Mafia #36 Vampires

[Chill]

I retract my vote to stake Chill and vote to stake BKW.

You're the one playing us for fools. I do believe Chill is a vamp, but I don't believe he was turned last night and he's not likely the lead vamp. With the count right now, that's who has to be staked. Why are you satisfied in taking the easy route and losing the game? Oh, wait would it be a win for you? I think your post count has more than doubled in the last 14 hours. Very good timing.

Okay Hooked voting for Ogre so he's probbaly innocent or possibly the evil priest and hooked is distancing so we won't lynch ogre.

I think the priest is the key. With 5 vs 5 and the priest they're almost guaranteed a win. They are assured at least a tie and they can protect the vamp.

My dilemma is I know Hooked is a vamp but he is not the lead vamp as he showed evil on night 2 and he is not the priest as the priest cannot protect himself.

 

[Chill]

sorry that should read

Okay Hooked voting for BKW so he's probbaly innocent or possibly the evil priest and hooked is distancing so we won't lynch BKW.

I think the priest is the key. With 5 vs 5 and the priest they're almost guaranteed a win. They are assured at least a tie and they can protect the vamp.

My dilemma is I know Hooked is a vamp but he is not the lead vamp as he showed evil on night 2 and he is not the priest as the priest cannot protect himself.

 

[Chill]

if you agree with me why not vote for almost a garunteed vamp chill?
the way the events played out ,I'm almost 98% sure that Chill is vamp, if not then the vamps played me for a fool. If anyone has any better odds ill change my vote.

Because even if I was the turn I am not the Priest, so if I get staked and I am innocent the vamps win, if I get staked and I'm guilty the priest protects me and the second up gets staked and the vamps win. There is no win in staking me. You have to keep in mind the sides are dead even in numbers.

oh and with the turned priest the vamps played everyone for a fool last night, we have to be careful not to let them do it two nights in a row.

 

[OgreMkV]

Now convinced that Dawg is a vamp.

Well the more I think about it the more I see that a vote for HN is a wasted vote. With the numbers supposedly even for innocents vs. vamps we need to find the LV. There is no way that HN could be the LV. If Chill is telling the truth HN wouldn't have shown up as evil on nights 1 & 2 if he is the LV. If HN is telling the truth he is a PR. So HN is either a PR or a lesser vamp and a vote here is wasting a vote and maybe even hurting the town if he is a PR.

This is so anti-town. Any vamp must be gotten rid of.

This post has been bugging me ever since nightfall...Here is Ogre pleading with me to vote out Fire (a known innocent)

Except for the fact that, at the time, everyone who wasn't a vamp felt her to be a vamp.

Here is Ogre getting upset with HN for moving to fire, who is the person Ogre is pushing hard to get out of the game.

Because Hooked is a 'known' vamp. Any associations like that are hard to overcome when you're innocent.

This is Ogre switching votes to HN after no one will follow him onto Fire (except HN).

Sure, I did that. Would you like to know why.

CAUSE I'M THE FREAKING HUNTER!!!!

I was going to hit hooked when everyone voted for Fire. Instead everyone switched to hooked, so I switched my hit to Fire, which turned out to be moot anyway.

Here is Ogre trying to keep the focus on Fire after DD switches her vote...even though Ogre has already switched his vote to HN.

Yeah, because, AT THE TIME, everyone thought she was evil. I said we had to know about her and now we do.

Right now this is the only thing I could find. Since I think a vote for Chill or HN is a wasted vote and I think Ogre was pushing a little too hard to lynch an innocent...I vote to stake Ogre

If the town doesn't agree I am willing to change my vote. Let me know what you guys think.

The town won't agree with any vampire.

OK, as far as I'm concerned Dawg and Hooked are known vamps. Since it appears that the priest is evil, then we have to assume that chill was turned last night.

So that makes Dawg, Hooked, and Chill known vamps. I'll happily change my vote to any of the three... provided everyone agrees to them. Anyone who doesn't vote for one of these three is vampire, IMO.

