Mafia 31: Bounty Hunter Edition

[OgreMkV]

OK, in an attempt to help out, i've gone through and pulled what I could find about people's thoughts and actions through the turn. Now that we know that everyone who has died is innocent or power role for us, we can kind of see who was pushing for those innocents.

Yes, this information is 20/20 hindsight, but the mafia already know and knew at the time of their voting.

Scoop, Rb, & DD.... I put DD as the Don. Just in case I "go away".

Driver- if you're on, you really need to unvote yourself and place one if you're innocent.

Hooked was innocent and lists scoop, rb, and dd. Of the 3, DD was also innocent. Did Hooked pick up some of the mafia?

Oh no not at all. It is obvious that gunslinger will not be the person to start voting for me because he/she/it knows I'm innocent. I am sure that the best vote to hit a mafia tonight is Gunslinger, however I also think Dangerdoll is a good suspect. Are driver and Dangerdoll tied hah yeah I'm skimming, help me out, please ?

My mafia list is Lady G, Gunslinger and Zsandman.

I don't know about Dangerdoll.

I have real suspicion about Hooked Newbie.

I will see you all in Mafia 32

Scoop has issues with HN (dead) and Gunslinger (also dead and innocent). What does that make LadyG and Z?

That sucked hard!

I vote to lynch Scoop.

So hooked and scoop are not on the same team (at least hooked thinks so).

I voted Dangerdoll because I believed her to be more likely to be mafia than Driver, so why let it go to a toss. I made a decision and it was wrong. Of course I wish Dangerdoll was not dead now that I know she was innocent. You can say I nailed her coffin I say yah boo that's the game, I have nothing to be ashamed of except with the benefit of hindsight

Of course ultimately I was not the only player who made a decision on Dangerdoll as the Bounty Hunter was taking Dangerdoll anyway it seems. Lady G you spent a good bit of time making a case against Dangerdoll. Are you taking any credit for this ?

And I was wrong on Judgemax. That was more of a hunch based on saying her alias apparently not working where she seemed to imply that she was the fourteenth player etc. and then did not bother to answer any questions.

I am still going on Lady G, then Gunslinger as being mafia. Could I be wrong. Yes. Are they my best suspects, yes. With Lady G shading Gunslinger slightly.

Hooked Newbie is my next consideration. I know he's voting for me which doesn't really concern me at this point. I threw a vote for Hooked who had none at the time, got a bit of a reaction, and then pulled it pronto. This was by no means a scummy move as far as I'm concerned anyway. I think Hooked is over reacting to this and has no real fair case against me.

I picked you to vote for initially because you had nothing on you. Then I retracted and looked all wierd and then people jumped on my ***. I found this interesting. Its really only your reaction since it all that makes me consider you possible mafia.

You kept/keep banging on about how I voted Dangerdoll even though I had only suspicions for her. I say again i felt more strongly that she was mafia than I do Driver. This was the tie I broke it and was wrong. But you ask around this is pro town behaviour although it did not work out great.

I think scoop needs to be on my list also.

My list is HI IQ, UhOh and Scoop.

O3T's list. UhOh turns out innocent.

Sorry if you think my questions are pointless, or silly or anything else. Really, it doesn't matter to me at this time.

I may not be back on before next night fall so I vote to lynch Uh-OH

I have no idea if I will be here or not and do not want to UD, if I can't. The statement at the beginning of the game is my biggest thing with them.

If I am back, I may switch.

Sorry if I end up not being able to help more these next few days. Lynch me if you all want for it..but I am not mafia and you will gain nothing for it.

GAH...sorry I retract my vote on Uh-Oh and vote to lynch Hi-IQ

Sorry again everyone

G's choices.

I might as well get this in now.

I vote to lynch scoop

I am looking for the Don, they have the power to add another Mafia on Night 3 so we need them gone before then.

This has been discussed to death but here in UhOhs first post they claim that Old3Toes is Bob when Bob was the first to post and clearly said he would not use an alias. This is the first of several instances of scimming I have seen from them, but with only 8 posts it is hard to follow.

I've already made comments about this post but a few additions. Ice said in the start up that these names were drawn at random and they were made for last round so trying to tie Bob to a particular name is a waste. Also, most of UhOhs posts are about the number of Mafia. Yes, it would be nice to know but we can speculate on it till the cows come home, the best way to find out is to lynch some.

The use of "dude" aside UhOh is focused on O3T and the number of Mafia.

Ice had clearly stated 14 players, I agree that Scoop called out JM and still wish we had gotten more info from her. Plus a vote for O3T here for "scummy twisting of facts" which is talking about the number of players.

So here UhOhs list has become: O3T, Gunslinger, and HN. Name calling but no help.

**Yawn**

Scimming the rules of what the BH can do.

This was directed at me when I tried to rationalize our stats. But in fact UhOh can't even keep their own facts straight. If you follow Ices words literally there would be 2-4 Mafia. Regardless I think I have 1 of them.

