Mafia 31: Bounty Hunter Edition

Lets do some work on ZS.

This is post 526 : There is some interaction here with Ogre prior; Ogre votes for me and then ZS moves off me to RB because of this. Being objective this could be taken as an innocent move because ZS does not wish to back the same horse as Ogre, a known mafia. It does not however help ZS that Ogre returned to RB, albeit too late to matter.


I retract my vote for Scoop and vote to lynch Rb.

I was uneasy with Rb on Scoop too, now with Ogre having a "moment" I am completely paranoid. Based on my history playing this game my mind is screaming run away run away. Ogre you went from voting for Rb to voting WITH Rb. Why the change of heart?

Post 507 : My vote was not an OMGUS it was well flagged before entering it. Also ZS has never made a consistent case against me.

Heh, OMGUS :P I had no idea it was you Coler. It doesn't change anything though. I think you hit HN last night to finish up your frame job on me. With the back and forth he and I have had the last few games do you think I would be that transparent? My only real fear is that I get recruited tonight.

Post 475 : I never got why it looked bad for RB that he swapped last minute to HI IQ from Me :

Bob looks bad for you bud, that last minute swap to try and take out Hi IQ instead of Scoop.

Let's face it we just got bent over. I still don't know why Driver and UhOh UDed. It is not that hard to get a vote in in a 48 hour period. It makes it very aggravating to play. Now the Mafia are going to pick up one more at the next nightfall. So assuming there are three I would pick Scoop, Ogre, and Rb in no particular order. Scoop for being all over the place, Ogre for the hit and run posts (if it is real world stuff I hope it gets better, but that still doesn't make you Innocent), and Rbs late vote change.

Contrast the above Post with ZS's dogmatic attitude towards my mafianess. I understand of course that his ultimate reason for not voting me was because Ogre voted me...but why, when Ogre is in his list too does he not vote Ogre ?

Post 404 : ZS is attacking another known innocent. In between 475 and this post there is just loads of semi BS joking around, some discussion of rules, nothing helpful.

My "humor" may be bad but your pathetic attempts at refocusing blame at me are to be equally repelled. The fact remains that you had little to sy about me till I placed my vote on you, then you used HN's vote for me to try and turn everyone in my direction. I'm done with you though, I don't respond well to snarky remarks. I sense a presence I haven't felt since...

Comments like this always grind my gears. I find there are two types of people that call people nazis. A) Those that are too young or uneducated to understand the ridiculousness of such a statement, and B) those that have no defense otherwise. This isn't Castle Wolfenstein.

Post 386 is another attack on UhOhChongo.

Post 346 is another long winded attack on UhOhChongo who is ZS's best suspect for being the Don. Anyone else have UhOh as the Don ?

post 342 : Yes it was a wasted vote, and one easily explained as well. Lol my duff votes on night one and two could have looked far more scummy; this is classically what happens when you are innocent and don't know who the mafia are. Of course the mafia know who is who and can plant their votes to look as innocent as possible. Yes its a bit of a catch 22.

I'm with you HN, I thought JM was being her normal self and slipping her role, and the catch by Scoop seemed to confirm it. But I should have retracted my vote as it was a waste.

Next sequence of votes are some rules talk...asked a question of Lady G...nothing of substance.

313 : I post this because whenever ZS compliments me I get an itchy feeling around my neck. Also, there is not consistency from here throughout the next day...in that ZS doesn't have me as don because that would be stupid, but is convinced I'm mafia...presumably because I 'saved' Driver by voting DD...of course Driver was innocent too, just I broke a tie in circumstances where in fact DD was also innocent.

Post 186 is lengthy - this is an excerpt. My comment is that I caught JM's thing about not using her alias and asked if she was really trying to say she was the last player to post, hadn't posted again etc. Thing is I didn't vote because her 'slip' was capable of innocent explanation, especially as the day ran on, and it became obvious from her profile that she really had not been back on the site. ZS however jumped on, and left the vote there, which was as he admitted above a wasted vote...but perhaps ZS did not want to break the tie on Driver & DD because both innocent so no need to do that, and no need to campaign against anyone else where two innocents are up for lynching.

I think the rest of his game posts are pretty much the usual starting off BS that you couldn't hang any thing on.

Must have a think about all that now.

Interesting. I was ready to place my vote on UhOh until the list was clarified by Ice. But at this time it appears JM was trying to play us, as JM must be Tiburion. Until that point is made clear by her...

I vote to lynch Judgemax.


Well that stunk guys. I was trying to get home to see if JM ever made it back but I got stuck at work so I apologize for that. Scoop have you forgotten to take your Ridilin? That was some of the best smoke blowing I have ever seen, and I agreed with you about JM so if you think I am Mafia tell me why please. I really would like to know. You are now numero uno on my list.

So we now have 11 players and 4 or 5 of those could be Mafia. We need to try and come together and figure out who the Don is before Night 3. I don't think Scoop is the Don, it would be a stupid ploy.
 
OK Guys I've really had a think about it and this is not my last post at all.

Basically, Ogre posted his transfer to RB before he knew he was dead, i.e. he was genuinely saving himself. Ogre then is proven mafia. The scenarios :

Ogre & RB are mafia, Ogre is Don and hitting RB for the obvious reason that it is not in the mafia interests to risk the Don even in a 3 way tie. Excect we know that Ogre is not the Don.

