

 

[jpappy789]

Thoughts...

Ice is skating on thin ice right now.

If he is innocent I would then look at Jmax, Rb, or Bkw (most likely in that order). Jmax has had numerous scummy posts. Rb had a little "fit" over the tech devices. And Ice and Bkw have been going at it since the beginning.

Hn has had some odd moments this game but I havent seen this before from him so not exactly sure what to make of it.

Jl seems to be contributing quite a lot. Cory seems innocent to me though not the best help thi game...

Ogre lack of participation lately has bothered me. He got "cleared up" so early in the game that he has been besically floating through.

Beth is almost a known innocent to me because of the Lady G vote before Swayde came out. I dont see Beth doing something that aggressive as a stalker, especially after how she got cuaght up the last game she was scum.

Swayde is 99.9% innocent.

I vote to toss Ice into the Zone

 

[Cory Lover]

I'm a bit busy right now to go really search but JM just really stands out to me. Her vote on HN which she says was in jest and to keep her from UDing but if you look back you see she really kind of dug into him with her reason why she was voting him. If it was more a jest or to keep alive vote I don't see why she would use a reason like that to give her vote.

Cory just isn't really helping much IMO. Pretty much staying low and following the crowd. His reason for voting me is because Sway is innocent and suspects me. I don't really find that as a good reason unless you are just trying to stay out of sight.

I don't think enough people have been around to do a 24 hour day so I'm going to assume a 48 hour day which will give me more time to really look and try to pair up players.

Ogres going quiet after the save has me concerned also.As does Beths quietness though it was explained and Bkw knowing that Sway and Plantling are known innocents.
RBs anger at the stalker hit not happening concerns me a bit also but I'd have to really look at his other posts knowing the things we know now.


If I had to list them in order right now I'd go

JM
Cory
Ogre
Bkw
Beth
RB
Jpap

Ummm...no..thats not the only reason I'm voting for you. Look back. Main reason was your post.

Now...for the 100th time...thats how I play!! :angryfire: I stay low, and I only share my thoughts when I feel there is something important needed to be said. I help the town in voting for the bad guys...so far I have a good record in voting for stalkers.



I will try to post some thoughts on each player later if I have time.



Matt

 

[IceH2O]

So I can assume you have Hooked Newbie leaning innocent. I have him more and more moving that way, but find it odd he is not a suspect of yours. While I am not ready to trust him, It does bother me that he is not on your suspect list.

I have Cory leaning innocent, mostly because of Lady G's list and his voting record. I think following Swayde and listening to her points is a good plan, I think she can be trusted.

I have Beth leaning innocent, mostly again because of Lady G's list.

I also have Jpap leaning innocent, I have thought of him to be helpful and seems to be looking for stalkers.

I am highly concerned about Ogre and his lack of posting and providing suspects. I hope he joins into the discussion, but I think he will be a hit and run vote. Ogre's lack of particapation has him moving up my list.

BKW has had some good input, if Ice is a stalker, then I think he will be cleared. If not, then he will be a suspect.

Rb, well Rb has disgruntle mod syndrom, but besides that has had some input, not as much as he has in the past, but Rb as a player is different as Rb the Mod. Like BKW, if Ice is a stalker, then I think he will be cleared. If not, then he will be a suspect.

Ice, thanks for your input. I think you have stated before a willingness to die for the town. I think at this point there really is not a choice, unless some new information comes out.

I am also thinking about "Drunken Posts" in the past. They always seem to be made by scum. Two from other games come to mind, does anyone else have thoughts about "Drunken Posts"?

If I was a stalker and HN wasn't I'd be more inclined to chase after him. I don't chase people I think might be innocent when I'm innocent because we need their input.

As for Cory and Beth being innocent, the fact that LG lowered them way down but still kept them on the list is another reason I think they need watching. Beth being the 1st on LG before Sway comes out would prevent her from moving off if it was a distancing tactic and Beth joined on Cory not Grace the 1st day. So its either or for me on them though now that I've looked over the voting I'd probably move Beth to 2nd behind JM. The fact that LG thought to vote for Beth on the way out could also be a distancing tactic.

I agree that Jpap is most likely innocent and why he is near the bottom of my list. Same with RB.

My revised list after having some time to look over would be

JM
Beth
Ogre
Bkw
RB

I just wanted to bring this post forward.

Still willing and why I'm not fighting it. Only real reason to give my ideas on who is what is so you can look back after my death.

 

[IceH2O]

Ummm...no..thats not the only reason I'm voting for you. Look back. Main reason was your post.

Now...for the 100th time...thats how I play!! :angryfire: I stay low, and I only share my thoughts when I feel there is something important needed to be said. I help the town in voting for the bad guys...so far I have a good record in voting for stalkers.



I will try to post some thoughts on each player later if I have time.



Matt

You'll see after my death that I was telling the truth and that the post was written after downing quickly a pint of Wild Turkey 101.

But like I said with so little info out there I blame no one, but myself, for jumping on it and voting for me.

 

[IceH2O]

One thing I am loving is how the other 5 people that were on Jensons before Sway came out against LG are questioning me for being on her. Obviously she made herself look scummy otherwise you guys wouldn't have voted her.

A couple of you think that Beth being on LG before Sway came out makes her an innocent. At the time of Beths vote 6 of us were on Jensons and it looked like a runaway train was going to form there. What better place to be for Beth but on a team mate so when Jenson came back innocent she could say she wasn't there. When Sway came out Beth had no option of jumping off and wouldn't anyway with the proof being so obvious or it would look bad.

Here is the sequence leading up to Beths vote for LG

Thats Okay Swayde, I am here now.
jensons-I see the case for you being a Stalker, the early innocent banner waving really bothers me, I did it in my second game and i was mafia then.

Cory-you could still be a stalker, but right now you haven't do anything to scream stalker. you are one to watch

RB-leaning innocent atm

Jpap-nothing screams mafia leaning innocent,

Ice-I am so tired of not being able to figure you out,

HN- Your "typo" still bothers me. You have played to many of these games to make such an obvious mistake. You are leaning stalker

Lady G- you are a good player, you also blend in sometimes too. You could be stalker, you have my eye atm

Swayde-you are leaning innocent atm, I have no idea how to read you, but so far you have been a great help to our town.

Coler-no idea if your even still here

Enya-I don't know

Ogre-I gave you the benefit of the doubt about your "incident" but I know how you play, you are leaning stalker

Beth-I know me

Bk-you are undecided for me.

These are all the thoughts I have for now, I only found out I was still alive an hour ago. So forgive me if I have forgotten anyone, and this is in no order, and will change.

Kay I hate to ask this of you Lady G, but were you skimming? I gave an explanation in post #401, as to why I would ask If I was still alive. Which in fact came after I asked the question, so why would you ask that?

I vote to toss Lady G into the zone
subject to change

So basically because LG "skimmed" she got Beths vote,when on the list she was only one to watch and others stood out more.