I retract my vote from Ice and vote to lynch Dawg.

 

[dirtydawg10]

Well Ogre, I don't follow your logic. How is not voting for HN anti-town? We can't win unless we take out the LV and stop the turn/hit. If we take out the lesser vamps we still lose. It is as simple as that. Thanks for coming out. I'm not sure if I totally believe you though. You may also be the turned hunter.

Thanks for the OMGUS vote...I feel better now voting for you...for now I'll keep my vote where it is.

 

[dirtydawg10]

*&($^@( )#%)@& #%&)(_(@ _@Q#*_ it!!!

Now we don't know jack... again.

How is Hooked now all of the sudden a known vamp in your eyes? You are on Chill's side now definitely?

 

[OgreMkV]

I was on chilled's side until last night. He (I'm almost sure) was the turn.

Why should we not search for the LV. Because as long as we kill vamps, we keep even with them. hunting for the LV and not finding him/her means that the game is over tonight.

It probably is anyway. The game was severely stacked against us, but I'm trying.

Dawg, do you believe that hooked or chill is a vamp?

 

[Chill]

This is pretty much a lost cause and I have work to do so here's my parting thoughts

Here's what I know:

Hooked lesser vamp
RB vamp (proably the lead vamp - the lead part I'm guessing about, but I think he was giving Hooked orders on Night 1 and that's why Hooked posted all the RB-like vote changes)

Here's what I think:
BKW probably innocent based on Hooked going after him
Ogre probably a vamp - not sure how he knows everyone on Fire wasn't a vamp, don't believe the hunter comment it doesn't make sense to me
Dawg - don't know for sure but if Ogre's a vamp than I'm pretty sure Dawg is innocent
Ice - not sure but his vote on RB makes me think innocent, I waived back and forth on Ice, I had his name typed in to investigate last night but decided to play the RB hunch instead
J-Innocent
Chill persona non grata but innocent none the less

that leaves Sploke and DD who I don't really have a read on, but if my above thoughts are correct then by process of elimination they are probably vamps.

 

[dirtydawg10]

I was on chilled's side until last night. He (I'm almost sure) was the turn.

Why should we not search for the LV. Because as long as we kill vamps, we keep even with them. hunting for the LV and not finding him/her means that the game is over tonight.

It probably is anyway. The game was severely stacked against us, but I'm trying.

Dawg, do you believe that hooked or chill is a vamp?

The other reason I am leery about voting for Chill or HN is because Chill has outright said he is the Seer and HN has come out calling Chill a liar and alluding to the fact that he is the seer. So no I can't say I am definitely on one side or the other...which is why I was wondering why you stated that HN was a "known" evil. I don't want to lynch the seer because they are our only chance. Except we can't trust either one of them. :wall:

I can say I believed Chill last night which is why I switched my vote. But the protection of HN by the priest makes me wonder now.

You say you were on Chill's side last night but IMO you weren't. You were trying to avoid moving to HN which is what Chill was telling us to do. You only moved once most or all of the others had already moved.

 

[dirtydawg10]

This is pretty much a lost cause and I have work to do so here's my parting thoughts

Here's what I know:

Hooked lesser vamp
RB vamp (proably the lead vamp - the lead part I'm guessing about, but I think he was giving Hooked orders on Night 1 and that's why Hooked posted all the RB-like vote changes)

Here's what I think:
BKW probably innocent based on Hooked going after him
Ogre probably a vamp - not sure how he knows everyone on Fire wasn't a vamp, don't believe the hunter comment it doesn't make sense to me
Dawg - don't know for sure but if Ogre's a vamp than I'm pretty sure Dawg is innocent
Ice - not sure but his vote on RB makes me think innocent, I waived back and forth on Ice, I had his name typed in to investigate last night but decided to play the RB hunch instead
J-Innocent
Chill persona non grata but innocent none the less

that leaves Sploke and DD who I don't really have a read on, but if my above thoughts are correct then by process of elimination they are probably vamps.

Are you saying you investigated RB last night?