Mafia 30: Witness Protection - The Play

[[AC] maelstrom]

after c-notes little speech i'm a bit more worried about them to the point that wing might be an innocent.they get real contridictitory in their last post.

Wing also brings up a good point about neither being on Tib but they were both on driver the night she died so i don't know.

its on you guys that are on wings. i'm sticking to the plan,if you would rather switch to another player that still works. i will send in my investigation when i get home and by then i should see who the votes are on,wings or c-note/hi iq.


c-note, you never gave a list of 3 you would want to look into for an investigation tonight. would you like me to investigate Mael and Narwhal?

also c-note does tell one truth.if its only the Don left they have no worries from me as i can't see them. we know 2 mafia were lynched and we're hoping 1 mafia was hit by accident.i'm only a threat if the big city goon is still out there.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

My top three list would be, most suspicious to least (beyond WN)

Tree
Cnote
Doom/HH

The last two, I'm really the least worried about. The only reason I include them is because Doom's posts seem a little funny and HH's are a little fishy too (no pun intended). I couldn't think of a close third.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

im trying hh. im not 100% sure of anyone and will be taking a different route to school tomorrow cuz im fricken paranoid at this point. you said she for wing nut... i thought it was a he. do you know or suspect different? i know they cant confirm it but im curious about your thoughts. i didnt even thinkk of the detective being hit and us not knowing... thats not going to help my paarnoia.

haggis, i didnt say you were mafia. i said i was still curious about you. i voted for mael too. you dont post much and only seem to after your name is mentioned. im just trying to figure it out.

Yes, I thought wing nut was as she as the person I thought they were also posted about having two jobs in past games. Gunslinger and I briefly discussed who some players could be (including you :lipssealedsmilie but I didn't consult with him and his syntax thingie about Wingnut. And if they are not a she as they claim not to be then I'm not sure who they could be.

out of everyone the only ones that i don't fully trust are

Hi
Wings
C-note
UhOh

I know Uhoh came back a townie but we know that means nothing in this game.

these are their votes

Hi- Wing Driver Mael

wings- c-note Hi Nobody

C-note- oldtoes driver wing

UhOh- narwhal nobody tib

out of the 4 I would put them in this order of most to least likely.

wings
Hi Iq
c-note
uhoh

I like that list except that both Driver and Tib were after UhOh a bit, so unless it was distancing from their Don, which I just don't see, I would leave UhOh off.

if everyone gives there top 3 suspects for mafia not counting wings i will choose from those 3 my next investigation. obviously i already have seen uh oh so hi and c-note would be my choices.but i will take into account others thoughts before i send it in.

In order from most liklely my top choices for the BCG are (assuming you aren't the Don or BCG, lol):
HI IQ
Narwhal
C-Note

For the Don, I still like Doomsday followed by C-Note. Driver quarreled with Doomsday only after a lot of people were suspicious of Driver already. And Dooms seemed to defend Tibs when Rickets made that post about Tibs. Dooms vote on Tibs was late. Doomsday also was't present at nightfall and her last post was more of like she was just going along with the flow and no input. C-Note I am always leary of and Driver fought with him the least. But if one of these are the Don then they have nothing to fear from you.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

Here's why I think HI IQ may be the BCG:

Well, this is the one that made me go "hmmm" to begin with. IME, mafia jump on small things and try to get others to go with them. The fact that, they posted just to let us know they are here is really nothing IMO to be called out for....it happens alot on day one and first posts.


Then you come in and "play the noob card", maybe you are new...I don't know...but if you have "read" and "watched" the game enough to know, this is suspicous then wouldn't you also know that this "noob card" would also seem suspicous?

Driver started a quarrel w/him...

sorry, missed this the first time i read thru the posts. please show me where i "played the noob card" or said that i am new. i've played before, but not as much as most people and not for awhile.

right now, i'm going back and forth on wether to vote nemesis or wing nut. now i have to add you to my possible list for making things up.

He tentatively added her to his list...

Ok, IQ...I do not think your SN quite fits you.....


Why would I say you "played the noob card"...well lets see what you said to make me say this.....

Hmmm, it looks to me like you were saying you haven't played the game before but you have read it...to me this looks like a noob, is that not what you were saying? If you were not saying that can you please explain that last paragraph?

Well, I guess that is my answer then.

Driver continued to go after IQ even insulting his IQ...

driver- gee thanks. lol I did intepret what 3toes asked wrong. i didnt deliberately try to misquote anything. That last paragraph was just saying that i wanted to read more. i have played before but not in awhile and it seems as though people are more "in your face" now. i need to get a better feel of how people are playing now before i get railroaded.

eg. below.

nemesis- feel free to keep harping on that. i think your doing it to keep people from looking at you. im still up in the air on who to vote for even though i want to vote for you out of spite i think there are others who deserve my vote maybe more.

He just said "gee thanks" and went on to explain himself...

