Mafia 38 "the revenge"

Well, I guess kudos to those who voted Rb. I still don't see why but I am glad one mafia is down. I have a nasty habit of attacking trains night 1 and it usually results in me being looked at. I'm used to it...

Dangerdoll said:
cool!! a nite one Mafia and the Don! Nice!!

sorry to see you go, Dawg

now to answer your posts, pappy.... I bolded what I am commenting on...


what is there to explain... his attitude has shifted from being the hard guy, busting chops to a lesser being. He wasn't posting his usual self. What is so hard to see?

Contradicting myself, how would that be?the first part of that sentence talks about rb's past games, the friendliness of this game, you know... the thing I was saying changed... was unsettling.

I believe adding my vote to rb DID put him in the lead.... did you not see that or is it you, pap, that is trying to take the heat off the big guy?
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It's easy for you to say now because you were "right". What if Rb was the doc? What if he was laying low because he was the det? People don't always back off because they are mafia DD.

You said Rb changed his style this game but then you said he has done this the past few games...contradicting. But then you said his friendliness is "unnerving" which is the fluff. I haven't played for a while I mostly remember Rb not getting into the game much until after the first few nights.

DD you do remember that there are two mafia teams right? Just because you got lucky and heloed lynch your opposing team when you thought you were railroading an innocent doesn't make you any less suspicious in my eyes...
 
ZSandmann said:
Narwhal: JP(35) Dawg(64) Ogre(136)
Z: HN(38) Z(66)
NJ: Ogre(39) Z(114) RB(116)
Dawg: Narwhal(65)
BKW: Chill(70) Ogre(98) Dawg(127) HN(148)
RB: BKW(99) NJ(110) DD (113) Chill(168)
DD: JP(119)

No vote from Pixl8r.

Now I'd like to be able to clear folks just based on votes, but with two Mafia teams that is impossible. However, I think it would be safe to say that BKW (First vote RB), NJ (2nd vote RB/RB's Votee), and myself (Followed on my heals to vote NJ) are not on the New School team. I might even add Chill to this list as his move from BKW was what broke the tie and sealed it for RB. I will conceed the case for my Innocence is the weakest of these explanations, but yoiu will have to choose to believe or disbelieve me.

Possible New School Mafia: (No particular order)
Hooked
JPappy
DD
Pixl
Narwhal

Of course there is no solid evidence to make likewise lists of Innocent/Old School. Can anyone add insight which might futher refine this list. Also, feel free to rebuff any I have excluded.
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Why couldn't people like you, Ogre, or chill be on that list? I understand me... but why did Hooked, Narwhal and Pix get added specifically?
 
Narwhal: JP(35) Dawg(64) Ogre(136)
Z: HN(38) Z(66)
NJ: Ogre(39) Z(114) RB(116)
Dawg: Narwhal(65)
BKW: Chill(70) Ogre(98) Dawg(127) HN(148)
RB: BKW(99) NJ(110) DD (113) Chill(168)
DD: JP(119)

Ok, this may ramble a bit but here are my thoughts. I kinda agree with you Z, but I don't like completely clearing everyone that voted for Rb in this format. For you to lean that way makes me a bit leery of yoou, but I'm glad you're actively participating now.

Unless I missed something, we are looking for 1 Don and 2 henchmen and have 8 innocents. Unfortunately, the Det can only hope to find the 2 henchmen until tomorrow night.

Narwhal: Quite disjointed posts / actions. A definite mafia candidate IMO.

Z: I want to trust you, but don't. You are always very good at being subtle.

NJ: I would have agreed with you being innocent, but you were too quick to "point it out" to everyone based on your vote for Rb. I still think you are, but not fully convinced.

Dawg: Another mafia possibility for me. It looked like he was slinging alot last night in all directions hoping something would stick.

BKW: I really want to se more from him. His first quality post was within an hour of nightfall. I just don't have much read.

Rb: Ding dong, a Don is dead!

DD: Not real sure. I never am about her.

Jpap: Seems to be playing like he does when innocent.

Ogre: Flipside of Z... I really want to suspect him, but don't.

Chill: Not real sure. I need to review his posts again.

