Mafia 30: Witness Protection - The Play

[[AC] HI IQ]

YAY

im not voting yet but there are a few that stand out. i still suspect wing nut. obviously i dont like the vote on me but even more it was a lone safe late vote. maelstrom with the switch is curious but uhoh with the vote on no1 sucks too. right now im leaning those on driver innocent but there could be scum in there though i doubt it. i think they voted where it wont matter.

my list right now is wing nut uhoh and ??? im not sure of a 3rd maybe maelstrom or narwhal. i need to read rickets posts more to maybe see why they were chose.

 

[[AC] Tree_Hugger]

excuses for what? UM..If i recall correctly, driver jumped on my case and twisted my words pretty hard, after i called you and rickets out?..so, my curiosity is this...why?...You befriended ( him) and he ended up dead. looks great for you. Driver had nothing to loose, and she was after me like a starving guard dog who saw fresh meat.

Believe me to be mafia if you want. I haven't been very helpful, so would be no loss and if my death would cause people to find real mafia, then great. I really didn't think Driver was mafia...I really thought Old3Toes was. I have nothing to offer but a lot of uncertainty and there's no telling if I was right about Narwhal or not. I believe that my posts speak for themselves, I've been honest and given my opinions freely, but I've been fooled and I deserve to hang.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

well, if I were to go by Driver's list... I would have to say she kept the heat off of Tree the most.... just a thought

in case anyone is trying to find her list, driver's list is post #377

I am going to add a list of the players and add where I have them from 1-10 (1 being innocent-10 evil)
Old3toes-Known innocent/Vig
Scoop411-Known innocent/Doctor
Nemesis-unknown

BadHaggis-6, not a good feel from them, but they really haven't posted much to go on. Aside from voting me yesterday and today, and commenting they think the me and Hammer thing was set up, only questioned IQ and Nems really. Their view and opinions seem to be the same with no added thoughts as of yet.

C-note-7, Many of C's post bother me, I do get a scummy feel from them, although others stand out more to me.

Doomsday998-5, Really no feel either way on them..will have to wait and see more posts from them.

Gunslinger-7, hasn't posted much at all really and what they do post is very short...not adding much of their thoughts out there and it gives me a bad feeling from it, but as with C-note others stand out more to me.

Hammerhead 991-5, Ok, obviously my view has went back and forth like crazy with this person. I do get more of a innocent feel from their posts and think they are trying to help contrary to what you may think I feel.

HI IQ-8, They give me a scummy vibe more then most...the post they make seem to contradict themselves when questioned about what they have said.

maelstrom-8, They also give me a much higher scum feel then most others, most posts by them make me stop and do not sit well with me.

narwhal-6, Another I really can not get a feel from because they are not posting, now I do believe they are a busy person...but I do not like them stating it over and over instead of adding any real thoughts. Will wait for more posts from them, but at this time have them leaning more innocent.

RICKETS-5, yes, I can see where people are concerned about Rickets, but when reading their post I really do not get a mafia vibe..I do believe they are trying to post helpful and answer questions to them honestly.

Tiburon321-8, the more I look at their post the more I see mafia from them, I get very bad vibes from their post and have them very high up on my list right now.

Tree_Hugger-6, although they can be questioned about their day one vote...so can many others I do not get the mafia vibe from their posts either and have them leaning more innocent.

UhOhChongo-8, I am still not comfortable with Uh-Oh at all, I still feel like their posts have scum behind them.

wing nut-7, Not helping the town at all IMO, what they do post has nothing to it and I have them high up there also.

So I believe my vote is going to land on either Wing nut, Tib, Mael or Uh-Oh.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

well, if I were to go by Driver's list... I would have to say she kept the heat off of Tree the most.... just a thought

in case anyone is trying to find her list, driver's list is post #377

I wouldn't put too much weight in her lists especially the recent ones when she knew she could be going down. Instead I went back and saw that she did spat w/Tree over his vote for Doomsday:

Although I am all for calling people out for not posting or voting, this caught my eye a bit...simply because at this time you, yourself had really not posted much yet..I think this was your 4th post, and the only one that really said anything. It was still early for a day one so someone not posting yet (at that time) really IMO is not suspicous enough for a VOTE, yes maybe a post about "where are you" or something but a vote? Especially when others had not posted yet either.
Not really a reason to get my vote or anything but it was something that stood out to me a bit.

Clearly it stood out to you, you took the time to comment about it twice now. I'd say that the vote for Doomsday did it's job. It got people talking and reacting to it. How else are we supposed to figure out people's roles unless we can manage to get them talking and reacting? What better way to get reactions from people then to get some votes out there? Do you really think the Mafia are going to throw out any more posts then they need to? Do you really think they want to give us any more information than absolutely necessary? It's all well and good to believe they are going to be middle of the road posters, and that may very well happen, but someone who isn't going to post and be helpful is going to help the mafia as well, no matter which side they are on, so it's best to get them drawn out and posting IMO.

