Mafia 46: In the Dark

I will post my new vote in bold in due course. Ask Ice for a check on whether I have validly retracted if you want.
 
Sure jbradt: As I said in my voting post, I found it odd that mael said that he didn't wish to present a case against DD. That means that he either doesn't want people to see his reasoning, or he has no reasoning but isn't brave enough to admit it. Either way, he is holding back something from ACville, and therefore does not have the intentions of tying to help the innocents which means that he has to be mafia.

And when you retract a vote, don't you need to say who your new vote is for?
lucky, how can you assume that from reading that meal didn't wish to present a case against me (DD) means anything.... when you are unwilling to accept that mael was stating he was using a random shot in post 152??
 
From Mael's list...

[AC] Gunslinger If they wern't an alias which tends to mean someone who played a bit before I'd say leaning innocent. I am still saying leaning innocent though.

I'm concerned why me using an alias has such a large impact on how you view my innocence/guilt. You also say that if I wasn't using an alias I would be leaning innocent towards you...but you say that I still am...you are contradicting yourself...odd and a little bit scummy...

but when it was clear, what was the issue... I think the answer was given... you don't?

communicating mafia or innocent teams regardless, I dont think they should be in the AC Chat area discussing the game.... Communicators can discuss in an chat room outside of AC or in email, PM whatever they have.... why use AC chat.... silly move.

"chat" doesn't always equal AC chat DD, I meant it as a blanket term for PM, AIM, MSN messaging, forums, etc...I am intrigued at how you automatically assumed I was talking about AC chat...
 
Wow take the wife out for dinner and you come back to a novel.


Jarred you thought we had a lot of post before. Hehe. have a cup of coffee ready to read all this.

A lot of lively discussion. I tend to think that mael's was a random vote, which he will never admit now.

Lucky, Mael and Gunslinger seem to be having a good time stirring things up. I wonder about where they are aligned.

I also worry about those who have not spoke at all. We have another day for that to change so I wont put much on that yet.

Right now gunslinger would be top on my list. He is going out of his way to push others as candidates. I don't feel an early random vote is that important.
 
I automatically assumed this Gun because when "chat" is mentioned on AC.... that's the first place I think of.

However, I will say, rereading over your post... I was wrong in my original thought in the meaning of your post.
 
[AC] Gunslinger;1812736 said:
From Mael's list...



I'm concerned why me using an alias has such a large impact on how you view my innocence/guilt. You also say that if I wasn't using an alias I would be leaning innocent towards you...but you say that I still am...you are contradicting yourself...odd and a little bit scummy...

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The reason I said that was that I don't know why an innocent player with any experience would make such a big deal out of the first vote in the game. You are using an alias so therefore I am saying probably have experience.

I will clarify though if you were not using an alias but were playing like this and were an experienced player I would be wondering why as well.

If you were not using an alias and were a new type player I would be just thinking you were over-reacting and playing badly.

What I will say is that I did not contradict myself and you saying I did does not help me to conclude that you are innocent especially when you put scumtag on there too.
 
lucky, how can you assume that from reading that meal didn't wish to present a case against me (DD) means anything.... when you are unwilling to accept that mael was stating he was using a random shot in post 152??

Because he said that! "he didn't want to present a case against you, but thanks to everyone for making the game interesting"
 
but when it was clear, what was the issue... I think the answer was given... you don't?

communicating mafia or innocent teams regardless, I dont think they should be in the AC Chat area discussing the game.... Communicators can discuss in an chat room outside of AC or in email, PM whatever they have.... why use AC chat.... silly move.

[AC] maelstrom;1812743 said:
The reason I said that was that I don't know why an innocent player with any experience would make such a big deal out of the first vote in the game. You are using an alias so therefore I am saying probably have experience.

I will clarify though if you were not using an alias but were playing like this and were an experienced player I would be wondering why as well.

If you were not using an alias and were a new type player I would be just thinking you were over-reacting and playing badly.

What I will say is that I did not contradict myself and you saying I did does not help me to conclude that you are innocent especially when you put scumtag on there too.
You said if I wasn't using an alias I would be leaning innocent. Therefore, since I am, wouldn't that make me leaning mafia to you. But you said I was still leaning innocent. Contradictory to me...

I will admit that I am surprised you haven't tried to go against me yet. I am sure Ogre would back you up...:lipssealedsmilie:
 
Sorry, DD's post was still quoted from the last post...ignore it.
 
[AC] Gunslinger;1812577 said:
Sorry, I forgot to ask...Ogre, who is this player?

There's a loaded question. Do you mean, who do I think the real name is, who do I think I know who is playing under an alias or who I'm voting for?

[AC] maelstrom;1812649 said:
That is fair enough John it was part of the general chat of the game. See what Ogre says maybe he won't agree.

I forgot what this quote was for... sigh.

To be perfectly honest, quiet backround stalkers scare me more, because in my opinion mafia would not want to draw attention to themselves.

THANK YOU. This is what I've been saying all day, but does anyone listen... noooooooooooo.

I am very curious of what Orge will say, I think his vague comment is worthless and it bothers me. Trying to guess who the alias are does not help the town discover evil. It is a big distraction. I am sure players thaat are playing with an alias are also changing their style a little.

Your defense of Orge has me concerned. If I would change I would change to you.

Yes, it was somewhat vague because I wanted to see who jumped which way. I only got a partial darn it... that's OK. My vote hasn't changed.

The guessing the alias WASN'T THE PURPOSE OF THE POST. One, it's warning. Two, it was a feeler to see who jumped where. Three, you're right it doesn't really matter... unless I'm right about two things... who it is and how they are playing.

[AC] Gunslinger;1812661 said:
Why do you feel like you are laughing you *** off in chat with another mafia member right now because you think your little antics are funny but no one is willing to vote you...well, I'll do it.

I vote to lynch maelstrom

I think I have already made the reason pretty obvious.

Um, what?

Really? How obvious were you?

I agree someone is laughing there rump off in a chat room somewhere, but Maelstrom is about dead last on who that would be. Because, unlike DD's comment, I do think that the mafia wouldn't try something like that. There's no way it has any value for them. If they try it and no one comments on it (like I did), then they stand a really good chance of getting lynched and cutting their strength in half. If they try it and it works, then who's going to get looked at first when the target turns up innocent.

[AC] Gunslinger;1812696 said:
DD, I just don't understand why mael has avoided flat out saying if the vote was random or not. Which is why I keep asking. Every post is a little bit more but he/she has yet to say exactly why...I'm done with it now as they've admitted that they aren't going to give anyone an answer (which is a very anti-town thing to do IMO).

Um, the communicating mafia and innocent teams perhaps?

I never put words into your mouth Ogre. If you can see, I worded what you bolded in the form of a question, as in I was asking YOU what you thought...I suppose "GunslingerZ" means that you think I am Zsand...comical.

You said "So you're trying to say Maelstrom's vote made sense to you?" No I never even implied that Gunslinger and you know it. You're just firing rounds into the air seeing what happens. Like I said, if Ice wasn't the ref, I'd put every dime I own on you for being Ice.

My vote is for...

I vote to lynch noodles This may change (I am allowed.)

Reasons, as far as I am concerned, she epitomizes the scenario I put forth. Some quite and not very useful posts about inane and obvious things. I think that she's mafia for now.
 
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