^ look i remembered to quote what i was replying to instead of raising my post count for no reason like someone else has been doing.

nemesis, driver, or wing nut?

hmmmm....

Now he's got driver sandwiched between nemesis and wingnut...

not by a long shot!

i just am finding wing nuts one post and looking like they dont even want to help more guilty. i can't quite follow drivers posts. everytime i think shes guilty, the next post makes me think otherwise.

i vote to lynch wing nut.

if it werent him, itd be you.

but he voted Wingnut. And the vote stayed and I believe was a lone vote on Wingnut.

HI IQ did vote Driver on day 2 but I believe it was the 5th vote and he voted Mael the 3rd day after I stated that if I switched my vote from Tib to anybody it would probably be to Mael.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

Well, to be fair, here's why I think narwhal might be the BCG though I agree the case is not so strong:

'K. The new logging on thing threw me, as I didn't see it until I had used up all my tries. It's only 8pm here, so I don't think that I'm really late in posting, or not following, or laying low. Busy day.

1) Being the first to post is neat, not mafia.

Driver8:

2) Meanie! :silly: Wasn't much to post about last night, so I didn't post.

3) Who the heck cares who is who? Roles weren't assigned based on previous play, right? Be done with it.

4) Maelstrom's avatar gets me everytime! I keep trying to wipe at my screen.



5) I don't see anything there, but am concerned that you won't tell us what you see. Tell us. If you're a townie, then, as I have been told countless times, the possible sacrifice (you) is worth the certainty (who was gunning for you).This is shady.

Originally Posted by [AC] Driver8
Well, wanted to get a couple thoughts out there before I'm off for a while today.

Oh, I didn't completly IGNORE the question addressed to me, you wanted to know if I WERE PROTECTING DOOMSDAY, I responded to that specificly with DO YOU THINK MAFIA WOULD PROTECT EACH OTHER.

No, I am not protecting this person not in anyway, just questioning your reason for a vote....I got a response which is what I wanted. What better way to figure people out and get them talking then to question them right? I said I had suspicoun on you I questioned you I got a response...that is what I was looking for. Thank you.

6) I don't know why, but this post struck me wrong. I thought, on the first read, that it was a noob mafia admitting to purposefully not protecting fellow mafia. Rereading it, I understand what was posted, but the thought seemed to have merit, because t crossed my mind, and so there might have been a subconscious reason for it.

7) I don't like the tone of TreeHugger's posts. Or of CNotes, but this could be an OMGUS feeling creeping in.

8) lol. I think it's funny to see people trying to change up the posting style, using different vocab etc, but only sometimes.

9) Will read some more, look over things, and vote before I go to bed.

--narwhal--

2) Narwal responded to Driver about Narwal's low posts.

6) I'm not sure if I would have commented on Driver's post if I were the BCG, but perhaps the post struck Narwhal because she knew who Driver was (and possibly Dooms as well and couldn't believe that Driver would put "Protecting Doomsday" in bold? Might be a good cover for Norwhal if both of them were lynched and Mafia.

Great narration Mad, this is a really fun round!!! Thank you for all the work you are putting in!

What I’m thinking, as nightfall us occurring and I just logged on:

Someone asked if I was confident that old3toes was innocent, and I wasn’t. I looked back at the votes, and saw 3t on mael and mael on 3t. I chose to vote for no one because I was unhappy with my choice, and I didn’t want to stick with it. Being crunched for time, I wasn’t able to think and read enough to make a new vote. If I were mafia, why would I change a vote and make myself look suspicious? I wouldn’t.

And now, with 3toes being innocent, I look really shady. H-E-Double Hockey sticks, I would probably vote for me now.

My thoughts, for what they are worth:

BadHaggis – no real read, no thoughts
C-note – distancing from Driver8, maybe mafia
Doomsday998 – no good read
Driver8 – aggressive play, goes in circles, maybe mafia (see C-note above)
Gunslinger – short bursts of “you are all doing nothing helpful” (note, this is a
paraphrase, and not meant to be read as a direct quote of anything)
possible mafia
Hammerhead 991 – fixated on Driver8/maybe G saga, possible mafia
HI IQ – too scattered and random, I think, to be mafia – possible townie
maelstrom – maybe 3t was on to something, possible mafia
RICKETS – townie, I think
Tiburon321 – no read as of yet
Tree_Hugger – not feeling you yet – but possible townie
UhOhChongo – quick strikes of pointed, accusatory posting – this probably means
townie, as a mafia vet would be more careful
wing nut – maybe a middle of the road mafia poster?

xx_Nemesis_xx – killed by Mafia hit
Old3Toes – was the Vig, killed the Doc, that sucks
scoop411 – the dead Doc, double bummer
narwhal – townie

My vote, if it had to be cast now, would be for driver or c-note….

I’ll be back on much later tonight, and will update with any new thoughts.