Pix: I'd be more suspicious, but based on his issues and recent games I expect that he will UD.

Me: Decide for yourselves, I'm not going to try to tell anyone.

SO my top 2 right now are Narwhal and Dawg.

I think the other one is either Z, DD, BKW, or Chill.
 
Hooked Newbie said:
Narwhal: JP(35) Dawg(64) Ogre(136)
Z: HN(38) Z(66)
NJ: Ogre(39) Z(114) RB(116)
Dawg: Narwhal(65)
BKW: Chill(70) Ogre(98) Dawg(127) HN(148)
RB: BKW(99) NJ(110) DD (113) Chill(168)
DD: JP(119)

Ok, this may ramble a bit but here are my thoughts. I kinda agree with you Z, but I don't like completely clearing everyone that voted for Rb in this format. For you to lean that way makes me a bit leery of yoou, but I'm glad you're actively participating now.

Unless I missed something, we are looking for 1 Don and 2 henchmen and have 8 innocents. Unfortunately, the Det can only hope to find the 2 henchmen until tomorrow night.

Narwhal: Quite disjointed posts / actions. A definite mafia candidate IMO.

Z: I want to trust you, but don't. You are always very good at being subtle.

NJ: I would have agreed with you being innocent, but you were too quick to "point it out" to everyone based on your vote for Rb. I still think you are, but not fully convinced.

Dawg: Another mafia possibility for me. It looked like he was slinging alot last night in all directions hoping something would stick.

BKW: I really want to se more from him. His first quality post was within an hour of nightfall. I just don't have much read.

Rb: Ding dong, a Don is dead!

DD: Not real sure. I never am about her.

Jpap: Seems to be playing like he does when innocent.

Ogre: Flipside of Z... I really want to suspect him, but don't.

Chill: Not real sure. I need to review his posts again.

Pix: I'd be more suspicious, but based on his issues and recent games I expect that he will UD.

Me: Decide for yourselves, I'm not going to try to tell anyone.

SO my top 2 right now are Narwhal and Dawg.

I think the other one is either Z, DD, BKW, or Chill.
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Well people would like me to post more with better information well here is the best I can offer right now.

First off no one is clear of anything just for voting RB. There are 2 different mafia teams that don't know each other. All are still evil until proven innocent in my book.

second hooked this really got my attention looking your way now. I mean really I know how long last nights nightfall was and how ooo SO many posts there were. For you to miss the fact that Dawg was the hit and died but yet he is still on your radar for possable mafia this is not like you.

So until farther notice and someone better to vote for.

I vote to lynch Hooked Newbie.
 
I could see DD or Chill reading the handwriting on the wall and adding their vote to RB. So, yes, I think RBs henchman may have voted for him and if so, then it's either chill or DD.

I could really see RB picking DD as a henchman... henchwoman... thug. Anyway, she's quiet and subtle. Chill is too.


Hooked's thing on Dawg... I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that. He just pulled an Ogre and no big deal. My thing is, why jump on him for it narwal? It's not something that a mafia would do.

So my top three list for now is narwal, DD, chill. Not neccesarily in that order.

I'll have to vote soon as I'm making a run to Houston and may not be back for nighfall.
 
[AC] narwhal;1532658 said:
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Well people would like me to post more with better information well here is the best I can offer right now.

First off no one is clear of anything just for voting RB. There are 2 different mafia teams that don't know each other. All are still evil until proven innocent in my book.

second hooked this really got my attention looking your way now. I mean really I know how long last nights nightfall was and how ooo SO many posts there were. For you to miss the fact that Dawg was the hit and died but yet he is still on your radar for possable mafia this is not like you.

So until farther notice and someone better to vote for.

I vote to lynch Hooked Newbie.
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LOL... yep, I made a mistake sorry. I was going by memory and flaked. My bad. If that's deserving of lynching in your eyes, go for it. I would have voted for you if you'd done that too so I can understand.
 
Hmm I rather guessed I would be taking a nap this morning. *lol* Anyway, here I'm off to ramble just a bit, if I may.

