Mafia 30: Witness Protection - The Play

I don't know, this is really screwed up. I really think mael pulled one over on us. its crazy, I had a gut feeling last night, and like the rest of you, since we all went along, i was appeased some. I am now kicking myself. I wish however that we had some other way of knowing. its killing me. If he is the detective, we will go down in mafia history as the idiots who killed our detective, but if hes not, and we let him go another night, he will bask in the glory forever I am sure.

I think We are doing the right thing by lynching him. so, my vote stands.
 
[AC] C-note;1384406 said:
I tried to post earlier, but had network issues or something. I had a long post put together.

There is no way I am okay with this nobody vote on the third day. I don't like UhOh's nobody vote from day two either.

I also get the feeling that mael and tree are being set up. The more I read the posts a few hours before nightfall and the ones right after the more something does not click. I think narwhal and gunslinger have pulled something over on us.

With that said, I see the only good choices would be wing nut, tib, or doomsday. Mostly all of them for not having input that I have felt as relevant or helpful. I think I am a little more okay with Hammer, I do wish hammer would focus more on the game than who is who. I do not see as much pushing from Hammer as I would expect. I don't know what to say about UhOh, I don't want to forget his vote for nobody.

Wing nut's vote for nobody bothers me. I already have them as a suspect and this does not change anything.

I vote to lynch wing nut
Two questions, C-Note:

I believe you were one of the last voters on night 3. The votes were tied between Tib and Mael. In the above post you named Tib as a good choice but yet did not vote him. Why did you not vote Tib as Wingnut was a wasted vote?

And what did you mean by "I do not see as much pushing from Hammer as I would expect."? I thought I'd been prodding pple for answers, so much so that Mael asked if I'd missed anyone that day. I sort of had the feeling that ya'll were playing good Mafia/bad Mafia with me.
 
[AC] Driver8;1381103 said:


Originally Posted by [AC] maelstrom
Looking at the night fall posts I can't help but notice the color changes. We know the 2 innocents are blue.but Nemesis isn't. I can only think that nemesis was the big city goon.if he was innocent i would expect blue.

from the big city goon description it says Through your excellent investigative skills, you know that the ACville mafia members are Player X, Player Y, and Player Z. They do not know your role, and you may NOT communicate with them outside of the thread.

since he was unknown he doesn't get red.


i want to go back and read some of nemisis posts and todays post before i comment on anything
Really, when looking back through the posts, there are many things that made me think twice when it came to Mael...when I got to this post here, it really didn't sit well with me, I know none of know what he was for sure, I just think he was to quick to put out there that Nem must of been the "lone Mafia"...I believe he knows because the mafia are the only ones who got to find out what he was (yeah, thanks Mad!) and I think he was maybe trying to get us to think we are down to only 3 mafia (and maybe we are)...but I believe if he went back to the rules and looked at this, he would of looked over the "hit" rules too and noticed what Mad pointed out to us, he just didn't post that part cause it wouldn't of made us believe that Nem was in fact the Lone one.


That is what made me raise Mael.
This was G's response when I asked her why she was thinking about voting Mael. I'm torn if it is for distancing, but also as important, I'm beginning to wonder if Driver wanted us to think that Mael was wrong about Nemesis being the BCG when in fact he really may have been. I'm gonna go look at Driver's lists to see how Mael fared on them.
 
[AC] Driver8;1378939 said:
I don't know...that is strange, usually it says what they are...


I appreciate the list and reasons here, I just have a question though...what make you think that Uh-Oh is a "vet" mafia player?
Here Driver is responding to Tree's question about why Nemesis' name wasn't colored in the nighttime narration. Can't decide if this is a smug feeling I'm getting from Driver or not. If it's smug, then most likely Nem wasn't the BCG.

[AC] Driver8;1380368 said:
I am going to add a list of the players and add where I have them from 1-10 (1 being innocent-10 evil)
Old3toes-Known innocent/Vig
Scoop411-Known innocent/Doctor
Nemesis-unknown

BadHaggis-6, not a good feel from them, but they really haven't posted much to go on. Aside from voting me yesterday and today, and commenting they think the me and Hammer thing was set up, only questioned IQ and Nems really. Their view and opinions seem to be the same with no added thoughts as of yet.

C-note-7, Many of C's post bother me, I do get a scummy feel from them, although others stand out more to me.

Doomsday998-5, Really no feel either way on them..will have to wait and see more posts from them.

Gunslinger-7, hasn't posted much at all really and what they do post is very short...not adding much of their thoughts out there and it gives me a bad feeling from it, but as with C-note others stand out more to me.