Narwhal's thoughts about Driver and myself change a bit by the next list.

'K. Right now, I'm only going to respond to Driver, then go drink a bottle of wine.

1) I hate that you misread, and kept harping on parts of my post. I know that you recanted, but the thinking that I has voted no one twice really makes me want to omgus vote you, but it also tell sme that maybe you were trying to get people to think me scummy. If your mafia buddies pointed out how obviously flawed this was, that could account for your "I'm just paranoid" statement.

2) I just meant that uhoh is probably a townie. If the player was mafia, I don't think this posting style would be a logical choice.

3) Only said I was busy once. I post what I think, when it has anything to new to say.

4) I don't know where my vote will fall, but I'm uncomfortable with your posting.

~narwhal

Here narwhal simply let Driver know she was uncomfortable with Driver's posting though Driver had been blasting her a bit.

OK, Im really wanting to vote gunslinger, I just ahve a feeling, but this puts me in league with peeps who I'm not really comfy with (mael and tree). Does it seem off to anyone else that there votes for gun are posted so close together? Voting no one on day 2 shan't help a bit either..... Driver has gotten under my skin, but does that warrant a vote? Maybe. I am going to hold with my idea that 3toes was on to something, and take the chance that killing him was a mafia ploy to make mael look bad. I already had a bad feeling (see last long post) about mael....

I vote to lynch maelstrom.

Narwhal mentioned G again, but doesn't vote her.

Not switching. A switch to save someone would assume that I know who is innocent and who is mafia, as I don't, I'm not switching. I don't like Mael's posts, any more than they like mine. I’m thinking mafia.

For posterity:

I think Tree and Rickets are the communicating townies. This being said, I think Rickets is Mafia (per the rules, Tree wouldn’t know this) and is sneaking by as a townie.

BadHaggis – townie
C-note – townie
Doomsday998 – mafia?
Driver8 – townie
Gunslinger – mafia
Hammerhead 991 – townie
HI IQ – townie
maelstrom – mafia
RICKETS – mafia
Tiburon321 – townie
Tree_Hugger – townie
UhOhChongo – townie
wing nut – townie

xx_Nemesis_xx – killed by Mafia hit
Old3Toes – was the Vig, killed the Doc, that sucks
scoop411 – the dead Doc, double bummer
narwhal – townie


~Good night, and good luck!

Here Driver and I became townies on her list. And Narwhal said she didn't switch because she didn't know who was who, but I would think if she knew she was innocent and had the least doubts on Driver she would vote Driver.

 

[[AC] wing nut]

I also know i said c-note looks to be helpful.but their insistence that they think tree and me were being setup has me a bit nervous.

yes they voted driver but at the time it looked like it would be a runaway train on driver. they were the 4th vote on i wish i had the posts numbers of retractions so i could track the moves better but i don't and i have to leave soon so they'll have to wait till this evening. but its possible c-note saw the tide turning and moved there for distancing.

wing and gun as previously mentioned are suspects.

last suspect would be UhOh, came back as a townie but we know that means nothing with this darn rule.they weren't around for the day 2 vote and voted no one with a tight race, voted Narwhal night 1 no one night 2 and tib night 3,early on tib but his name had been thrown around a lot too.

if anyone has the time to look through their lists or who they have been on the most and compare it to the known innocents maybe we'd get a better read.

i wish i hadn't come out last night, but i really expected a last minute vote for myself and if i lost the tie breaker i didn't want what i knew to go with me.

we could vote a suspect mafia player and myself and keep it tied up. there are 11 players left so the vote will be 6-5, i will vote no one and 5 sit on me and 5 on wings. this way they can't waste a hit on me because i will let the coin flip decide my fate or save myself.it pretty much forces them to send in a hit on someone else or risk hitting me and me being lynched thus wasting a hit. if i do make it thru the night i have another investigation. or we keep it tied and the mayor,if still with us sends in a pardon for me so if the coin flip does kill me the pardon saves me.
if the mayor is still with us don't tip your hand, the more they are kept guessing the better. we need them to be worried that the hit will be wasted.

Is this the current plan?

I dont want to vote for Mael, because I feel he is innocent like me, so I hate to throw a wrench in the works, but I think we're better off sitting on C-note, than me..

 

[Madcrawdad]

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[[AC] wing nut]

I am going to get my vote in now, before I forget...

I vote to lynch C-note again...

 

[[AC] HI IQ]

did the plan change? whats the new one?1 should those of us on wing go to cnote?

hh- i dont mind suspicion and if it helps to narrow it down and win the game ill take the rope.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Vote count thru post 739

wing nut (5) - HI IQ 664, C-note 666, Tree_Hugger 669, UhOhChongo 693, narwhal 696
maelstrom (4) - Hammerhead 680, Gunslinger 686, BadHaggis 692, Doomsday 694
C-note (1) - wing nut 738
No Lynch (1) - maelstrom 682

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