I will post my new vote in bold in due course. Ask Ice for a check on whether I have validly retracted if you want.
lucky, how can you assume that from reading that meal didn't wish to present a case against me (DD) means anything.... when you are unwilling to accept that mael was stating he was using a random shot in post 152??Sure jbradt: As I said in my voting post, I found it odd that mael said that he didn't wish to present a case against DD. That means that he either doesn't want people to see his reasoning, or he has no reasoning but isn't brave enough to admit it. Either way, he is holding back something from ACville, and therefore does not have the intentions of tying to help the innocents which means that he has to be mafia.
And when you retract a vote, don't you need to say who your new vote is for?
[AC] Gunslinger If they wern't an alias which tends to mean someone who played a bit before I'd say leaning innocent. I am still saying leaning innocent though.
but when it was clear, what was the issue... I think the answer was given... you don't?
communicating mafia or innocent teams regardless, I dont think they should be in the AC Chat area discussing the game.... Communicators can discuss in an chat room outside of AC or in email, PM whatever they have.... why use AC chat.... silly move.
[AC] Gunslinger;1812736 said:From Mael's list...
I'm concerned why me using an alias has such a large impact on how you view my innocence/guilt. You also say that if I wasn't using an alias I would be leaning innocent towards you...but you say that I still am...you are contradicting yourself...odd and a little bit scummy...
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lucky, how can you assume that from reading that meal didn't wish to present a case against me (DD) means anything.... when you are unwilling to accept that mael was stating he was using a random shot in post 152??
but when it was clear, what was the issue... I think the answer was given... you don't?
communicating mafia or innocent teams regardless, I dont think they should be in the AC Chat area discussing the game.... Communicators can discuss in an chat room outside of AC or in email, PM whatever they have.... why use AC chat.... silly move.
You said if I wasn't using an alias I would be leaning innocent. Therefore, since I am, wouldn't that make me leaning mafia to you. But you said I was still leaning innocent. Contradictory to me...[AC] maelstrom;1812743 said:The reason I said that was that I don't know why an innocent player with any experience would make such a big deal out of the first vote in the game. You are using an alias so therefore I am saying probably have experience.
I will clarify though if you were not using an alias but were playing like this and were an experienced player I would be wondering why as well.
If you were not using an alias and were a new type player I would be just thinking you were over-reacting and playing badly.
What I will say is that I did not contradict myself and you saying I did does not help me to conclude that you are innocent especially when you put scumtag on there too.
[AC] Gunslinger;1812577 said:Sorry, I forgot to ask...Ogre, who is this player?
[AC] maelstrom;1812649 said:That is fair enough John it was part of the general chat of the game. See what Ogre says maybe he won't agree.
To be perfectly honest, quiet backround stalkers scare me more, because in my opinion mafia would not want to draw attention to themselves.
I am very curious of what Orge will say, I think his vague comment is worthless and it bothers me. Trying to guess who the alias are does not help the town discover evil. It is a big distraction. I am sure players thaat are playing with an alias are also changing their style a little.
Your defense of Orge has me concerned. If I would change I would change to you.
[AC] Gunslinger;1812661 said:Why do you feel like you are laughing you *** off in chat with another mafia member right now because you think your little antics are funny but no one is willing to vote you...well, I'll do it.
I vote to lynch maelstrom
I think I have already made the reason pretty obvious.
Um, what?
[AC] Gunslinger;1812696 said:DD, I just don't understand why mael has avoided flat out saying if the vote was random or not. Which is why I keep asking. Every post is a little bit more but he/she has yet to say exactly why...I'm done with it now as they've admitted that they aren't going to give anyone an answer (which is a very anti-town thing to do IMO).
Um, the communicating mafia and innocent teams perhaps?
I never put words into your mouth Ogre. If you can see, I worded what you bolded in the form of a question, as in I was asking YOU what you thought...I suppose "GunslingerZ" means that you think I am Zsand...comical.