Mafia #29 Biological Badlands #2

[OgreMkV]

Yeah, OK, I was at work and forgot that Z was gone. I remembered that JMax had gone...

I stupid. Sue me.

 

[johnlarson66]

Yeah, OK, I was at work and forgot that Z was gone. I remembered that JMax had gone...

I stupid. Sue me.

Coler is viewing, I think he can help with sueing you.

 

[jpappy789]

Hey Pappy. Quote my post, I said LEANING EVIL. In other words, people I'm willing to vote for at this point. Everyone's a POSSIBLE evil to me at this point. Except LG, JM, Z...

Interesting that the four you list are those that have questioned you or stated they had concerns about you.

Okay Hn, no need to get so picky about wording. I obviously understand that EVERYONE is a possible evil but no one lists everyone as evil on their lists. My point is that I am surpirsed that you havent done much digging as you normally do and only have come up with two people to even list as a possible evil (in the sense that they are more possible than others in your opinion). I thought you would have at least come up with a couple more people to have leaning evil....why do you feel the need to get so worked up about it?

And if looked back you would see that I listed Ice and Grins much earlier than now. I put Grins on my list before she ever questioned me and Ice and I had only exchanged a few posts before that list. None of his responses make me feel like he was at all "concerned" about me...

 

[jpappy789]

So, "The people that most want to look innocent are the evil ones." and then you say "Hooked and you John are looking real innocent", then most likely we are evil!

I am not sure if I like Ogre thinking I am innocent. (insert morse code here).

Ogre is sure confusing me...first Zs is innocent (but dead) then he says John and Hooked are innocent (but he previously listed Hn as "highly suspect evil" and JL as "lightly suspect evil")???

I feel left out...Ogre forgot about me...

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Okay Hn, no need to get so picky about wording. I obviously understand that EVERYONE is a possible evil but no one lists everyone as evil on their lists. My point is that I am surpirsed that you havent done much digging as you normally do and only have come up with two people to even list as a possible evil (in the sense that they are more possible than others in your opinion). I thought you would have at least come up with a couple more people to have leaning evil....why do you feel the need to get so worked up about it?

And if looked back you would see that I listed Ice and Grins much earlier than now. I put Grins on my list before she ever questioned me and Ice and I had only exchanged a few posts before that list. None of his responses make me feel like he was at all "concerned" about me...

I wasn't and am not "worked up", I was clarifying for you since you apparently misinterpreted. Think of it this way 1-10 (Evil - Innocent).

"Leaning Evil" = 2-4
"Neutral" = 4-7
"Leaning Innocent" = 7-9

Known Innocent = 10, Known Evil = 1

I'm not a big fan of the outright numbered lists, at least producing them because people seem to range throughout the day to me. There is "overlap". That may not make sense to you, but it does to me. If I were to assign numbers to you and Cat, You'd have the lower number.

 

[Cory Lover]

My suspects:

Ice- I have stated earlier why I suspect him. Basically he made the morse code thing sound like a "plan to root out evils" which is a bunch of crap IMO. Then as soon as plantling mentions something about me possibley having lingering genetic effects he tries to go with that. Also, goes with the insinuation that the "satisfied evils" were those on Jmax. What mafia wouldnt be satisfied at this point?

Grins- Her "fascination" (not the best word, I know) with the clues sort of makes me wonder but at the same time I understand that my stubborness to look at the clues doesnt make me look good either. Some of her responses to questions last night did not sit with me well so only slightly leaning evil.

Hn- Not sure why but I dont see the usual Hn this game. I was surprised when he only came up with two players as possible evils...everyone else is neutral.

Cory- CL has me very concerned. He has been instigating a lot and then when things heat up he backs off into the crowd while the back-abd-forth still goes on between others. Another thing that has caught my attention is his suspects. His first "concerns" were Ogre, Zig, and Catfish. Ogre was a large suspect early yesterday because of his responses to the morse code. Zigman was being nailed last night because of his posts. And catfish was also just starting to be questioned over her reasoning for the Ogre vote. Now more recently Ogre has somehow dropped off the list while Zig and catfish remain, which are popular on many lists. Is it just me or does Cory seem to be following the crowd?

jpappy, please refer to other games I have played before. I do sometimes follow the crowd on the first couple nights (I've got called a 'coat tail rider'), I admit that. After the second or third night I stop following the crowd, since then I start actually having my own real strong thoughts about a player or two and go at them. Like I've said in previous, if you don't like the way I play, tough ****. Though in this case I am not following the crowd, I'm actually stating how I feel. Zig and catfish are my top suspects currently, and they have become that not because other people view them as top suspects.


