Mafia 46: In the Dark

[[AC] C-note]

Go back and read everyone's posts for the first several pages...mostly a bunch of crap posts. Typical for day 1. Why do you love Mael so much C-note? Why do you feel obligated to stick up for him? Just wondering.

My suspicion of you has nothing to do with how I feel about maelstrom. Maelstrom may be scum for all I know. Since you asked, though, I don't find maelstrom's early unsubstantiated vote for DD as necessarily being scummy. Especially enough to lean DD innocent.

The main reason that voting for someone without giving a reason can be viewed as a scumtell, is that it can sometimes be opportunistic. Some scum (usually newer players) see an opportunity to jump on an already-moving train and then just follow other players, without giving a reason. In mael's case, though, they were the first on DD. That doesn't look very opportunistic to me.

You claim that it smelled like mael was trying to start a train on DD. How? Who do you think was going to jump on after mael's vote, especially with no reason given? It's really weird that you would lean DD innocent based on maelstrom's seemingly random vote.

Not saying that I believe maelstrom is innocent (or mafia, either), just that the unsubstantiated vote for DD doesn't tell me anything about mael. It's a nulltell, and not a scumtell.

 

[[AC] C-note]

dawg has some good points as to cnote being suspicious to me this post says you are Mafia

Saying that something smells like someone starting a train shows that you've got fairly strong feelings about maelstrom possibly being mafia...heck, you even lean DD innocent. For some reason, though, you don't really ever mention your thoughts on maelstrom.



In this post, you kind of express mild agreement with maelstrom that DD always seems guilty, but go onto say that maelstrom's vote kind of inspires you to move DD up a notch toward innocent. You never come right out and call maelstrom's move scummy, though, but apparently you really think it is.

In this game, the main idea is to lynch your best suspects so it seems odd that you'd take the time to lean DD innocent in your post, but not try to go after maelstrom at all. This looks like a possible attempt to blend; cuddling up to DD while not really pointing that strong of a finger at maelstrom...leaving it for others to lead that charge.



Now here's a follow-up post explaining how early votes are good for getting people talking, and hoping something good comes from maelstrom's early vote. You still don't look to be taking much of a stand on maelstrom here. Odd since you find mael's actions scummy enough to move DD up on the innocent scale.

Makes me move you down a little toward mafia, Dawg.

Good to see you, MC. If you could do me a favor and let me know which points Dawg has made, and what you find suspicious in the post of mine that you quoted.

I just made a post about players appearing opportunistic, and you appear out of nowhere to issue a simple agreement with Dawg, and then make a general blanket statement that a post screams 'Mafia' to you. How so?

 

[mostlycichlids]

Now here's a follow-up post explaining how early votes are good for getting people talking, and hoping something good comes from maelstrom's early vote. You still don't look to be taking much of a stand on maelstrom here. Odd since you find mael's actions scummy enough to move DD up on the innocent scale.

Makes me move you down a little toward mafia, Dawg.

Seems like you are beating a dead horse on this alone almost like keeping yourself out of the spotlight....with you moving dawg down on the scale accusing him of mafia on basically nothing. I am not protecting him as he could be mafia but I would lean more towards you just for the fact of pointing it out.

 

[[AC] Gunslinger]

Mc it's hard to read the end of your post but could you explain why you would guess at me being mafia...I also thought I read something about [AC] players being suspicious. Is that why or do you have other reasons. I'm also concerned with the fact that you have DD as innocent on DAY ONE. How?

 

[mostlycichlids]

From Mael's list...



I'm concerned why me using an alias has such a large impact on how you view my innocence/guilt. You also say that if I wasn't using an alias I would be leaning innocent towards you...but you say that I still am...you are contradicting yourself...odd and a little bit scummy...



"chat" doesn't always equal AC chat DD, I meant it as a blanket term for PM, AIM, MSN messaging, forums, etc...I am intrigued at how you automatically assumed I was talking about AC chat...

Gunslinger this makes me think you might be Mafia and DD might be innocent...

 

[mostlycichlids]

Oh and it may be day one but game has been on for three days....

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

Ok, i know this was talked and talked about but why???

Oh come on G. Does anyone still think that this question of why I voted for Dangerdoll is live ? Ok so you've basically contributed nothing to the game so far but bringing this one up - sheesh.

