Mafia 30: Witness Protection - The Play

[[AC] Gunslinger]

Driver...how do you make a sing-a-pore sling...?

 

[[AC] Gunslinger]

still working the late shift?

 

[[AC] Tree_Hugger]

Simple it brought things closer to a point where a tie could develop. I wondered if we would see any last minute shifts to save the lynch victim.

I don't believe we did. What does that tell us about where the mafia votes were...?

What does that tell us? What are your thoughts on it?

What are the odds of hammer and driver being on the same side or opposite sides...one befriending the other...?

I'd say it's 50/50 they are either on the same team, or they are not. What is your point?

Driver...how do you make a sing-a-pore sling...?

What does this have to do with the game?

still working the late shift?

Again, what does this have to do with the game?

 

[[AC] Gunslinger]

What does that tell us? What are your thoughts on it?



I'd say it's 50/50 they are either on the same team, or they are not. What is your point?



What does this have to do with the game?



Again, what does this have to do with the game?

From my standpoint..

1) It tells me c-note wasn't of concern to them

2) They are on opposite sides

3) Just a question that popped into my head

4) Everything, IMO.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Clarification...

A few have questioned why the role of xx_Nemesis_xx was not revealed upon their death, and why their death statement was black (vs. blue or red). A quick review of the Don/ACville Mafia Goon descriptions will provide the answer...

 

[[AC] HI IQ]

I am going to add a list of the players and add where I have them from 1-10 (1 being innocent-10 evil)
Old3toes-Known innocent/Vig
Scoop411-Known innocent/Doctor
Nemesis-unknown

BadHaggis-6, not a good feel from them, but they really haven't posted much to go on. Aside from voting me yesterday and today, and commenting they think the me and Hammer thing was set up, only questioned IQ and Nems really. Their view and opinions seem to be the same with no added thoughts as of yet.

C-note-7, Many of C's post bother me, I do get a scummy feel from them, although others stand out more to me.

Doomsday998-5, Really no feel either way on them..will have to wait and see more posts from them.

Gunslinger-7, hasn't posted much at all really and what they do post is very short...not adding much of their thoughts out there and it gives me a bad feeling from it, but as with C-note others stand out more to me.

Hammerhead 991-5, Ok, obviously my view has went back and forth like crazy with this person. I do get more of a innocent feel from their posts and think they are trying to help contrary to what you may think I feel.

HI IQ-8, They give me a scummy vibe more then most...the post they make seem to contradict themselves when questioned about what they have said.

maelstrom-8, They also give me a much higher scum feel then most others, most posts by them make me stop and do not sit well with me.

narwhal-6, Another I really can not get a feel from because they are not posting, now I do believe they are a busy person...but I do not like them stating it over and over instead of adding any real thoughts. Will wait for more posts from them, but at this time have them leaning more innocent.

RICKETS-5, yes, I can see where people are concerned about Rickets, but when reading their post I really do not get a mafia vibe..I do believe they are trying to post helpful and answer questions to them honestly.

Tiburon321-8, the more I look at their post the more I see mafia from them, I get very bad vibes from their post and have them very high up on my list right now.

Tree_Hugger-6, although they can be questioned about their day one vote...so can many others I do not get the mafia vibe from their posts either and have them leaning more innocent.

UhOhChongo-8, I am still not comfortable with Uh-Oh at all, I still feel like their posts have scum behind them.

wing nut-7, Not helping the town at all IMO, what they do post has nothing to it and I have them high up there also.

So I believe my vote is going to land on either Wing nut, Tib, Mael or Uh-Oh.

from you i think thats a compliment. if i look scummy to scum all you can do is hit me. to me all your doing is trying to put up a smoke screen now that the lady g smoke has blown away. the entire town looks scummy to you... geez, i wonder why? show me what ive contradicted. you havent once stated ive contradicted myself until you come up with this magic list. post numbers will be ok if you dont want to quote. i wont hold my breath though.

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

I apologize in advance for the long post and this is just till first nightfall.

Anyone notice that UhOhChongo posted in thread about bettas? Is there a connection between that and Lady G's "slip"?

I vote to lynch UhOhChongo

You claim later on that you made this vote just to get them to talk more but this was post 19.

Messing up seems to be a good reason to vote for someone. What are your reasons for voting to lynch someone? Votes can and will be changed, so what is wrong with voting for UhOh? Are they your Don? Are you their Don? Why defending them? Playing the confused card already. We are all equally confused, I think that is kinda the point this round. What does Ogre have to do with this? You think Ogre would post about Bettas with his mafia ID? Maybe in the marine forum, but not about a Betta. Maybe you are Ogre, maybe I am Ogre, it really does not matter. I still have no clue what Ogre has to do with any of this. Keep posting Old3Toes, there is much to learn about you.

Here even tho you later claim to just have voted to get some more talk from Uhoh you say its because they messed up.

Yeah.

In my experience people who start out talking about and explaining what the mafia usually do should be watched with extra gusto.

Of course, now I have been talking about or explaining somewhat what the mafia may be up to and by definition I must not watch myself, with extra gusto.

I offer you no reason why you shouldn't think I'm rude.

I can offer you no reason at this early stage of the game as to why you shouldn't think I'm mafia either. Except to say it is statistically unlikely if that is any comfort.

For your own sake, a thought process which leads to asking someone who you think is a rude mafia person 'give me a reason why you are not mafia or rude' is flawed.