So Driver, is Doomsday a teamate of yours that you want to protect, or are they an innocent that you want to try to kiss up to?

HAHAHA...do you not realize you JUST described yourself in that post? Oh, and do you really think Mafia are going to "protect" each other?

How did I describe myself? I have nothing to hide and I will post accordingly. And yes, I do believe they will protect each other by at least not voting for each other and not calling each other out and tossing out doubts as they can to mislead us and steer us away from them. It's going to be hard enough for us to get a read on people, they should not need to do much and frankly, the less they say and do on the first couple days, the better off they will be as we start connecting the dots.

Thanks for completely ignoring the question addressed specifically to YOU however at the end of my post. And for not offering any better suggestions to my question on how else we should get people posting/reacting to get information out there to start forming opinions.

So here's a list of the pple she's had spats w/:
HI IQ
UHOH
Treehugger
Narwhal

She somewhat was negative about:
Gunslinger (voted against driver)
Wingnut
BadHaggins (voted against driver)

There is a chance that one of the above could be the Big City Goon but I think that honor might belong to someone else not mentioned above.

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

I have to say Uh-Oh looks pretty darn scummy right now. Yes, I realize Rickets said pretty much the same thing....but isn't it mafia that usually post the "first thought" of it, and wait for others to follow? Rickets has posted a couple things that made me stop for a sec, but not much more then that. Uh-oh on the other hand has many times.

Narwhale's vote for no one seemed a bit convenient IMO, Wingnut also stands out to me...actually many people have me worried but after that night fall these people seem to stand out the most to me.

One other thing is standing out to me, not to start the whole me and Hammer thing again, but Hammer did post there was a train forming on 3toes way back when there were only 2 on it, I don't remember what post number it was right now, I just know I questioned them on how it was a train with only 2 people.

I will be back later this evening or in the morning to post more thoughts after I have re read everything yet again.

As far as my list I would have to say:
Narwhal
Uh-Oh
Are very high up there for me right now,

Narwhal-The vote for no-one twice has me very concerned, that and the fact they seem to be not helping at all. Yes, I know they have put out a list and made one other post with some actual "thought" behind it, but they can not commet to anything, and IMO are laying low...even though they post they are not, also not sure yet why they say UH-OH is a mafia "vet"

Uh-Oh-That post before night fall just really made me uncomfortable, and the post of "I knew 3toes would show innocent" really added to this.

Wing-nut is looking bad to me also, along with IQ, Tib and Tree, I have way more people looking guilty then innocent at this point.

Here is where everyone lays as far as posts go, wow Doomsday, wing nut and narwhal...your all helping a whole lot aren't you!

Sorry, just can't see anything but "scummy" from this and seems to be setting things up IMO.

I like the "speculations here...either it was mafia or innocents that got it going??? Ya, think!

I do agree that Tree seems to be one to watch, but is this what that post was for earlier, setting things up to throw suspicions to someone?
Yes, watch me I would expect that as EVERYONE needs to be watched IMO.


This one really didn't sit well with me when I came back across it...are you saying you know how Narwhal usually plays?

You know I may as well get this out of the way, your posts pretty much all seem scummy, like a person "trying" to seem helpful....I vote to lynch Uh-Ohchongo

Think she is defending Tree here some.

Doomsday has remained VERY low, which yes looks scummy and I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up a UD at some point in the game. I'm just not sure that Mafia would stay THAT low. It has happened though, I would love to see more thoughts from them...but I don't think it will happen.
Wing nut really isn't sitting well with me, the only things they have posted really so far is excuses and "I don't think we can trust anyone" as I have stated before I know RL can make it difficult to play at times, but when you have a chance to post instead of "I'm busy, I have a job" as your only post...getting some actual thoughts out would be the better choice IMO. I find them scummy.


Ummm, Hammer....I am not a low poster???

Just checkin in before lunch...


Can you explain the above highlighted in red a little more? Yes, I know he WAS a PR...but I want to make sure I am reading your wording correctly are you saying you thought 3toes did in fact post like a townie WITH a PR?

Hammer and I are an act huh...nice, you do not at all see the possibility for 2 innocents having it out....you wouldn't happen to be distancing your self from a planned "Hit" victim are you?

I do have to agree with one point here though and that is Gun, may not be the lone mafia...but their play is questionable to say the least.


Still can't drop the Lady G thing can you? Regardless if I am or am not Lady G...what bearing does that play for the game itself?

I am going to add a list of the players and add where I have them from 1-10 (1 being innocent-10 evil)
Old3toes-Known innocent/Vig
Scoop411-Known innocent/Doctor
Nemesis-unknown

BadHaggis-6, not a good feel from them, but they really haven't posted much to go on. Aside from voting me yesterday and today, and commenting they think the me and Hammer thing was set up, only questioned IQ and Nems really. Their view and opinions seem to be the same with no added thoughts as of yet.