I vote to lynch UhOh (Spaghetti O's)

Nothing but arguing and semantics, misdirection, and posts that are made to look helpful but do nothing to help us find Mafia. Also, one of the lowest post counts, I believe Scoop may be another Mafia but after the sideshow before Night fall I do not think they are the Don. If Scoop is Mafia and was trying to draw votes off someone it would have to be Driver but I do not really think Driver is evil, so either Scoop is Innocent and is just a little overexcited or is trying to screw with us.

BIg thing on UhOH (dead and innocent)

Well, last night sucked.Maybe the bodyguard took a chance and wasn't around near nightfall to see how things were progressing...? Who has been absent for a considerable time prior to the nightfall....? and after....?

And Driver really disgusts me....at least if they were going to wimp out and play pouty, they could have pit their vote on no one.

I am leaning Uh Oh and Gunslinger as scum bags right now.

Both of RB's top choices are dead and innocent.

I remember questioning rb's vote for dooms: he voted because he thought Doom has a "bad attitude"

I remember questioning rb's vote for Driver: he posted reasons why he could vote for several people but chose Driver who wasnt included in that post

I also questioning scoop's vote for Hn: he didnt include a reason and said later that he chose Hooked because "nothing was on him" and he wanted a reaction

I already said that I am pushy but looking for reads on people. I am not going to let votes slide by and I will question them if I think something is up.

And care to elaborate on how I was protecting the don? We know DD wasnt, so therefore that would have to make Driver the don if I were to go out on a limb and try to protect my "leader"...otherwise I dont know how that could happen.

well before you yelled at me for not understanding what you meant when you went to an earlier discussion so I can never really tell what posts you are referecing...

and anyways, it could be a mafia tactic but UhOh might have found other suspects and doesnt consider 3toes to be a strong one, but its odd that there was no mention of him...problem is I dont think going at it day one and voting for each other is a great mafia tactic to begin with but still a possibility...I am watching UhOh and 3toes seems more innocent to me...

OK. I've been thinking about this all day and I'm going out on a bit of a limb, but my best suspect right now is Z. I read through his posts and he seems to be doing a great job at hiding amongst the weeds. He keeps agreeing with me and no one ever trusts me. That should have set off alarm bells earlier. I've also never seen him be much of a miss-speller. To spell skim with a c twice in one post is weird. I'll be on and off tonight, but will be gone until sometime Sunday afternoon. For now, I vote to lynch ZSandmann. He seems to be doing what I would as the Don.

I vote to lynch Driver

next suspects:

Scoop
RB

Scoop looked to be protecting Driver last night, and your statment about the BH and then pointing out Drivers absents is to planned. I think you want ppl to think Driver is the BH, or atleast second guess themselves about voting for Driver. I dont think you would try to protect an ordinary mafia player like that, Driver IMO looks to be the don.

I think you need to rethink the Driver-Rb connection. Rb voted Driver late last night to tie it up...now why would comrades do that? Dont get me wrong, I have suspicions of rb but I dont agree with your thoughts here.

Only if Driver is guilty. the whole idea is based on scoop protecting driver by acting crazy and taking out DD.

i could see voting for LG, she put vote 4 on dd. And after Rb tied it up scoop came in to put the leading vote back on dd. Which seems once again like they were tryin to get DD lynched. Also the vote thing she did before she stopped postin is odd, but she will have to explain that when she gets back.

so:
Driver
Scoop
LG

Those 3 are my top ones for right now

Broadly I am still on Gunslinger and Lady G as mafia. As I said before Zsandman I have hunchy feelings about. I will go and have a think. I read Gunslingers post with a case against me in it and I think it was weak especially as it is still representing that I gave the fact of Judgemax going to UD and my belief of her as mafia as a reason for voting Hooked Newbie. Other than that except for my undoubted oddness I don't see anything in Gunslinger's post that is a strong point. I think it is a post with an agenda.

I retract my vote on driver
I vote to lynch LG

If driver post i will move back to them, if they UD and mafia then ill vote scoop next night.

Lg posted but glossed over her vote change. please explain what happend LG

/gameoff

Its alot harder then it looks, i dont see how you guys had whole freaking game based around alias. i even changed the color of the page so i can tell the difference.

/gameon

I retract my vote for driver

I vote to lynch lg

I vote to lynch Gunslinger Yes I know Gunslinger has a vote on me, no this is not an OMGUS vote I had Gunslinger as a suspect before ever the vote came on me. With votes this spread out let us see where the movement comes in. I would probably put a vote on Lady G without much hesitation. Zsandman is still hunchy for me.

Lol @ BKW/HI IQ

I don't really like the votes from IQ and Scoop on new additional suspects. That is not to say you haven't explained them, just that we are dividing ourselves too much. There is something to be said for watching how the votes shift but if you give too many choices it is easy for these changes to get lost in the crowd. I suspect there will be some consolidation in the next few hours. Scoop keep me hunchy, I'm hunchy of you as well but there are better suspects. What I am surprised about is that no one else has any comments on Uh-Oh.

Also surprised with IQ currently leading in votes that he didn't vote on someone with a vote already to tie it up. That makes me lean him more Innocent.

Z, I do see your point on UH-Oh and they are one I am wondering about myself. As I said earlier though, I am just really not thinking to straight right now and I just don't know at this time what I think.

