Mafia #47 "Ghost Hunters"

[Opicana]

Seriously, I do not agree with Opi's theory that all that voted on DD are considered innocent. That is the perfect way for the mafia to hide. I am sure that at least one of the votes on her was an evil...

I repeat, I in no way gave them innocence. They are all still suspects in my book...The only person I have declared innocent (for now) is you, Noods.

I just threw them off my immediate suspects list. However, I completely agree with the theory that one of them is an evil who was just following the crowd, that makes sense. I just don't think any of the people who really pushed for DD are evil....someone who saw that it would be easy to tack on a vote and follow along since it looked like DD was doomed anyway, is acceptable, imo.

 

[luckydud13]

I take offense to that! Sheesh! One little melt down and your "labeled for life"

Seriously, I do not agree with Opi's theory that all that voted on DD are considered innocent. That is the perfect way for the mafia to hide. I am sure that at least one of the votes on her was an evil...

I am also really starting to feel uncomfortable about Fire. That late last minute vote on DD along with the fact that even tho on maternity leave is still pretty quiet...definitely someone worth watching.
I still am not feeling cozy about Opi or Lucky..which one tops the list? Not sure yet, altho Opi throwing all the DD voters as Innocents sends up a big red flag; perfect way to hide a team mate.

Jpappy, altho I have small suspicions about you I feel you are leaning more innocent. I know DD was intent on keeping her vote on you but being night one, she would not have had any "info" to seal her suspicions.

more after i read some more......

Thank you thats what I was trying to get at.

 

[luckydud13]

I don't think the "mafia" would want to take out DD (see my previous argument)....so I am eliminating Rickets, John, Fire and Ice from my pool of suspects.
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I beg to differ

 

[luckydud13]

I don't think the "mafia" would want to take out DD (see my previous argument)....so I am eliminating Rickets, John, Fire and Ice from my pool of suspects.

I repeat, I in no way gave them innocence. They are all still suspects in my book...The only person I have declared innocent (for now) is you, Noods.

Sorry this is what I tried to do last post. Opi you say that you din't give them innocents, but your own posts say otherwise.

 

[jpappy789]

I take offense to that! Sheesh! One little melt down and your "labeled for life"

Seriously, I do not agree with Opi's theory that all that voted on DD are considered innocent. That is the perfect way for the mafia to hide. I am sure that at least one of the votes on her was an evil...

I am also really starting to feel uncomfortable about Fire. That late last minute vote on DD along with the fact that even tho on maternity leave is still pretty quiet...definitely someone worth watching.
I still am not feeling cozy about Opi or Lucky..which one tops the list? Not sure yet, altho Opi throwing all the DD voters as Innocents sends up a big red flag; perfect way to hide a team mate.

Jpappy, altho I have small suspicions about you I feel you are leaning more innocent. I know DD was intent on keeping her vote on you but being night one, she would not have had any "info" to seal her suspicions.

more after i read some more......

Sorry Noods, didn't mean for it to be personal. Just that you always seem to be at the top of someone's suspect list. Sort of like with DD, I tend to find you more suspicious at the beginning of the game as well. Just a habit maybe.

I see no reason for a mafia player to jump on DD unless it was fire. The middle votes happened too quickly and those people (minus maybe Rickets) were toying with the idea to vote DD beforehand, and JL's first vote doesn't seem to be scummy to me. Fire came in, voted, then didn't say much. Almost like she was looking for the easy vote without giving much thought into it. Definitely an interesting move. Also, her calling me innocent that quickly troubles me. Maybe she thought I was going to be the leading vote getter and wanted her "thoughts" to be there afterward?

Well, I saw what I thought was a Rich/Lucky team...so since there were only 2 evils on night one...I dropped Noods of the list. Figuring the third, new bad guy (or gal) is a complete toss up...since they would not have been collaborating with the folks on night one....so it could be Noods or anyone else.

However, I think it was Rickets who pointed out that if Lucky and Rich WERE both evil (or any other two people for that matter)...they wouldn't have voted for the same person....they'd want to spread out the vote more. I am in complete agreement with that...so my current thought is.

Initial Evils: Rich & ????
New Recruit: Lucky

Which explains the Lucky/Rich team.

I have no ideas for who ???? is...but I doubt its Noods, since she was the only other person to vote for JL...and as I said above, I agree the "mafia" would not have voted for the same person.

That's as far as I've gotten, lol.

Ok, but would Rich pick Lucky? If I remember correctly you brought it up prior to nightfall (?) and I don't think the murderer would choose someone that another player thought they had connections to.

Sorry this is what I tried to do last post. Opi you say that you din't give them innocents, but your own posts say otherwise.

Saying someone isn't a top suspect and calling them innocent are too different things. You're getting them confused.

 

[Opicana]

Sorry this is what I tried to do last post. Opi you say that you din't give them innocents, but your own posts say otherwise.

Well, if that's the way you see it, I can't change your mind.

To me, taking folks out of my pool of top suspects, just means I am not concerned about them at the moment, and not considering them for an immediate vote. You need to eliminate suspects in order to come to any kind of conclusions before you place a vote. To me, everyone is still a suspect until I declare them as innocent. I never once (as you can see in that quote you posted) said that these people are "innocent" or as "leaning innocent". :headshake2:

Furthermore, I have adapted my theory...as I am willing to listen to others and change, for I openly admit I do not know....(hence why these are all called theories, people). And I agree (as I have said) that it was silly to throw out all the DD votes...a follower may have been in the pack. My theory had a flaw, but I am comfortable with where it is going.

You seem a bit more confident than I. Hmmm....

 

[jpappy789]

Lucky is becoming more of a concern for me based on his recent posts. Fire is also creeping up the list. I think my suspect list may be doing a complete 180 this day cycle.

 

[Opicana]

Ok, but would Rich pick Lucky? If I remember correctly you brought it up prior to nightfall (?) and I don't think the murderer would choose someone that another player thought they had connections to.

As far as I know (though I can be forgetful), I only mentioned the pairing after nightfall. Because I didn't think of it til after I went back and analyzed everything from today.

Hmmm....was Lucky on anyone's top suspect list before nightfall? Did he get a vote? Did anyone else mention connections between him & Rich?

 

[noodles62]

I repeat, I in no way gave them innocence. They are all still suspects in my book...The only person I have declared innocent (for now) is you, Noods.

I just threw them off my immediate suspects list. However, I completely agree with the theory that one of them is an evil who was just following the crowd, that makes sense. I just don't think any of the people who really pushed for DD are evil....someone who saw that it would be easy to tack on a vote and follow along since it looked like DD was doomed anyway, is acceptable, imo.

Interesting...and why am I suddenly on your "good" list and "declared innocent"!? Is this some twisted way to get others to think we are a team and you are protecting me, thus getting me to the forefront of everyones attention? Trust me, I do not need any assistance in getting votes. I seem to get plenty every game.

 

[luckydud13]

My vote is not set in stone, but at this point I feel it is the best from what I have deciphered.