Mafia 46: In the Dark

OK...I'll give you the fact you didn't specifically say I didn't answer your question but this is what you did say...
[AC] C-note;1812424 said:
Saying that something smells like someone starting a train shows that you've got fairly strong feelings about maelstrom possibly being mafia...heck, you even lean DD innocent. For some reason, though, you don't really ever mention your thoughts on maelstrom.



In this post, you kind of express mild agreement with maelstrom that DD always seems guilty, but go onto say that maelstrom's vote kind of inspires you to move DD up a notch toward innocent. You never come right out and call maelstrom's move scummy, though, but apparently you really think it is.

In this game, the main idea is to lynch your best suspects so it seems odd that you'd take the time to lean DD innocent in your post, but not try to go after maelstrom at all. This looks like a possible attempt to blend; cuddling up to DD while not really pointing that strong of a finger at maelstrom...leaving it for others to lead that charge.



Now here's a follow-up post explaining how early votes are good for getting people talking, and hoping something good comes from maelstrom's early vote. You still don't look to be taking much of a stand on maelstrom here. Odd since you find mael's actions scummy enough to move DD up on the innocent scale.

Makes me move you down a little toward mafia, Dawg.


Again here's my post calling his move scummy
I think that by voting without stating reasons is scummy...yes. Because the idea of the game is to get ideas out there so we can help the town figure out who the evils are. It seems to me like someone starting a train.



Good point Ogre. I actually see it the other way due to no reasoning behind it. If I had only one retraction my vote would be based on some sort of reasoning. I know it is day one and it may not be sustantial but there must be something to cause the vote.

No one said it cleared DD or made her innocent. I said the vote has DD leaning more innocent for me.

The only reason I haven't voted for mael yet is because I'm still thinking about what Ogre said and trying to figure out why mael would make the move he made. Trying to weigh in my mind whether he is or isn't scum...obviously I have mael on the scummy side of the fence right now.

Thanks for the vote btw.
 
[AC] C-note;1812868 said:
How can you say that you haven't been quiet, Dawg? Prior to you leaning DD innocent based on mael's vote, here's all of your posts. Nothing helpful. Just general observations. Not questioning anyone. Not trying to stir anything. Looks like you're just working on a post count to me.

Granted you're not the only one doing it, but coupled with your possible blending, it really makes me like you for scum.

I didn't post between 3pm and 9pm...wow!! 6 whole hours. You're right I guess I am quiet...lmao!
 
OK...I'll give you the fact you didn't specifically say I didn't answer your question but this is what you did say...



Again here's my post calling his move scummy


The only reason I haven't voted for mael yet is because I'm still thinking about what Ogre said and trying to figure out why mael would make the move he made. Trying to weigh in my mind whether he is or isn't scum...obviously I have mael on the scummy side of the fence right now.

Thanks for the vote btw.

Prior to me questioning you, you NEVER said maelstrom was scummy. I had to pull it out of you. As I said, you answered my question...prior to that you never said a peep about maelstrom being scummy, even though you thought that he was started a train.

With regard to being quiet, posting only social comments and general observations makes one seem quiet in this game.
 
****, c-note has it out for you dirty dawg. Thats why I said earlier about my suspicion between mael and c-note.
 
[AC] C-note;1812891 said:
Prior to me questioning you, you NEVER said maelstrom was scummy. I had to pull it out of you. As I said, you answered my question...prior to that you never said a peep about maelstrom being scummy, even though you thought that he was started a train.

With regard to being quiet, posting only social comments and general observations makes one seem quiet in this game.

I didn't say those things about Mael so people would believe I thought he was innocent. I thought that was pretty obvious.

Actually Mael was saying I got quiet after he voted for DD not before...

[AC] maelstrom;1812694 said:
Dirtydawg is somebody I am interested in for going quiet after a inconsistent coupleof comments following me voting for Dangerdoll and for being active in the game prior to going quiet. Also I think he ignored a direct question put to him as well.

You 2 should really get your stories straight before you try to interrogate someone.
 
[AC] maelstrom;1811871 said:
Well I have very little to go but I am not worried about that it is only the first day. I think the mafia are doing very well really but for now I vote to lynch Dangerdoll.
Ok, i know this was talked and talked about but why???
Unless Maelstrom is playing a really aggressive, strong mafia, then IMO, they are most likely innocent. There is almsot no way that a mafia would pull something that painfully obvious on day one. There's no need, there's no reason, and it's not LadyG, so we can rule out nuts.

