Mafia #33 - Bruce Campbell Vs. Army of Darkness

[Dangerdoll]

Uh, DD people were making vote changes, look at my post. It even tallies them.

I knew that by doing the vote switch, that discussion would evolve. Or at least hoped for it to.

I knew it might generate some vote changes, but not so isolated to two palyers.

What did I learn....without telling the specifics since that wouldn't be beneficial to the town, I feel more confident that Hooked and Lady are Innocents..for now.

I don't know what RB is this round but when he played the vigilante role and communicated with me, forcing a tie and watching how votes changed was one way we got information. And it did get some pple to move around but I am unconvinced that any of the movers are evil. And they moved around until the last minute, DD, so when did you think RB should have switched?

if I am, understanding correctly, plant, rb switched his vote leaving enough time for others to switch...he did it with the supposed agenda of starting conversation.... if he saw a tie coming around, knowing that it was not going to benefit the town, why keep his vote there when he had enough time to go back instead of relying on others? In trying to keep it as a tie, yes, this did not rid the town of an innocent but we also had a chance to lynch the EA. Yes, there was a small chance but there was a bigger chance than "no chance at all due to a tie".

 

[plantling]

Well since some have stated concerns about Jensons and BKW, and I myself have been uneasy about their quietness, I went and pulled their posts. They only has 4 posts each since the EAII role was given out. Jensons posts seem to have more content and BKW's posts just seems to concentrate on one or two players.

I don't even know what to say! Craziness, this is!!! I just thought that Cat was being Cat..... *sigh* I'm really glad that we didn't lynch a townie pr, though. That means that really we're ahead! Go town! If I were Z, I would pick someone who won't get caught for a few nights, at least.... my tops would be JL, Ogre and Chill.... Of course, it could be awfully fun to watch LG or DD juggle this for awhile!

lol, it's slower cuz we all had to go back to work! Every time I got online today, a student needed help with something, or my ohone rang, or there was a fight in my room over a F*ing iPod! (can you tell I need for it to be summer already?) Having pretty muhc caught up....

I think that Z has a sense of humor, so if he handpicked a player, I really see LG or DD as being fun, because you're both hilarious to banter with in the game.

If he picked for length, I'd go with rb or jl, more likely than not. RB because it's hard to read evil through cranky (sorry, Daddy-O, lol) and john because we're used to skimming and low posting from him.

I'm against the newbs, as it would be too much, I think, with the confusion of a night one win, although Chill is holding their own quite well.

Ogre is too easy a pick, as are judge, plant and hooked: who really wants this game to end again so quickly?

So, the question is, did Z go with fun, or with longevity in mind? Or are we all thinking about this way too much? Did he simply pick whoever Cat had chosen? I don't think Cat posted his choices (am I wrong) (not like that would have been much help, anyway, cuz he prolly wouldn't have posted his real choices) so I can only guess that he would have picked a solid player to help him get out of his mess. For this, I would peg chill, plant or hooked....

I have to decide which scenario I think is more likely. If Z picked, I'd vote rb. If it was cat, I'd vote chill.

Oh, ladyg, sweets, I'm not nearly as fun as you! Case in point, smell references? lmao, for sure! Stretching things a bit too far, I think. Trying to pin a newb for your evil ways, darling g?

Ok, I have to post and run. School just ended, I have to get to a retention meeting and then a retirement party. I haven't read much of today's posts, but I've been thinking alot about Z's decision to move on with the game. I think it is most likely that if he picked, and it was not random, then he went with Cat's choice. As I already said, I think that that would be Chill.... so, to not UD: I vote to lynch Chill.

ok half time......

ur kinda dead there aqua lol, but maybe since everyone is getting a second chance maybe Z will give you one too.

its day one all over again....

I vote to lynch RB

Go Spurs GO!!!

i think he woulda turned RB just to get him off his back....hence my vote for RB. Cat has a crazy sence of humor and i really see changing RB just to stick it to him.

Ogre are you voting for me cause of stuff that happen yesterday, if so that doesnt make any sense.

spurs are out the playoffs.......:headshake2:

I vote to lynch HN.

Lg i can see doing all that switching, but i believe HN to be a controlled player who wouldnt go through all that unless it was planned IMO( not sayin LG is out of control.....)

nice post RB. first look it seems Rb and Lg are on same team....but Rb is the one who made the fancy post to point out to everyone what happend.

I figure he is either tryin to frame LG, Make himself look good, or just really into digging stuff up this game.

I retract my vote for HN and vote to lynch RB...seems like to much effort form RB IMO.

I don't have time to comment on them now but I don't get a good feel about them.

 

[OgreMkV]

First, let me say that I have not read all the posts. I'm up to about 1040.

With that being said, I disagree with rb's tactics and conclusions. I believe he selling us a load of bull cookies.

I think rb is the EA and LadyG or hooked is the turn

The only other conclusion that makes sense is that rb is the det analog this round and got something useful during the night.