C-note-7, Many of C's post bother me, I do get a scummy feel from them, although others stand out more to me.

Doomsday998-5, Really no feel either way on them..will have to wait and see more posts from them.

Gunslinger-7, hasn't posted much at all really and what they do post is very short...not adding much of their thoughts out there and it gives me a bad feeling from it, but as with C-note others stand out more to me.

Hammerhead 991-5, Ok, obviously my view has went back and forth like crazy with this person. I do get more of a innocent feel from their posts and think they are trying to help contrary to what you may think I feel.

HI IQ-8, They give me a scummy vibe more then most...the post they make seem to contradict themselves when questioned about what they have said.

maelstrom-8, They also give me a much higher scum feel then most others, most posts by them make me stop and do not sit well with me.

narwhal-6, Another I really can not get a feel from because they are not posting, now I do believe they are a busy person...but I do not like them stating it over and over instead of adding any real thoughts. Will wait for more posts from them, but at this time have them leaning more innocent.

RICKETS-5, yes, I can see where people are concerned about Rickets, but when reading their post I really do not get a mafia vibe..I do believe they are trying to post helpful and answer questions to them honestly.

Tiburon321-8, the more I look at their post the more I see mafia from them, I get very bad vibes from their post and have them very high up on my list right now.

Tree_Hugger-6, although they can be questioned about their day one vote...so can many others I do not get the mafia vibe from their posts either and have them leaning more innocent.

UhOhChongo-8, I am still not comfortable with Uh-Oh at all, I still feel like their posts have scum behind them.

wing nut-7, Not helping the town at all IMO, what they do post has nothing to it and I have them high up there also.

So I believe my vote is going to land on either Wing nut, Tib, Mael or Uh-Oh.

You know the more I look at Gun, the more I am seeing mafia, maybe the lone goon...I don't know, but he seem to through insignificant stuff out there when we do get a post from him and his answers to questions are so vauge I do so I am going to vote to lynch Gunslingger

This could switch to Tib or Mael before nightfall at this point I believe I could be comfortable with any of these

Really, when looking back through the posts, there are many things that made me think twice when it came to Mael...when I got to this post here, it really didn't sit well with me, I know none of know what he was for sure, I just think he was to quick to put out there that Nem must of been the "lone Mafia"...I believe he knows because the mafia are the only ones who got to find out what he was (yeah, thanks Mad!) and I think he was maybe trying to get us to think we are down to only 3 mafia (and maybe we are)...but I believe if he went back to the rules and looked at this, he would of looked over the "hit" rules too and noticed what Mad pointed out to us, he just didn't post that part cause it wouldn't of made us believe that Nem was in fact the Lone one.


That is what made me raise Mael.

Thanks for the luck wish! I went down and talked to them but you have to have 1yr. experience, and well I don't so I wont be getting that one.


Nope no "false accusation here...here are a few things I am talking about...

So if you do think I'm mafia...why pick wing nut, if you are so confident about me why would you NOT want it one sided? Isn't that kinda be the point, to vote off the ones you see as most scummy?


Yes, you posted a list which is great...but my lord could you of made it any more confusing?


This is the second time you "miss worded things"

Here is another "miss worded one for you. I didn't make it up and actually the quote I was referring to was in my question...here is the post I questioned you about.

But it was just "miss worded" like the other post.

Although these are not in themselves big deals...putting them together paints another picture, I do think others look more scummy and is why I just had you as looking Mafia and not in my top picks.

attacking Hi Iq

looking through her posts and accusations i think we have

innocent

hammer
hi Iq
UhOh
narwhal
Gun
Tiburon
Maelstrom
wing
cnote
doom





mafia

Tree
Badhaggis

this is just going by posts and her rankings. Bad and Tree seemed to get the lesser of the attention.Doom could possibly be put under mafia. no real attacks either just mentions here and there while there was no heat on them.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

Alright, I'm fatigued, so will look at the more recent spats tomorrow. Some may be staged as she knew she was up for the lynch.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

Think she is defending Tree here some.

attacking Hi Iq

looking through her posts and accusations i think we have

innocent

hammer
hi Iq
UhOh
narwhal
Gun
Tiburon
Maelstrom
wing
cnote
doom





mafia

Tree
Badhaggis

this is just going by posts and her rankings. Bad and Tree seemed to get the lesser of the attention.Doom could possibly be put under mafia. no real attacks either just mentions here and there while there was no heat on them.

You kinda have to take into account the severity of the posts as some are just for distancing. BadHaggins voted for Driver both days. I find it hard to believe the Mafia are that brash.

 

[Dangerdoll]

I dont know if I would give all her attacks any merit either though, should could have disagreed with even her partner.... especially getting closer to the end.

Crap... sorry... forgot to change

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

Sorry BadHaggis, I keep misspelling your name for some reason. Aren't you glad that's not your real id, lol?

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

lmao