Voting is a good thing...with reason, just throwing a name out for the sake of doing it, not so much

Beg to differ depending on when. You either get it or you don't.

My whole thing for this quote is the fact you point out to Dawg he didn't answer a question...yet you still hadn't answered the ONE question EVERY player asked you???

Yeah yeah yeah. I didn't answer the question yawn read the thread G.

How did it not have "ingredients of scummy? It was flat out scummy.

No it was not. Thankfully at least some other players have thought about it a little.

More BS stuff....yep everyone has to vote, so from the way I'm reading your posts and "reasons" we should all just vote a name just because and thats it, just throw a name out there...cause well we have to vote right?

If you were in fact reading my posts you could not have taken this conclusion from them. I don't suppose you bothered to read the list I posted of where I was on each player earlier in the day.

I have a question that no one else seemed to notice, I can't quote it cause it is a quote in a quote, but go back to post 222 (it was made by Mael)..in the quote he shows it says "originally posted by Ice"? Does it say that on anyone elses???? When I click the arrow to go to the original post it takes me to the rules, I don't get it???

I quoted the start up post by Ice to get a list of players for my list (where is anyone elses list). It was posted by Ice. So it said "originally posted by Ice". You could have worked that out by the way it said "originally posted by Ice" and the way when you clicked it it brought you back to the rules. Do you get it. ???

Anyway for obvious scummy play, never actually answering the one question asked of him by every player..just dancing around it while calling others out for not answering questions. I vote to lynch Maelstrom

Obvious scummy play - nonsense. My vote was not scummy. Never actually answering the one question - nonsense. Read the thread. Dancing around it - you are kidding me right I mean lol I danced around nothing. Just said I wasn't giving a reason for voting Dangerdoll. That is not avoiding anything. Calling others out for not answering questions - also nonsense. Dirtydawg was slow to say whether he thought my vote was scummy. That's all. That is a long way off calling anybody out never made "others

Anyway, that's three votes on me. In terms of trying to help the town, as far as I'm concerned I've put more effort in than anyone and I'm comfortable taking the heat for that. Think about it.

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

G I saw that too, which was why I had to copy paste part of it into my own quote box...weird.

Check my reply to Lady G. The clue is that the quote says "originally posted by Ice" and then when you click it to go back to the original post it takes you to a post made by Ice. Wierd. Sheesh.

 

[[AC] C-note]

Seems like you are beating a dead horse on this alone almost like keeping yourself out of the spotlight....with you moving dawg down on the scale accusing him of mafia on basically nothing. I am not protecting him as he could be mafia but I would lean more towards you just for the fact of pointing it out.

So according to you, I'm beating a dead horse to keep myself out of the spotlight? Isn't it my going after Dawg actually putting a light on me?


Now here you said that Dawg made some good points about me being suspicious. As I asked before, WHICH points?

dawg has some good points as to cnote being suspicious to me this post says you are Mafia

Perhaps I missed something, but as far as Dawg thinking me suspicious, I believe that he has implied that I am defending maelstrom, that maelstrom and I are are communicating with each other, and that we are working together to go after him. If those are Dawg's points, and you say that Dawg's points about me are good ones, how come you say that you believe maelstrom is innocent?

mael seems to be defensive and not give too much reasoning besides impulse for his posts and actions...Mofia possible but I think he is protecting his innocence more than anything...not a threat IMO.

Seems a little inconsistent, MC. Which points of Dawg's do you agree with?

 

[Dangerdoll]

ok, one post is sticking out like a sore thumb to me....


I can't help but think that these are 2 conflicting thoughts. This early in the game, in one statement, you say Mael is playing really aggressive... which I don't see except for the vote.... As versed as I am in these games, I know that if the mafia can pull a frog out of the hat and call it a rabbit, they certainly will. Mafia counts on people to believe "mafia would never be this way or that way".... I thought you were well versed in these games too and that is why I am surprised you made this statement.

and then you go on to imply that mafia are the best at twists.... and whether mael is mafia or not, the vote means nothing..... or that's what I got from this one...

This is post 217.... Ogre, I never did see your thoughts on my finding here.... no defense, just nothing... odd for you if you ask me....
wouldn't you think you should try and explain this?