 

[plantling]

if I am, understanding correctly, plant, rb switched his vote leaving enough time for others to switch...he did it with the supposed agenda of starting conversation.... if he saw a tie coming around, knowing that it was not going to benefit the town, why keep his vote there when he had enough time to go back instead of relying on others? In trying to keep it as a tie, yes, this did not rid the town of an innocent but we also had a chance to lynch the EA. Yes, there was a small chance but there was a bigger chance than "no chance at all due to a tie".

DD, I'm not excusing RB from creating the tie. But I understand he wanted to generate information if pple switched their votes around. IMO, it was not solely his fualt that the night ended in a tie, though as he has stated he didn't believe enough that anyone of them was EA. And it appears the subsequent vote movers didn't believe enough in his being EA to leave their final votes on him.

 

[Dangerdoll]

I never said rb was to blame for the night ending in a tie.... could he have done something while having the plan to watch if people moved and for the discussion he was seeking and saw a tie was iminent, yes. Absolutely. He said himself he was trying to get a discussion going.... and it did, he flipped a vote and then the kaos got going. Since he was so on the line that close to nightfall, why not move his vote again to break that tie?

 

[plantling]

I never said rb was to blame for the night ending in a tie.... could he have done something while having the plan to watch if people moved and for the discussion he was seeking and saw a tie was iminent, yes. Absolutely. He said himself he was trying to get a discussion going.... and it did, he flipped a vote and then the kaos got going. Since he was so on the line that close to nightfall, why not move his vote again to break that tie?

Look at the timeline, DD. Votes were being switched until Nightfall was called.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

I don't know what RB is this round but when he played the vigilante role and communicated with me, forcing a tie and watching how votes changed was one way we got information. And it did get some pple to move around but I am unconvinced that any of the movers are evil. And they moved around until the last minute, DD, so when did you think RB should have switched?

The difference is that in this game a tie results in a no lynch instead of a coinflip. That limits the information or at the very least the people privvy to the information.

if I am, understanding correctly, plant, rb switched his vote leaving enough time for others to switch...he did it with the supposed agenda of starting conversation.... if he saw a tie coming around, knowing that it was not going to benefit the town, why keep his vote there when he had enough time to go back instead of relying on others? In trying to keep it as a tie, yes, this did not rid the town of an innocent but we also had a chance to lynch the EA. Yes, there was a small chance but there was a bigger chance than "no chance at all due to a tie".

He switched with 27 minutes left before night. I don't quite suspect him and that may be a mistake on my part, but let's be clear about the time frame that this "conversation" was supposed to take place within.

First, let me say that I have not read all the posts. I'm up to about 1040.

With that being said, I disagree with rb's tactics and conclusions. I believe he selling us a load of bull cookies.

I think rb is the EA and LadyG or hooked is the turn

The only other conclusion that makes sense is that rb is the det analog this round and got something useful during the night.

I agree with the bull cookies part. If you think I'm evil vote me. I'll gladly vote for Rb and could probably be persauded to go for LG. My number one is still Jensons though.

DD, I'm not excusing RB from creating the tie. But I understand he wanted to generate information if pple switched their votes around. IMO, it was not solely his fualt that the night ended in a tie, though as he has stated he didn't believe enough that anyone of them was EA. And it appears the subsequent vote movers didn't believe enough in his being EA to leave their final votes on him.

Again (3rd or 4th time I think). I think that the EA was locked in on one of the top 3 and is a relatively low poster. Insert Jensons, bkw, Ogre, DD, and yourself here. If I had anything to hide, I know I would've sat back and laughed my tail off. If you all need to lynch me before you accept that as a possibility, please Fing do so. If you lynch me, please just promise to take out Jensons when my role is revealed.

Every night we end in a tie we effectively lose one and apparently nobody remembers that the PRs retain their powers if turned. Last night could have cost us the game if the wrong (right for the EA) person was chosen.

 

[plantling]

Lady G 203
rbishop 173
Chill 97
Hooked Newbie 92
plantling 75
catfish69hunter 72
johnlarson66 60
dirtydawg10 54
judgemax 46
ZSandmann 37
pixl8r 31
OgreMkV 29
cap1384 24
Dangerdoll 23
Jensons 23
bkw1982 14
IceH2O 2
aquaparadise10 2

Alright, since we're talking about post counts. Though I think post content is also important.

 

[plantling]

I believe the EA is probably among the low posters. Cat posted too much and tripped himself up. Since the EA started off alone, they didn't want to make any waves. I think RB is making too many waves to be the EA. He could have been turned, but really ask yourself if you were the EA, would you pick him, seeing as others are so suspicious of him?

 

[johnlarson66]

I seriously believe their is more at work in all these vote swaps, than the single evil (at that time), trying to arrange things.

Okay RB, I will bite.

What is more at work? Power roles making moves? Third shooter in the grassy knoll?

What did you learn?

I know I did not learn anything, except for you knowling created a tie because you did not like any of the suspects. You share this with the town less than 30 minutes before nightfall.

RB, if you are not the EA, you are EA's biggest ally - even if not turned. You have not helped the town and I am 100% for lynching you.