No, I'm not.

Your choice of words is interesting. 'You were just advised'

Presumably you are referring to this

So do you need specific advice that deliberately misquoting someone (which would be impossible in a game like this anyway, there is after all a record, perhaps you meant misinterpreting) is evidence of someone being mafia ?

Is your post supposed to show everyone that you are just a poor simple newb who doesn't know anything except what other people tell them ?

Is someone telling you what to say ?

These by the way are rhetorical questions that I'm asking out loud. I don't expect that you will answer them in any unpredictable way.



No, I didn't.

looking back i thought nemesis had irked me,maybe it that the post could be taken as an innocent kicking bushes but looking back it was mostly directed at a couple of players one of which turned out to be innocent. certain things in these posts, ie statistically unlikely and pointing out what mafia could do is a mafia scum tell while speaking to old3toes bother me coupled with the unrelentless nitpicking on IQ

Oh bless.

So, does anyone else see at least a good case to be made of players who are communicating in the posts 101 to present.

come on guys. Too obvious.

players that were posting at this time

c-note
tree
rickets
badhaggis
hammer
doom
old3toes (innocent)
driver
uhoh
hi iq

not posting in that time frame

maelstrom
scoop (innocent)
gunslinger
narwhal
tiburon
wingnut
nemesis till that post.(most likely mafia)

Since i think nem was mafia and they were looking to get something started with that post that its a good chance most of the innocents are in group 1 and the mafia are in group 2. if nemesis was one then there are 3 out of the 7 in the bottom group that have a good chance of being mafia.

if i had to choose 3 from that group it would probably be gunslinger narwhal and not sure on the third.c-note bothers me even tho they are in first group and at this time would probably be my third choice.

I must say, that the post of Old3toes quoted by treehugger at post 212 above is the best justification to vote for toes that I have seen.

Here nemesis says that the post was worthy of the vote but he doesn't vote that way.
i know nemesis is dead and this looks like a waste of time but i think it cements to me he was the lone mafia. and that IQ is an innocent.

Let me catch up on todays posts and i will get a vote in at that time.

 

[[AC] narwhal]

'K. Right now, I'm only going to respond to Driver, then go drink a bottle of wine.

1) I hate that you misread, and kept harping on parts of my post. I know that you recanted, but the thinking that I has voted no one twice really makes me want to omgus vote you, but it also tell sme that maybe you were trying to get people to think me scummy. If your mafia buddies pointed out how obviously flawed this was, that could account for your "I'm just paranoid" statement.

2) I just meant that uhoh is probably a townie. If the player was mafia, I don't think this posting style would be a logical choice.

3) Only said I was busy once. I post what I think, when it has anything to new to say.

4) I don't know where my vote will fall, but I'm uncomfortable with your posting.

~narwhal

 

[[AC] C-note]

Don
You are the Don of the ACville Mafia. You have total control of the ACville Mafia, and may communicate with your ACville Goons outside of the thread. Before night falls in each day/night cycle, you will PM/email to me the name of the individual you would like to kill or ‘hit’. The role of your victim will only be revealed to the Mafia, and not to the town. Upon investigation by the detective, your role will show as ‘Townie’.

Here is the kicker, "The role of your victim will only be revealed to the Mafia, and not to the town."

So only the mafia knows what Nemesis was. Any assumptions on his role or not is just that, an assumption. If he was mafia, he was the lone mafia. The fact is that the mafia hit him, did it mean anything or was it just to confuse us. Again, all we can do is assume. Whatever he was, he is dead. While I hope he was the lone mafia, assuming that there is one less mafia is dangerous.

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

A few have questioned why the role of xx_Nemesis_xx was not revealed upon their death, and why their death statement was black (vs. blue or red). A quick review of the Don/ACville Mafia Goon descriptions will provide the answer...

looking back i thought nemesis had irked me,maybe it that the post could be taken as an innocent kicking bushes but looking back it was mostly directed at a couple of players one of which turned out to be innocent. certain things in these posts, ie statistically unlikely and pointing out what mafia could do is a mafia scum tell while speaking to old3toes bother me coupled with the unrelentless nitpicking on IQ

players that were posting at this time

c-note
tree
rickets
badhaggis
hammer
doom
old3toes (innocent)
driver
uhoh
hi iq

not posting in that time frame

maelstrom
scoop (innocent)
gunslinger
narwhal
tiburon
wingnut
nemesis till that post.(most likely mafia)

Since i think nem was mafia and they were looking to get something started with that post that its a good chance most of the innocents are in group 1 and the mafia are in group 2. if nemesis was one then there are 3 out of the 7 in the bottom group that have a good chance of being mafia.

if i had to choose 3 from that group it would probably be gunslinger narwhal and not sure on the third.c-note bothers me even tho they are in first group and at this time would probably be my third choice.

Here nemesis says that the post was worthy of the vote but he doesn't vote that way.
i know nemesis is dead and this looks like a waste of time but i think it cements to me he was the lone mafia. and that IQ is an innocent.

Let me catch up on todays posts and i will get a vote in at that time.

Well with the post from Mad and how Nem died (getting hit) i will solve this little conundrum for you. Nem was the outside man from the big city mafia that the locals knew nothing about.

Now atleast we have one less mafia to root out. BUT the problem is that they all can talk to each other and they know we know what they did now.