However, that doesn't automatically clear DD though. I have no reason to say she is mafia, but a vote against her sure as heck doesn't make her innocent.
*ehem* excuse me :silly: I do believe though Mafia would do just that Ogre...causing conflict is a big thing with mafia, don't ya think?
[AC] maelstrom;1812134 said:
Well as far as I can see I could just as easy start calling out people for not putting out votes and for posting up useless no content posts and even for saying that my vote makes DD look innocent. For a start there are two mafia tonight and I don't know how many players so statistically you just think about it.
Voting is a good thing...with reason, just throwing a name out for the sake of doing it, not so much

[AC] maelstrom;1812444 said:
This is a good point dirtydawg.



I don't think its that interesting.







You have still not answered the direct question below.



That is this question.



Nobody knows anything except two mafia each know the other is mafia and two innocents know about each other.



I'm really not getting a hard time dirtydawg at all dirtydawg. You should answer your question you were asked though as it was asked directly of you and you have posted since.

My whole thing for this quote is the fact you point out to Dawg he didn't answer a question...yet you still hadn't answered the ONE question EVERY player asked you???

[AC] maelstrom;1812617 said:
Whatever cjtbares. The fact is that my vote had no ingredients of scummy at all and if anyone doesn't realise that then that's fine. You show me what info was available prior to my vote and then talk to me.
How did it not have "ingredients of scummy? It was flat out scummy.
[AC] maelstrom;1812635 said:
Gunslinger it is no way a fair interpretation of that quoted post to say that it means me saying "I have information on Dangerdoll" I mean please.

Otherwise what are you asking me to explain ? That everyone has to vote for somebody each night and on night one there are only two mafia so go figure ? I don't know how to explain that. Any more than that.
More BS stuff....yep everyone has to vote, so from the way I'm reading your posts and "reasons" we should all just vote a name just because and thats it, just throw a name out there...cause well we have to vote right?
[AC] maelstrom;1812672 said:
Read my posts. Make of them what you will I can be as stubborn as the next person. You try and find one where the vote is explained in any real way at all and then if you can't find that you have a think about it. I'm not reading the game for you.

I did read your posts, and I did make of them what I will, yep I know you retracted your vote on DD (again no explaination) but whatever right.

I have a question that no one else seemed to notice, I can't quote it cause it is a quote in a quote, but go back to post 222 (it was made by Mael)..in the quote he shows it says "originally posted by Ice"? Does it say that on anyone elses???? When I click the arrow to go to the original post it takes me to the rules, I don't get it???

Anyway for obvious scummy play, never actually answering the one question asked of him by every player..just dancing around it while calling others out for not answering questions. I vote to lynch Maelstrom
 
Votes Day 1




DD-0- Mael (112)


Ogre-1- JL(173)


Mael-3- Gun(202)Lucky(207)LG(257)


Noodles-1- Ogre(240)


Dawg-1- Cnote(249)




22.5 hours till night fall
 
G I saw that too, which was why I had to copy paste part of it into my own quote box...weird.
 
Votes Day 1




DD-0- Mael (112)


Ogre-1- JL(173)


Mael-3- Gun(202)Lucky(207)LG(257)


Noodles-1- Ogre(240)


Dawg-1- Cnote(249)




22.5 hours till night fall

After catching up on the 10 plus pages sense I posted last and the vote counts...I have came to some conclusions...BTW I have been busy and not able to post much.

Here it goes....
mael seems to be defensive and not give too much reasoning besides impulse for his posts and actions...Mofia possible but I think he is protecting his innocence more than anything...not a threat IMO.

dawg has some good points as to cnote being suspicious to me this post says you are Mafia
[AC] C-note;1812424 said:
Saying that something smells like someone starting a train shows that you've got fairly strong feelings about maelstrom possibly being mafia...heck, you even lean DD innocent. For some reason, though, you don't really ever mention your thoughts on maelstrom.



In this post, you kind of express mild agreement with maelstrom that DD always seems guilty, but go onto say that maelstrom's vote kind of inspires you to move DD up a notch toward innocent. You never come right out and call maelstrom's move scummy, though, but apparently you really think it is.

In this game, the main idea is to lynch your best suspects so it seems odd that you'd take the time to lean DD innocent in your post, but not try to go after maelstrom at all. This looks like a possible attempt to blend; cuddling up to DD while not really pointing that strong of a finger at maelstrom...leaving it for others to lead that charge.



Now here's a follow-up post explaining how early votes are good for getting people talking, and hoping something good comes from maelstrom's early vote. You still don't look to be taking much of a stand on maelstrom here. Odd since you find mael's actions scummy enough to move DD up on the innocent scale.

Makes me move you down a little toward mafia, Dawg.
Noodles, well is just noodles last game I played with her had about the same gravity...I would suspect Innocent...

DangerDoll is innocent as they come.

Gunslinger I am unsure of but my GUESS would be Mafia [AC] players are suspicious in a way.
LG hasn't posted a whole lot, Would guess innocent.

the rest I wont comment on as I forgot about what a lot of their posts were about.
That is my take and 2 cents on things.


 
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