Mafia #29 Biological Badlands #2

[Grins]

Are you kidding? Have you not learned anything all those times you were evil. Evil do start trains.Especially in the beginning of the game when you can get away with an oops they looked evil.

Well first of all let me remind you that while I am far from certain I've said a few times you're looking more innocent to me.

Secondly "they herd the cattle, but they don't lead the stampede", meaning yes they start a train (herd the cattle) but once they get someone else to buy into what they are saying they let them take the lead on going after them (they don't lead the stampede)

So psst, I have learned a thing or two from being mafia in the past oh IceyYoda

 

[Grins]

You will look silly if I am gone tonight

Yes I will. Hey by the way...no answers to the specific issues with why you look guilty other than the one?

 

[catfish69hunter]

Tell you what, if you make it through the night I'll pull quotes, will that make you feel better about why I have you in the suspect list?

so what are you trying to say here is he gonna get the hit tonite cause thats what im reading here???

 

[IceH2O]

so what are you trying to say here is he gonna get the hit tonite cause thats what im reading here???

Cat you crack me up. Look at the votes. Its tied between Jpap and Zig. One of them is going home the other isn't. If Jpap isn't the one lynched then I'd make a case for him to make him happy but if you look above Grins has already pulled a lot of them though I could find more if needed.

 

[Rbishop]

30 minutes...

 

[jpappy789]

Hmmm...you mentioned me three times...

See now screw this Zig was setup crap. Whats to stop the evils from making it look like a setup so they can claim setup and clear Zig for a while? It gives them a chance to throw more suspicion on innocents instead of helping us link the evil team together. I still feel he is the leader and acted on his own though.





What are you reading? When did I say the evils were testing Zig? Maybe you need to stop skimming and really read the posts before you try to make a case.

You know I've been replying as I've been reading and HN makes a good point about something I forgot about, so I went back and read that section of thread again.
Jpaps post on Zig out of nowhere, why did he feel the need to explain why he wasn't voting him? No one asked, he says he didn't want to get questioned on it. Well lots of people haven't commented on other people. Jpaps posts have me leaning him heavily evil and helping to make me look less at Zig.
If one is innocent the other is evil.

I retract my vote on Zigman

I'll have to think a bit more on who I want to vote for though Jpap is really sticking out and the clue isn't helping him.

JL is making me a bit nervous with his posts and also the clue could be pointing to him also.

I don't really see Cory doing anything he hasn't done in past games, doesn't clear him though.

Zig still has my eye. Not entirely convinced innocent but the fact that others I don't trust seem to be pushing his innocence has me wondering.

Screw it, everyone is evil.Even the person I thought was innocent now looks evil.



I agree with HN on another post. I don't post to look innocent. I post to out evil. If by looking evil they use that to their advantage then they are found out. If by chance the innocents take me out then hopefully they can gather info from my death.

I'll make my vote later after looking through with a clear mind.

So are you saying that we are on opposite teams?

I had decided at that time to vote Zig thinking that the evils piled onto JM to save him. Of the people on JM I wasn't sure who were the evils and who of the group was innocent. It couldn't be all evils on JM.

Of the ones on JM I suspect you and Jpap the most followed by HN, then Grins. T

HN jumping off Zig onto JM to force the tie looks a bit suspect to me but if they are both innocents then it wasn't going to hurt him in either direction. There just seemed to be more evidence of Zig being evil then JM and I thought a 1st day vote and run wasn't a strong enough reason to vote JM. I didn't see HNs switch but since Ogre wasn't getting any votes and Zig was my 2nd suspect I was voting for him either way.

Grins doesn't seem as scummy after reading her posts today. I don't think she'd be the kill vote on an innocent when she could have just sat on me and let Zig vote for JM to save himself.

The fact that Zig didn't vote JM to save himself puzzles me too unless it was because he already saw that JM had the lead and he didn't need to be the nail in the coffin.

Actually writing out that thought has made me lean Zig back towards being evil.

You dont specifically address me here. Just put me on the list

I'm not sure why this comment came with this quote as they have nothing really in common. But I'll answer anyway. Cat follows the flow. He makes a case then when confronted with an answer retracts it. It is sort of bush kicking, evils don't need to flow. Actually they prefer not to flow as to not have their names attached with to many people.

I already explained why Zig could have acted on his own. I have acted many times on my own or was given the benefit of sending in whoever I wanted to hit. It was late in the day and maybe no one was around and Zig got nervous that Zsand was on his trail. He doesn't know not to hit Zsand, so to get rid of him he does then the other evils go into damage control. I didn't really like Zigs over reaction to Zsand being hit during the night fall posts either.



So where does he sit now? You just pulled an Ogre.Your list has him at innocent but you brought forward a post in which you thought he was evil after you thought he was innocent. When did he switch back to innocent?

Even if he is Harpo, its a weak PR and is pretty meaningless to come out. If Harpo is killed the vials go to someone else,its not like they disappear from the game.

For now I vote to genetically test Zigman

I want to make sure I have a vote in and he doesn't seem to be in danger.I also want to see what transpires today.

Zig do me a favor and list of who you have voted for,including any retractions, and your suspect list. That way I don't have to search later after work as I might not have much time. If you're an innocent you shouldn't mind helping me out here.

Wait, but if Zig is evil wouldnt I be innocent? Or am I not getting this?

Just posting a thought.

I actually have you pretty low on the suspect list along with Grins. Plant hasn't tiffed me in either direction so I didn't feel the need to include her at all. Jpap and JL are the ones that really stand out the most along with Zig. I feel that if Zig is evil then it cinches that Ogre is also.

Another mention, nothing at all in depth.

 

[jpappy789]

And no need to pull quotes Ice.

 

[catfish69hunter]

Cat you crack me up. Look at the votes. Its tied between Jpap and Zig. One of them is going home the other isn't. If Jpap isn't the one lynched then I'd make a case for him to make him happy but if you look above Grins has already pulled a lot of them though I could find more if needed.

yea he may not get the vote but it would be very easy just to take him out after with the hit the evils get right isnt that what happened to ZS?? right??

 

[jpappy789]

Well I need to get some dinner.

Maybe I should say something before I go, if the flip ends up going my way...

When I show up innocent please look closely at Ice, Grins, Hn, and Cory.

 

[IceH2O]

Well first of all let me remind you that while I am far from certain I've said a few times you're looking more innocent to me.

Secondly "they herd the cattle, but they don't lead the stampede", meaning yes they start a train (herd the cattle) but once they get someone else to buy into what they are saying they let them take the lead on going after them (they don't lead the stampede)

So psst, I have learned a thing or two from being mafia in the past oh IceyYoda

I'll have to go back and look but I don't really remember JL pushing for the JM train. He just placed his vote and let the others fall in line behind him. I believe Ogre and you were the leading vote getters at the time.

Which really messes with me. If JL is evil why bother with a 3rd player if he had 2 innocents on the block he could get, unless he didn't think others would follow onto JM and was placing a safe bet.Or one of you is evil ,Ogre or Grins, and he saw JM as an easy target to save his team mate instead of voting for the innocent tied with the evil and drawing attention to himself. Or JL is innocent and none of this matters.