Ogre and RB are mafia, Ogre is hitting RB for naked self-preservation; complete break down of team relationships. I consider this unlikely based on how well the Mafia has played this game over Day 1 and Day 2.

Ogre is saving himself and hitting RB as an innocent; this makes sense in one particular way; if the Mafia know they are turning, and who they are turning, this lynch (unless the BH does something) plus the turn, leaving 6 players Day Four (again unless the BH does something) could in fact win the Game for the Mafia, coupled with their turn of a townie. This is most likely for me, at this point in time.

Consequences of me being correct about the above; RB was not turned...because Ogre tried to take him on the lynch.

Cast list :

RB - heavily leaned innocent
Scoop - I am of course saying I am innocent - myself and Old3toes take a bow for calling Ogre last night.
Old3toes - presumed innocent last night...could have been turned.
BKW : Ogre is calling BKW innocent before he dances the Newgate Skedaddle last night. I was pointing this out that he knows BKW is innocent...protecting him or enlisting him to support Ogre. I don't know yet.
Lady G I don't know but I've leaned Mafia since the start.
ZS I don't know but I've leaned Mafia since the start.

From last night, before we killed Ogre if I'm right, then Me, Old3toes and RB were all practically known innocent. That leaves BKW, Lady G and ZS for the mafia..of which there can only be two maximum based on the fact that even with the turn, and 6 left playing, the Mafia do not out number the town. (i.e all three can not be mafia).

I think a marker has been put down by somebody who is claiming BH. For another set of reasons I might even be inclined to believe them.

In any event, all efforts need to be focused on picking a lynch candidate from ZS, BKW and Lady G, unless the turn practically comes out and admits it (go on you know you want to) I'm currently not liking ZS and Lady G as innocent. Sorry 3toes but I believe you may have been turned on the basis that the Mafia know BKW is innocent, and you as a turn can continue on consistently in the vein of last night, to campaign against him.

Come on people give me some feedback here. This is very doable tonight with a bit of thought. Silence assists the mafia today.
 
My final thought for now is that until 3toes and I swapped to Ogre, there no activity at all...bubkiss. This says to me that the Mafia were happy with the three way tie at that point in time, being me, RB, Bkw.
 
Heheh I just reread BKW's post - lol he claimed BH and I didn't see it. Skimming Shwimming.
OK Guys it is simple. If there is someone out there who wants to say I am the real BH then bring it to us immediately. If BKW is telling the truth then the postion last night was :

Ogre - mafia
RB - innocent
Old3toes - innocent
Scoop - innocent
BKW - innocent
ZS - unknown; my mafia suspect
Lady G - unknown; my mafia suspect

And it could well be that ZS and G are in fact both mafia.

You all know who I have said almost from the get go I believed to be mafia. For me, above is the position if BKW is truthful on being the BH. Lets hear from the real BH, if BKW is giving us a load of BS, and quickly.
 
Lady G :

Post 501. Lady G is saying she will be happy to vote for RB or me (I say we are both innocent based on last night) or the claimed BH - also an innocent.

Well, crap I can't find it but I know I had two votes at some point...Bkw and I don't know who else.

Guys, I really think BKW is a good one to add in there. If everyone is going to go with Scoop or RB I will switch, I got back to work FINALLY so I wont be here at nightfall. I will switch before I go, if I do switch it will most likely be to Scoop.

Yes, 3toes...I have not been posting as much this round, and I'm not going into reasons why. I said my head is not into it right now, and that I just didn't have the mindset for it at the moment. That will have to satisfy you for now...if it doesn't I'm sorry, it's all I am willing to say it's personal and will stay that way.

Post 535 is Lady G & Ogre fencing in a very non aggressive way.

Post 528 Lady G correctly assesses a BS theory by Ogre...but no suspicion on foot of it of Ogre and certainly no vote :

Ok, Ogre I have a question about your "theory" here. Our main goal is the Don right? IF RB and Scoop are both mafia (which they very well may be)...and Scoop is the "sacrifice" then Scoop could NOT be the DON right? They wouldn't sacrifice their Don....so why pick the one that they are "sacrificing"?


Post 476 voting for the claimed BH

OMG, that was a terrible nightfall....

Well, guess I'll stick with HI IQ, so I vote to lynch Hi IQ/BKW

And honestly the rest of Lady G's posts are just waffle...sort of smoke and mirrors stuff...a lot of 'you have me concerned' and 'please answer these questions' etc. etc.

Would be great to hear from her though :D or from the real BH if they want to tell us they're out there lol
 
Hmmmm, interesting, I wonder if the turn was a last minute choice. From Ogres late attempt to vote switch, at least they were talking.

Right now I am willing to do a vote on bkw or lady, and am fine with 24 hrs.

g/o I couldn't be on last night, my back had some severe issues and I took some serious pain killers. g/o

yikes RB buddy - this is a bit worrying. I presume you saw BKW's post claiming BH ? In the absence of anyone else claiming BH you have to be more careful about voting him.

If we take BKW as being the BH that has to mean that one of ZS or Lady G is in fact the don; when they lose their don they lose their hits.
 
Okey Dokey folks its been a long day of no posting from anyone - bit surprising. I presume the mafia are just completely stymied as to what to do and have no clue what their next move is.

I said all along I didn't see it for BKW as mafia, he is a claimed BH with no one else willing to contradict this. This narrows the mafia, before the turn, to Lady G and ZS. I vote to lynch Zsandman . Old3toes I get the feeling that you would if you could but you can't.
 
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