I have to say the majority of the reason I voted for RB was because he ruffled my feathers a bit. It was weird to me that he was both jovial... (posts were a bit relaxed with a tinge of excitement, (which I base me in his head) on how he posted a bit more than typical. Anyway, it's just how I feel when I get named mafia. The anticipation, the excitement, the "how am I going to write this story" kind of feeling.) Could I be wrong? HA totally. Who can get in RB's head anyhow. That's how I saw it *shrug*.


AND at the same time (if I may say) he was annoyingly sarcastic (to me anyway.) :D But really, we got lucky. I'll stop being a crybaby now about his comment. RB's a great guy, probably has more games under his belt than any of us. Probably expected I'd get all huffy about it (which I did *lol*), and probably had some great strategy going into day one, and usually one can bet that people wouldn't risk associating with me and agreeing a vote. (Usually anyway.)

The funny thing is no one else seems to disagree with his statement! :O *lol*

I have a ton of homework to do on certain people. The game so far is great, (although it's sad we're losing our Mod for personal reasons <3) and now we've got some intelligent, thought provoking things to read.

It's so funny to me... one or two posts seriously - I feel like it's exactly what I would have written, in the games where I'm casted mafia. And you hit the damage control when you lose one, 'what to do now...' I swear I would have written exactly Z's post following the NEWS.

But then, he comes and delivers a fantastic logic based post, lists thought out - like he's in my head and knows exactly what I would expect to see from someone innocent. I'm very mixed up about him right now.

Over thinking?
Probably.

Rambling?
[/i]Absolutely.[/i]
 
I will give Hn the benefit of the doubt as well. I doubt the mafia would forget who they or even the other team hit. I keep forgetting Dawg is gone too mainly because the night post was so quick from Lg.

Though narwhal seemed eager to jump on Hn solely because of that post. Suspicious in my mind.

I still have DD on the short list and chill as well. He seemed eager to point the finger at me and I am not at all convinced that he even thought Rb was suspicious just based on the late move last night with nothing to prove Rb's guilt. I think he was just riding the train.

I am wondering why Z put some names up on his new school list but never mentioned why they could be there or why others weren't...makes me think someone is just trying to put names out and hoping for a bite.
 
jpappy789 said:
Well, I guess kudos to those who voted Rb. I still don't see why but I am glad one mafia is down. I have a nasty habit of attacking trains night 1 and it usually results in me being looked at. I'm used to it...

It's easy for you to say now because you were "right". What if Rb was the doc? What if he was laying low because he was the det? People don't always back off because they are mafia DD.

You said Rb changed his style this game but then you said he has done this the past few games...contradicting. But then you said his friendliness is "unnerving" which is the fluff. I haven't played for a while I mostly remember Rb not getting into the game much until after the first few nights.

DD you do remember that there are two mafia teams right? Just because you got lucky and heloed lynch your opposing team when you thought you were railroading an innocent doesn't make you any less suspicious in my eyes...
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I was not asking you to consider me innocent because I had voted mafia, I was merely explaining myself to your questions. It just so happened to have happened during night.
You still cannot undertand my reasons yet, rb was mafia.... now I am still wrong because rb may have been the doctor? Yes, there are 2 mafia teams and the game is all about chance, pappy... being a vet, you should know that. Tjis isn't the first game where there has been 2 teams though and you need to realize, not everyone is working out of your notebook. I vote how I see firt, just as I expect you to. I voted for who I thought most changed their game play from what I remember. I voted rb and he was mafia... how very evil of me :confused: I don't get it.

let me see if I can explain this again...
You said Rb changed his style this game but then you said he has done this the past few games...contradicting.
how is this contradicting?? I said his style had changed... meaning his friendlieness and playful banter had been close to zero this game, very high previous games He has done short posts with no real content in past games. Not contradicting, just 2 pieces of different thoughts...

as far as who I am considering may be mafia...

pappy for one, yes... seems like OMGUS but why in the world are you do hard nosed trying to train people to me???

Z... guess what, Z seems a little off to me this game and I have suspicions that he is mafia... plain as that.... if Z turns up mafia, I wonder if Pappy will again use this against me.

Ogre... has a nice twist and seeming confidence to try to get people to thinking his way.... nice try but not falling for it.

These are those who I suspect atm
 
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