I don't know how I really back off. I do have restricted internet times (set by parents) so I can't just stay on for two hours going back and forth with someone.

 

[Cory Lover]

Okay Hn, no need to get so picky about wording. I obviously understand that EVERYONE is a possible evil but no one lists everyone as evil on their lists. My point is that I am surpirsed that you havent done much digging as you normally do and only have come up with two people to even list as a possible evil (in the sense that they are more possible than others in your opinion). I thought you would have at least come up with a couple more people to have leaning evil....why do you feel the need to get so worked up about it?

And if looked back you would see that I listed Ice and Grins much earlier than now. I put Grins on my list before she ever questioned me and Ice and I had only exchanged a few posts before that list. None of his responses make me feel like he was at all "concerned" about me...

I actually agree, that is why HN is one of the ones I'm watching closely. If I remember correctly, in games when HN has been evil, he doesn't do much digging, nor as much posting.

 

[jpappy789]

Here is Ogre's post with his list -



Not plantling?

If there are 5 be sure to include Cory Lover.

If the three or four of us (or even five) are all evil, then we are the stupidest group of evil yet. Why not just morse code each other in PM or in our own chat?

My guess is at least one of us is evil, maybe two, and that is a big maybe.

Popular vote means having one more vote than everyone else???

Here was the vote tally as of your vote:

0-Cory:JL(4)
0-Jpappy:JL(8)
1-LG:Ice(12) JL(122)
1-Plant: Ogre(20)
2-Grins: Jpappy(74) JM(173)
1-JL: LG(81)
3-Ogre: HN(123) Ice(144) Catfish(176)
1-HN: Zigman(163)
1-Zigman: Zsand(172)

Before you voted Ogre and Grins each had 2 votes. Then you decided that you would vote for the "popular vote" with no added input. I understand you are new and going after newbies on Day 1 always gets me accused but this seems very shady my genetically enhanced friend. Are you protecting Grins? Things to ponder.

Zig, could you explain why evils would want to post in this thread in morse code about their evil doings, with the chance of someone deciding to translate it, when they could make their own sites to communicate or talk in PM? It doesn't make sense, and they would have to be awfully dumb to do so.




Ogre and Zig both have me worried. Catfish has me worried too. Why vote for someone just because they have the 'popular' vote? Shouldn't you vote for who you feel is the bad guy, and not just who has the popular vote? It would be great if you could give some reasons for voting for Ogre. You could very well be a bad guy and your 'friends' have asked you to vote from someone with some votes already (hoping that you will
blend in) and leave, hoping it wouldn't give much attention to you and people would just say "Oh, he is a newbie".

Match the corresponding colors...dont they seem awfully similar to you?

 

[jpappy789]

Sorry, this was supposed to be at the beginning of that post

jpappy, please refer to other games I have played before. I do sometimes follow the crowd on the first couple nights (I've got called a 'coat tail rider'), I admit that. After the second or third night I stop following the crowd, since then I start actually having my own real strong thoughts about a player or two and go at them. Like I've said in previous, if you don't like the way I play, tough ****. Though in this case I am not following the crowd, I'm actually stating how I feel. Zig and catfish are my top suspects currently, and they have become that not because other people view them as top suspects.


I don't know how I really back off. I do have restricted internet times (set by parents) so I can't just stay on for two hours going back and forth with someone.

Sorry CL but I dont find that first part as an excuse.

And with you "actually stating how you feel":

 

[Hooked Newbie]

I actually agree, that is why HN is one of the ones I'm watching closely. If I remember correctly, in games when HN has been evil, he doesn't do much digging, nor as much posting.

Before you hitch to that wagon, you may want to review. I have more posts than you OR Jpappy and have questioned a bunch of people. Those who responded in a way I thought innocent, I dropped. Yea, yea, I know you have limited online time. We all do. Those of us not in school have other obligations. Like for instance my 60+ hr week job, 15 tanks, and numerous community obligations. I don't lean on the excuses though. I was wrong about JM, my bad, but she looked evil. Who have you questioned? (Question to you & Jpap) Just to avoid any confusion on who's answering the questions.