Hammerhead 991-5, Ok, obviously my view has went back and forth like crazy with this person. I do get more of a innocent feel from their posts and think they are trying to help contrary to what you may think I feel.

HI IQ-8, They give me a scummy vibe more then most...the post they make seem to contradict themselves when questioned about what they have said.

maelstrom-8, They also give me a much higher scum feel then most others, most posts by them make me stop and do not sit well with me.

narwhal-6, Another I really can not get a feel from because they are not posting, now I do believe they are a busy person...but I do not like them stating it over and over instead of adding any real thoughts. Will wait for more posts from them, but at this time have them leaning more innocent.

RICKETS-5, yes, I can see where people are concerned about Rickets, but when reading their post I really do not get a mafia vibe..I do believe they are trying to post helpful and answer questions to them honestly.

Tiburon321-8, the more I look at their post the more I see mafia from them, I get very bad vibes from their post and have them very high up on my list right now.

Tree_Hugger-6, although they can be questioned about their day one vote...so can many others I do not get the mafia vibe from their posts either and have them leaning more innocent.

UhOhChongo-8, I am still not comfortable with Uh-Oh at all, I still feel like their posts have scum behind them.

wing nut-7, Not helping the town at all IMO, what they do post has nothing to it and I have them high up there also.

So I believe my vote is going to land on either Wing nut, Tib, Mael or Uh-Oh.
Well Mael is not looking good on her list, but Mael could still be the BCG.

Also it's curious how she listed Tibs. There were 3 votes on her at the time, though.

And her description of C-Note is a bit curious as well, saying othes stand out more.
 
[AC] maelstrom;1378428 said:
I have to say that Hammerhead is making me look at driver very hard. I will have to go back and read the exchanges again but from what i read and remember it looks like hammer is hitting the nail on the head.
Mael first mentioned interest in Driver night 1 before Night.

[AC] maelstrom;1378936 said:
That blew! Our viglanate kills our dr before we lynch him,vigalante must have been bishop. i don't get the hit as nemesis was on some peoples lists. Sorry bra but asking for a list 24 hours into the game plus some of the other posts didn't sit right.

i was really surprised that old3toes didn't vote c-note hoping the tie went the other way

narwhals sudden change of opinion in voting me is suspect
hammerheads case against driver is intresting
c-note bears watching, their vote was the nail in the coffin
gunslinger being the fourth vote on c-note but not making a case except for reason B is something to look at, what is reason b? is it the innocent is going home,no one will switch to c-note so sitting here is no threat and will make me look good later if c-note does show mafia?

glad we have 48 hours.
Then Mael mentioned her again after night. Would the BCG or Don do this to one of their own? I can't decide atm. It's up to you to decide Mayor and wether you want to save Mael or not tonight. I won't be around for night and I'm pretty sure they will hit me as they've cowardly taken my partner, Gunslinger, last night.

I think the team may be Driver, Tiburon, C-Note (Don).

If Mael is really the detective then UHOH is most likely innocent as they cannot be the BCG and I can't see them being the Don.

HI IQ and Narwhal would be my picks for the BCG.
 
Wow, looks like I'm the only one on today. Just wanted to add one more thought and hopefully I won't think anymore about this game until late tonight.

If Maelstrom is Mafia he has seemed protective of some. From memory Doomsday sticks out the most and Driver was also protective of her at the beginning of the game when Tree voted for her. I would also look at UHOH and C-note.
 
I retract my vote for Narwhal and vote to lynch C-note.

C-note just gives me bad vibes.I'd like to see the answer posted to them by HH also.

If I'm saved by the mayor my investigation is going to be Narwhal, they are really the only other player I had a good suspicion of being mafia. Hopefully they are the BCG. I think if I get another townie returned to me I might just commit suicide in RL lol.

I'm posting my investigation hoping if I'm right that I will be hit instead of HH being hit. I don't know if the mafia will chance my being saved by the mayor or not but this might help HH live another day.
 
Vote count thru post 828

maelstrom (8) - Doomsday 778, Tree_Hugger 783, Hammerhead 787, HI IQ 789, BadHaggis 791, C-note 808, narwhal 812, UhOhChongo 813

C-note (1) - maelstrom 828


Nightfall in 2 1/2 hours... 8:00 pm CDT
 
I don't really have anything more to say until we see how nightfall plays out. But, I do want to say that I am very happy that we haven't lost anyone to UD's. That rocks!
 
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