RB stands out to me also, but he always does..

Scoop of coarse stands out too...but I feel they are doing it on purpose, just can't put my finger on the reason, as in for evil or good.

This sounds like you're setting up to move your vote. Rb seems to have a nack for forcing moves with his votes.

Are you not sure about Scoop any longer? IMO it seems like you dont want to be stuck on scoop when the votes start coming in.

Glad to see you are playing but I am wondering why you picked scoop if you didnt finish reading...even if you end up switching could you explain why you chose him in the first place?

And now scoop is in the lead...even though he is my top suspect I am more concerned with my vote now that Ogre is there, after not even being cuaght up, and rb, one of my top suspects, put him/her up front.

I retract my vote on scoop and vote to lynch bkw/HI IQ, or whatever his name is currently....

This was a curious change.

OMG, that was a terrible nightfall....

Well, guess I'll stick with HI IQ, so I vote to lynch Hi IQ/BKW

Doesn't matter....They were both on my list as suspects...Personally, I think the Bounty Hunter needs to hit himself tonight and give the Townies a fair chance in the game. Between him and three UDs and 2 mafia hits, we are down 7 townies in two nights....

Something I agree with rb about.

So the bountyhunter saved bkw and took gunslinger. I am going for Zsandman today because a) Hooked Newbie was hit and b) I have a different perspective to Zsandman on rbishops late vote switch off me and to bkw. I think Zsandman has played us really good and is mafia.

Not that I need to shout it from the rooftops but driver was innocent therefore I was not saving no Don on night one.

First. I retract my vote to lynch bkw.

After review, it seems that the evidence for rb being mafia is slightly more compelling than my impression of his post style. Both of his top two choices are innocent and he had that VERY curious vote change from scoop after they were a shoe in for the lynching.

Scoop is also tending to be very mafia. Scoops lists contain 66% innocents (the other being unknown).

At this point I'd have to say my top two choices are scoop and rb. I'll go out on a limb and lean innocent toward LadyG and Z (mainly because scoop thinks them both mafia).

Obviously, this method isn't perfect because a lot of the players voted for people who are still extant and we don't know their status yet.

I'll be happy voting for either scoop or rb.

For now, I vote to lynch rb.

 

[Rbishop]

Well, looks like another quiet day in ACville. Nice input Ogre, though I don't agree with some of your conclusions.

I often make last minute vote switches..always have, probably always will. Tell you what....I'll vote now and not switch at all, unless I am the only person on them at 10 minutes before nightfall.

I vote to lynch scoop...

 

[OgreMkV]

hmmm... so you and scoop aren't on the same team? It'll be interesting to see if you don't switch.

 

[ZSandmann]

So the bountyhunter saved bkw and took gunslinger. I am going for Zsandman today because a) Hooked Newbie was hit and b) I have a different perspective to Zsandman on rbishops late vote switch off me and to bkw. I think Zsandman has played us really good and is mafia.

Not that I need to shout it from the rooftops but driver was innocent therefore I was not saving no Don on night one.

So I see I have mentioned you and now you are coming after me. That seems to be the pattern this game, OMGUS rules. But I think you have shown yourself so I will not be deterred.

Current Votes:
Rb: bkw(468) Ogre(481)
Bkw: O3T(470) LG(476) Ogre(480)
Scoop: Rb(482)

As I said last night I have Scoop, Ogre, and Rb as my three possible Mafia. Rb is on Scoop, Ogre is on Rb, and Scoop has not voted but says they are going to vote for me. This troubles me because of the overlapping votes. I don't really understand the case for Bkw, the BH saved him, but the BH is a Townie so I don't see how it makes a difference. But Rb did clearly change his vote. At the same time I don't have a read on LG or O3T, those two I have been neglecting in my thoughts.

I vote to lynch Scoop.

It will be interesting to see if Rb moves his vote if things shift to Scoop. We have time on our side right now so let's discuss this.

 

[Rbishop]

I have kind of ignored Lady this game. Maybe the BH will take her out.

 

[Coler]

OK I vote to lynch Zsandman I don't expect to have a whole lot of time for the game today unfortunately. Zsandman is the man for me and that is pretty much final. Anyone who thinks I am mafia is not seeing straight I'm afraid go back to night one and ask yourself if that play was scummy, knowing now that both Driver and Dangerdoll were innocent.

Lady G is my other suspect. I'm afraid I have no more to offer at this stage.

 

[OgreMkV]

ummm... who are you Coler?

 

[Rbishop]

LMAO!!!!

 

[Rbishop]

..probably the one my vote is on and they are ignoring me....must make me mafia...

 

[[AC] Old3Toes]

thanks BH....but you suck

since the game would be over if there were more then 3.... there are 3 mafia

bkw, could there be 2 mafia? Is that possible? Is 2 between 1 and 5?

I do not think you are the BH. I think you are mafia.

I think since we are down to 7 players, we need to settle on two suspects. I think bkw should be on that list.

I also am not too sure if it matters who we vote for, most likely the BH will lynch whoever they want.